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Hey @GearGodess some insight perhaps???
Happycamper said:
1) I am now anxious to get off cycle and have a full hormone panel done.

2) Other than that my doc threw birth control at me that made me feel awful.
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1) Glad to hear that :)

2) BCP are no panacea to feeling good as MANY gals just can't tolerate the sides. However the majority of BCP related adverse effects can be minimized by adjusting the E-2 and PG quantities AND that takes time.
 
Dr JIM said:
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Hey @GearGodess some insight perhaps???



1) Glad to hear that :)

2) BCP are no panacea to feeling good as MANY gals just can't tolerate the sides. However the majority of BCP related adverse effects can be minimized by adjusting the E-2 and PG quantities AND that takes time.
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Hi. Sorry. I was offline the last few days.

I personally always get my doc to do bloods for me. I seem to always bounce back to normal levels no matter what I run.

I'm also one that's not on birth control when I cycle as I found for me, I don't get as good of results as if I run off bc
 
Gramps said:
Well, am I the only one feeling a bit misled for clicking here based on the title? Good for you all! (but more careful wording would be considerate of you considering where you're posting!)
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I cant lie.... i thought same thing.. i LOVE the beauty women have and LOVE to look at the female form... i thought this was one of those threads with nudes (but classy since posted by real women) :)

but im glad for this thread! Need more female members and for them to feel comfy and not alone posting! : )
 
GearGodess said:
Hi. Sorry. I was offline the last few days.

I personally always get my doc to do bloods for me. I seem to always bounce back to normal levels no matter what I run.

I'm also one that's not on birth control when I cycle as I found for me, I don't get as good of results as if I run off bc
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Since the average dude has a TT
level that is 100 fold greater than their E-2 it would seem women need to at least REVERSE their E-2:TT ratio also to significantly enhance SKM anabolism.

I know the reverse is true in transsexuals REALLY. That's to say those folk must reverse their androgen dominant hormonal ratio to become "gals".

I question however how much suppression of E-2 is needed for such a change to occur in females.

I'd also contend some E-2 in females is better than none.
 
Dr JIM said:
Since the average dude has a TT
level that is 100 fold greater than their E-2 it would seem women need to at least REVERSE their E-2:TT ratio also to significantly enhance SKM anabolism.

I know the reverse is true in transsexuals REALLY. That's to say those folk must reverse their androgen dominant hormonal ratio to become "gals".

I question however how much suppression of E-2 is needed for such a change to occur in females.

I'd also contend some E-2 in females is better than none.
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You made valid points in your posts (as always) and would almost wonder if women would actually need something to bounce back as soon as we stop our cycles. To boost recovery more even though our bodies find a way to regulate on their own pretty quickly.
For me personally, I run various lengths. anywhere between 6-30+weeks... my longest started off initially 20 weeks and involved various compounds then I have taken a very minimal break (I believe 4 weeks) and started up my cycle back up with other compounds for additional 10-15 weeks... (depends on my professional schedule and what condition I need to be in) so I had a total run of 30-35 weeks before ...the longest it's taken me to get my levels back (which I know as my period comes back with a vengeance) and that's my most accurate as my bloods have confirmed that was about 3 months after that... and I'm not one to be taking additional meds, supplements or anything to encourage it... just simply waited out.
When I do shorter runs. It takes me till my next period to regulate to normal. .. maybe I'm lucky but I haven't had any issues that concerned me or any terrible sides that needed to be corrected. Plus my doc keeps a close eye on me and is open minded. I guess that helps.

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Bmae1 said:
If us women see more of this, I'm sure we might consider sticking around a bit longer ;)
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Of course. I will share if you will. :)

Looks like a lot of the women are doing good work and making significant progress.

Many guys offer unsolicited training advice to women and I won't do that but I have 30 years of training behind me so if anyone has specific questions I will be happy to help if I can.
 
GearGodess said:
You made valid points in your posts (as always) and would almost wonder if women would actually need something to bounce back as soon as we stop our cycles. To boost recovery more even though our bodies find a way to regulate on their own pretty quickly.
For me personally, I run various lengths. anywhere between 6-30+weeks... my longest started off initially 20 weeks and involved various compounds then I have taken a very minimal break (I believe 4 weeks) and started up my cycle back up with other compounds for additional 10-15 weeks... (depends on my professional schedule and what condition I need to be in) so I had a total run of 30-35 weeks before ...the longest it's taken me to get my levels back (which I know as my period comes back with a vengeance) and that's my most accurate as my bloods have confirmed that was about 3 months after that... and I'm not one to be taking additional meds, supplements or anything to encourage it... just simply waited out.
When I do shorter runs. It takes me till my next period to regulate to normal. .. maybe I'm lucky but I haven't had any issues that concerned me or any terrible sides that needed to be corrected. Plus my doc keeps a close eye on me and is open minded. I guess that helps.

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Interesting and valid question @GearGodess but Dr @Michael Scally MD and I both agree the options are limited due to inate female hormonal physiology

The reason is relatively simplistic if you think about it, a gals "recovery" invariably mandates normalization of ESTROGEN levels and there's nothing "anabolic" about that.

So ceasing AAS would/should result in an initial TROUGH followed by a SLOW return of estrogen levels in most females
IME.

I know many OB/GYN docs and myself will start females on BCP who develop a prolonged history of menometrorrhagia or even amenorrhea (abnormal vaginal bleeding or no menses) as a means of "resetting" the HTPA and normalizing menses, for a number of conditions separate from AAS. I will generally institute BCP in females after 2 to 3 months of post-cycle amenorrhea bc the etiology is almost always the result of "anovulation" bc of LOW ESTROGEN.
(Many OB/GYNS will wait bt 3-6 months before E-2 supplementation is instituted IME)

However whether or not such therapy is effective at restoring HTPA functioning in females bc of AAS use has not been studied that I'm aware of, Doc Scally have you seen anything along these lines???
 
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I must add the OB/GYN waiting interval I mentioned earlier is primarily based upon LABS.

That's bc BONY DEMINERALIZATION may be relatively dramatic when the hormonal support is derived from the adrenal cortex, especially knowing its exclusive function is the MANDATORY production of cortisol!
 
Happycamper said:
The 'date bra' from Victoria secret. It is a pullover tho so I struggle to get in and out of it because my lats are getting too wide. I wish it had a clasp back!
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They have the best push-up bras. Speaking of which, I need a new one. The original one I have is black satin (don't know the name) but has the wires poking out at the cleavage area now, lol. It's still so pretty though, haha.

Wide lats? Fuck yeah! #fitgirlproblems
 
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