Blood work 8 months post cycle

[Dillon_21]

guys, I was on a very very long cycle and came off a month or two prior to November 2014.
Since then I had done 1 small cycle and have been off for the last 8months. I will post the "normal" range next to each result in parenthesis.
Note there may be some minor difference in the reference range from each test

First blood test taken 2014 1-2 months after long cycle
Testosterone= 7.1 nmol/L (6.0 - 27.0)
Fsh serum = 1.1 iu/L (1.0 - 8.0)
Estradial = 73 pmol/L (0 - 172)
Progesterone = 2.4 nmol/L ( 0.3 - 2.7)
Prolactin = 7.6 ug/l ( 2.6 - 13.1)
Ferritin = 224 ug/L (25 - 300)
B12= 297 pmol/L (133)
tsh = 1.82 miu/l ( 0.30 - 5.60)

New bloodwork taken 8 months post cycle
Testosterone = 16.7nmol/L (8.4 - 28.8)
Ferritin = 490 ug/l (22 - 275)
Fsh = 1.6 iu/L (1.0 - 8.0)
Lh = 2.9 iu/L ( 1.0 - 7.0)
Progesterone = 1.0 ( 1.7)
Estradial = 95 pmol/L (162)
Prolactin = 8.5 ug/L (4.0 - 19.0)

I'm experiencing symptoms of low testosterone. My doctor said both of the tests are (within normal ranges) so he thinks I'm fine. How ever I don't accept this because he's not distinguishing between the results and age groups. So in his mind he thinks that a 70 year old should have the same vitality as a 24 year old... I've been reffered to and endo.

 

[Dillon_21]

Bump

 

[Just Fish]

guys, I was on a very very long cycle and came off a month or two prior to November 2014.
Since then I had done 1 small cycle and have been off for the last 8months. I will post the "normal" range next to each result in parenthesis.
Note there may be some minor difference in the reference range from each test

First blood test taken 2014 1-2 months after long cycle
Testosterone= 7.1 nmol/L (6.0 - 27.0)
Fsh serum = 1.1 iu/L (1.0 - 8.0)
Estradial = 73 pmol/L (0 - 172)
Progesterone = 2.4 nmol/L ( 0.3 - 2.7)
Prolactin = 7.6 ug/l ( 2.6 - 13.1)
Ferritin = 224 ug/L (25 - 300)
B12= 297 pmol/L (133)
tsh = 1.82 miu/l ( 0.30 - 5.60)

New bloodwork taken 8 months post cycle
Testosterone = 16.7nmol/L (8.4 - 28.8)
Ferritin = 490 ug/l (22 - 275)
Fsh = 1.6 iu/L (1.0 - 8.0)
Lh = 2.9 iu/L ( 1.0 - 7.0)
Progesterone = 1.0 ( 1.7)
Estradial = 95 pmol/L (162)
Prolactin = 8.5 ug/L (4.0 - 19.0)

I'm experiencing symptoms of low testosterone. My doctor said both of the tests are (within normal ranges) so he thinks I'm fine. How ever I don't accept this because he's not distinguishing between the results and age groups. So in his mind he thinks that a 70 year old should have the same vitality as a 24 year old... I've been reffered to and endo.

According to your lab ranges you are in the middle of the range. I would be concerned with your FSH and LH

 

[jay89]

Your ferritin is high you should go donate some blood.

 

[Docd187123]

guys, I was on a very very long cycle and came off a month or two prior to November 2014.
Since then I had done 1 small cycle and have been off for the last 8months. I will post the "normal" range next to each result in parenthesis.
Note there may be some minor difference in the reference range from each test

First blood test taken 2014 1-2 months after long cycle
Testosterone= 7.1 nmol/L (6.0 - 27.0)
Fsh serum = 1.1 iu/L (1.0 - 8.0)
Estradial = 73 pmol/L (0 - 172)
Progesterone = 2.4 nmol/L ( 0.3 - 2.7)
Prolactin = 7.6 ug/l ( 2.6 - 13.1)
Ferritin = 224 ug/L (25 - 300)
B12= 297 pmol/L (133)
tsh = 1.82 miu/l ( 0.30 - 5.60)

New bloodwork taken 8 months post cycle
Testosterone = 16.7nmol/L (8.4 - 28.8)
Ferritin = 490 ug/l (22 - 275)
Fsh = 1.6 iu/L (1.0 - 8.0)
Lh = 2.9 iu/L ( 1.0 - 7.0)
Progesterone = 1.0 ( 1.7)
Estradial = 95 pmol/L (162)
Prolactin = 8.5 ug/L (4.0 - 19.0)

I'm experiencing symptoms of low testosterone. My doctor said both of the tests are (within normal ranges) so he thinks I'm fine. How ever I don't accept this because he's not distinguishing between the results and age groups. So in his mind he thinks that a 70 year old should have the same vitality as a 24 year old... I've been reffered to and endo.

You're experiencing symptoms that aren't from low testosterone bc you don't have it. Whether or not you accept the results is a completely different story.

 

[Raven101]

Far too many guys do high level T dosages during a cycle and when their levels finally come back ( if they are lucky) they complain they dont feel good enough. Of course you will never feel as good as you did on a steroid cycle, thats an articial feeling.
Your levels are fine. If you arent happy then do another steroid cycle and harm your body.

 

[Dillon_21]

According to your lab ranges you are in the middle of the range. I would be concerned with your FSH and LH

Comparable to other people my age that is low in my opinion. Looking at it broadly it is in the middle range I agree. The good doctor doesn't see age when looking at the results.
If my Lh is low why is the test in the normal range?

 

[Dillon_21]

Your ferritin is high you should go donate some blood.

I plan to lol. Funny thing is the doctor didn't say anything to me about it. You ever get a doc that you know is straight garbage? My problem.

 

[Dillon_21]

You're experiencing symptoms that aren't from low testosterone bc you don't have it. Whether or not you accept the results is a completely different story.

Like I said these ranges listed don't see age. To reliably state it's normal you'd have to look at people in the same age group. Not broadly like it is. I've done my reading and it's not terribly low but it's deffinetly not where it should be for someone my age and there's obvious reasons for that.

 

[Just Fish]

Comparable to other people my age that is low in my opinion. Looking at it broadly it is in the middle range I agree. The good doctor doesn't see age when looking at the results.
If my Lh is low why is the test in the normal range?

Your opinion and the facts are 2 different things obviously. That range is for your age group. You are obviously still not fully recovered. Your symptoms are not from low t as others have stated. Stay away from steroids because you can't handle them. Go get mental help before you cause yourself more problems

 

[Just Fish]

Like I said these ranges listed don't see age. To reliably state it's normal you'd have to look at people in the same age group. Not broadly like it is. I've done my reading and it's not terribly low but it's deffinetly not where it should be for someone my age and there's obvious reasons for that.

Because you are not fully recovered. See my above post

 

[Dillon_21]

Far too many guys do high level T dosages during a cycle and when their levels finally come back ( if they are lucky) they complain they dont feel good enough. Of course you will never feel as good as you did on a steroid cycle, thats an articial feeling.
Your levels are fine. If you arent happy then do another steroid cycle and harm your body.

I know what symptoms of low test feel like. Low motivation, sex drive, poor mood etc are big indicators. And why is the general consesus that a it's normal for a 24 year old to have the same levels as someone double or more his age?

 

[Dillon_21]

Your opinion and the facts are 2 different things obviously. That range is for your age group. You are obviously still not fully recovered. Your symptoms are not from low t as others have stated. Stay away from steroids because you can't handle them. Go get mental help before you cause yourself more problems

I've literally stated its NOT comparable to my age group. And obviously I'm not fully recovered THATS THE ISSUE HERE! "Not recovered" meaning not where I should be.
That's what I'm trying to relay to the doctor.

And how can I "not handle steroids?" Lol I'd love to here this. Plenty of people that use end up in a situation where trt is a more appealing route to take then staying in a permanent state of recovery. Can those people not handle steroids either ?

 

[Just Fish]

I know what symptoms of low test feel like. Low motivation, sex drive, poor mood etc are big indicators. And why is the general consesus that a it's normal for a 24 year old to have the same levels as someone double or more his age?

You know what the symptoms are because your dumb ass read it somewhere and now it is in your head. Who the fuck told you that was the consensus anywhere? Your testosterone levels are fucking fine and your not even fully fucking recovered yet. There is nothing wrong with your testosterone levels but you are having delusions that you have the testosterone levels of someone double your age. Like I said stay away from steroids. If you had done some research you would have known that you are too fucking young to be doing that shit anyway. Like I said go get mental help before you end up causing yourself more fucking problems. Or don't listen and keep fucking yourself up like a godam clown just don't post the fucking stupidity here when you do.

 

[Docd187123]

Like I said these ranges listed don't see age. To reliably state it's normal you'd have to look at people in the same age group. Not broadly like it is. I've done my reading and it's not terribly low but it's deffinetly not where it should be for someone my age and there's obvious reasons for that.

No you don't have to look at people in the same age group. You don't understand how the lab ranges were made and how the statistics are used. You've been duped by low T clinic propaganda

 

[Just Fish]

I've literally stated its NOT comparable to my age group. And obviously I'm not fully recovered THATS THE ISSUE HERE! "Not recovered" meaning not where I should be.
That's what I'm trying to relay to the doctor.

And how can I "not handle steroids?" Lol I'd love to here this. Plenty of people that use end up in a situation where trt is a more appealing route to take then staying in a permanent state of recovery. Can those people not handle steroids either ?

Because you are here asking stupid fucking questions and whining like a bitch. If you could handle steroids I wouldn't be wasting my time with your bullshit

 

[Docd187123]

I know what symptoms of low test feel like. Low motivation, sex drive, poor mood etc are big indicators. And why is the general consesus that a it's normal for a 24 year old to have the same levels as someone double or more his age?

Bc a healthy level is a healthy level regardless of age. Just bc you are young does not mean you're supposed to have higher levels than an older man. Stop reading whatever it is that you're reading and start reading real, UNBIASED sources.

 

[Dillon_21]

You know what the symptoms are because your dumb ass read it somewhere and now it is in your head. Who the fuck told you that was the consensus anywhere? Your testosterone levels are fucking fine and your not even fully fucking recovered yet. There is nothing wrong with your testosterone levels but you are having delusions that you have the testosterone levels of someone double your age. Like I said stay away from steroids. If you had done some research you would have known that you are too fucking young to be doing that shit anyway. Like I said go get mental help before you end up causing yourself more fucking problems. Or don't listen and keep fucking yourself up like a godam clown just don't post the fucking stupidity here when you do.

Yeah and are you saying the information you can "read" about low testosterone is wrong? Does low testosterone not cause low sex drive,poor mood and low motivation? Do people not quote medical articles on this forum ? Lmfao get a grip your losing it here...Im correlating how I feel with the levels I'm seeing on the bloodwork how does that make me a dumbass? Okay smart guy what's the range for my age group? I'd love to here your response because I've done my research.

 

[Dillon_21]

Bc a healthy level is a healthy level regardless of age. Just bc you are young does not mean you're supposed to have higher levels than an older man. Stop reading whatever it is that you're reading and start reading real, UNBIASED sources.

That's a pretty ridiculous statement.
Do you know anything about percentiles ? A simple google search would refute what you've said. Go look at charts bring anyone you would like and tell me what age levels I fall closest too under the chart.

 

[Just Fish]

Yeah and are you saying the information you can "read" about low testosterone is wrong? Does low testosterone not cause low sex drive,poor mood and low motivation? Do people not quote medical articles on this forum ? Lmfao get a grip your losing it here...Im correlating how I feel with the levels I'm seeing on the bloodwork how does that make me a dumbass? Okay smart guy what's the range for my age group? I'd love to here your response because I've done my research.

Those ranges are for someone your age dumb fuck why the fuck do you think they are there. Low testosterone does cause all of those problems and so does many other things. You are experiencing physical symptoms as a result of your delusions of low testosterone. Your testosterone levels are fine for any age. What the fuck do you not understand? It is written right in your godam lab results. But since you are a fucking delusional moron you think that you have low t. YOUR TESTOSTERONE LEVELS ARE FINE FOR ANY AGE AND YOU ARE HAVING FUCKING DELUSIONS THAT YOU HAVE LOW T. Go get some godam mental help and take your fucking stupidity somewhere else