Blood work 8 months post cycle

In what world does an old man have better vitality as a young guy less then half his age without there being and issue with the young guy or the older guy using hormones please show me one case
 
That's a pretty ridiculous statement.
Do you know anything about percentiles ? A simple google search would refute what you've said. Go look at charts bring anyone you would like and tell me what age levels I fall closest too under the chart.
You are arguing with one of the most knowledgeable members on this subject. This alone proves how utterly fucking stupid you are. You should have been beaten as a child and you wouldn't have these fucking problems
 
Those ranges are for someone your age dumb fuck why the fuck do you think they are there. Low testosterone does cause all of those problems and so does many other things. You are experiencing physical symptoms as a result of your delusions of low testosterone. Your testosterone levels are fine for any age. What the fuck do you not understand? It is written right in your godam lab results. But since you are a fucking delusional moron you think that you have low t. YOUR TESTOSTERONE LEVELS ARE FINE FOR ANY AGE AND YOU ARE HAVING FUCKING DELUSIONS THAT YOU HAVE LOW T. Go get some godam mental help and take your fucking stupidity somewhere else

Do you know how to read? It's stated CLEARLY the ranges DO NOT REPRESENT ANY AGE GROUP. That range is from a baby to what could be a 107 year old man. How did you become a well known member on this board and yet you've not made one intelligent response to me .
 
In what world does an old man have better vitality as a young guy less then half his age without there being and issue with the young guy or the older guy using hormones please show me one case
In the world you have created by taking steroids at too young of an age. Enjoy all the problems you have created because you are a complete fucking moron that thinks he knows it all. I am going to fuck the shit out of your girl after she leaves your limp dicked pussy ass
 
Do you know how to read? It's stated CLEARLY the ranges DO NOT REPRESENT ANY AGE GROUP. That range is from a baby to what could be a 107 year old man. How did you become a well known member on this board and yet you've not made one intelligent response to me .
You are a fucking clown. I'm going to destroy your girlfriend's asshole just because I had to deal with your fucking stupidity.
 
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In the world you have created by taking steroids at too young of an age. Enjoy all the problems you have created because you are a complete fucking moron that thinks he knows it all. I am going to fuck the shit out of your girl after she leaves your limp dicked pussy ass

Well why don't you apply that knowledge to building atleast a somewhat respectable physique. Ive looked better then that naturally your stats are a joke buddy. You're some seriously knowledgable guy right ? Where's the proof because it deffinetly doesn't show in your piss poor physique. I tried to be respectful but damn how's the little guy going to bitch and talk shit like he knows so much yet looks like he's only ever dabbled in creatine. Get real buddy I didn't ask you to comment on this if you didn't have anything decent to say why waste my time.
 
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Well why don't you apply that knowledge to building atleast a somewhat respectable physique. Ive looked better then that naturally your stats are a joke buddy. You're some seriously knowledgable guy right ? Where's the proof because it deffinetly doesn't show in your piss poor physique. I tried to be respectful but damn how's the little guy going to bitch and talk shit like he knows so much yet looks like he's only ever dabbled in creatine. Get real buddy I didn't ask you to comment on this if you didn't have anything decent to say why waste my time.
Coming from the little bitch with a limp dick and a motorcycle as an avi. There's an obvious reason for that fuckboy
 
You are a fucking clown. I'm going to destroy your girlfriend's asshole just because I had to deal with your fucking stupidity.
Sorry but I don't think my girls into pow survivors get a fucking meal in you buddy. Weak ass physique I should be giving your ass advice. Why have you even touched juice? You're wasting your money you look like shit I could starve myself and that's how I'd attempt to try to attain your body type. I literally was trying to gather opinions and you came in with your hating ass
 
The fact that there's guys like you who are "well known and claim to be knowledgeable" on this forum disrespects meso and the decent actually respected non hating members.
 
Sorry but I don't think my girls into pow survivors get a fucking meal in you buddy. Weak ass physique I should be giving your ass advice. Why have you even touched juice? You're wasting your money you look like shit I could starve myself and that's how I'd attempt to try to attain your body type. I literally was trying to gather opinions and you came in with your hating ass
You are a delusional sniveling little bitch that expects to be given everything, including what he wants to here. I will enjoy your girl while her orfices hold out. Then you can have her back. You'll be able to get your limp dick in there by the time I'm done with it
 
You are a delusional sniveling little bitch that expects to be given everything, including what he wants to here. I will enjoy your girl while her orfices hold out. Then you can have her back. You'll be able to get your limp dick in there by the time I'm done with it

I expect a level of decency. If you can't follow that basic guildline and commit then don't fucking comment. Nobody wants to hear you bitch moan and whine and try to scape goat people because your mad inside yourself about your own shit. I was looking for replies that consisted of a conversation where I could actually learn or just to talk about the subject. Not your bullshit grow the fuck up and work on your bullshit physique because it deffinetly doesn't get any worse that a skinny little fucking hater trying to tell you he's super knowledgeable. You wanna convince people ? Show them you know a lot by applying it in your own life
 
I expect a level of decency. If you can't follow that basic guildline and commit then don't fucking comment. Nobody wants to hear you bitch moan and whine and try to scape goat people because your mad inside yourself about your own shit. I was looking for replies that consisted of a conversation where I could actually learn or just to talk about the subject. Not your bullshit grow the fuck up and work on your bullshit physique because it deffinetly doesn't get any worse that a skinny little fucking hater trying to tell you he's super knowledgeable. You wanna convince people ? Show them you know a lot by applying it in your own life
I'm telling your little pusst ass the truth and what you need to do. It's not my problem that your bitch ass doesn't like the answers, get the fuck out if you don't like it you little pussy. Nobody told your bitch ass to stay here
 
According to your lab ranges you are in the middle of the range. I would be concerned with your FSH and LH
by your thinking "according to the lab ranges" I'm in the "normal" range for both Lh and fsh so why would you be concerned with those numbers? You say the test is normal because it's in the range but so is the Lh and fsh. You contradict yourself and refute your own logic.
 
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That's a pretty ridiculous statement.
Do you know anything about percentiles ? A simple google search would refute what you've said. Go look at charts bring anyone you would like and tell me what age levels I fall closest too under the chart.

Open your eyes and think critically. This ain't that hard. Just bc you are young does not mean your levels will be higher than older men. It simply means you'll have the highest levels of YOUR own individual life at this point and they'll begin to decline around 30yo or so. You don't even know how reference ranges are determined so for you to call my statement ridiculous is like you sucking a dick and claiming you're not gay....
 
In what world does an old man have better vitality as a young guy less then half his age without there being and issue with the young guy or the older guy using hormones please show me one case

Critical thinking isn't your strong suit. Got it. Let's see if you can connect the dots....

"Researchers used the results from both measurements to generate harmonized values, which were in turn used to derive standardized, age-specific reference ranges overall. The harmonized normal range for testosterone in a non-obese population of European and American Men, 19-39 years, is 264-916 ng/dL."

I got my hormones tested at 29yo and had levels of 562. A friend on another board is in his late 50s with levels of 789. Both of us are healthy and have no medical issues.

I feel like I'm arguing with a rock but at least the rock would shut up and listen. :rolleyes:
 
by your thinking "according to the lab ranges" I'm in the "normal" range for both Lh and fsh so why would you be concerned with those numbers? You say the test is normal because it's in the range but so is the Lh and fsh. You contradict yourself and refute your own logic.
Because your LH and FSH are actually low unlike your godam testosterone levels you stupid fucking delusional mother fucker. If you weren't such a pathetic fucking moron you would have gotten your free testosterone levels checked because those are the only testosterone levels that even fucking matter. But your clown ass did your research smfh. That's why your walking around with a dead limp dick because you were to fucking stupid to listen to advice and do your research
 
Because your LH and FSH are actually low unlike your godam testosterone levels you stupid fucking delusional mother fucker. If you weren't such a pathetic fucking moron you would have gotten your free testosterone levels checked because those are the only testosterone levels that even fucking matter. But your clown ass did your research smfh. That's why your walking around with a dead limp dick because you were to fucking stupid to listen to advice and do your research

LH and FSH are not necessarily low. They are enough to make serum levels of 487ng/dL for test which is plenty for a healthy YOUNG male.

Also free test is a garbage panel in many cases. Total test is much more important to have done.
 
Because your LH and FSH are actually low unlike your godam testosterone levels you stupid fucking delusional mother fucker. If you weren't such a pathetic fucking moron you would have gotten your free testosterone levels checked because those are the only testosterone levels that even fucking matter. But your clown ass did your research smfh. That's why your walking around with a dead limp dick because you were to fucking stupid to listen to advice and do your research
LH and FSH are not necessarily low. They are enough to make serum levels of 487ng/dL for test which is plenty for a healthy YOUNG male.

Also free test is a garbage panel in many cases. Total test is much more important to have done.

You don't get to have it both ways. You claim my test is fine because the test says so because it's in the "normal range"
Well Lh and fsh are in the "normal range"
That makes what your saying a contradiction. Id agree and I'd say Lh and fsh are low. Just because it's in the "range" doesn't mean it's not low imo. Which is the point I'm trying to make for the test level. Why do you keep talking about my dick? I never once claimed to have a "limp dick" I stated my sex drive isn't where I'd like it to be. I function perfectly fine. I've also done plenty of research but keep hating when you're in no position to talk shit when you look like that.

Doc if the range goes from let's say 1-10 and age isn't factored in how could someone that's young be on the bottom of the scale and that be optimal ? I am going back to get free test done how come you think it's a garbage test?
 
Because your LH and FSH are actually low unlike your godam testosterone levels you stupid fucking delusional mother fucker. If you weren't such a pathetic fucking moron you would have gotten your free testosterone levels checked because those are the only testosterone levels that even fucking matter. But your clown ass did your research smfh. That's why your walking around with a dead limp dick because you were to fucking stupid to listen to advice and do your research
And how could Lh be low and test be "normal" ?
 
You don't get to have it both ways. You claim my test is fine because the test says so because it's in the "normal range"
Well Lh and fsh are in the "normal range"
That makes what your saying a contradiction. Id agree and I'd say Lh and fsh are low. Just because it's in the "range" doesn't mean it's not low imo. Which is the point I'm trying to make for the test level. Why do you keep talking about my dick? I never once claimed to have a "limp dick" I stated my sex drive isn't where I'd like it to be. I function perfectly fine. I've also done plenty of research but keep hating when you're in no position to talk shit when you look like that.

Doc if the range goes from let's say 1-10 and age isn't factored in how could someone that's young be on the bottom of the scale and that be optimal ? I am going back to get free test done how come you think it's a garbage test?
YES YOU HAVE LOW TESTOSTERONE NOW GET THE FUCK OUT AND DONT COME BACK
 
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