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Can't say for 100% certain, but maybe 99% certain had he gotten his blood pressure under control long ago he'd have both a good pair of kidneys and a good aorta and still be alive today. But it makes sense now why he dropped dead after his workout.
It's hard to say his cause of death was unrelated to any of the underground pharmacy experiments he did on himself or high dose steroids he took or disregarding medical advise, but it's also insensitive to the family and friends to say he killed himself with his stupidity, even though his family and friends wouldn't condone the stuff he was doing. So there's a fine line to be drawn somewhere.
It's hard to say his cause of death was unrelated to any of the underground pharmacy experiments he did on himself or high dose steroids he took or disregarding medical advise, but it's also insensitive to the family and friends to say he killed himself with his stupidity, even though his family and friends wouldn't condone the stuff he was doing. So there's a fine line to be drawn somewhere.
Jayne Scott
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Really sad TBH
barbell001
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Never really know what to believe in the Gear world I've found through the years - I've had friends die that were using low to mild test with moderate compounds. Then here is someone that was known for fairly high usage. Its all sad whatever way you look at it, sitting wondering why will never change the fact they are now gone unfortunately. Just live your life in the way that makes you happy.
I asked @Michael Scally MD about the association between anabolic steroid use and aortic dissection when IFBB pro Kris Dim had emergency surgery after he collapsed during training with aortic dissection in 2007. This is what he said:
"There is no association, link, or otherwise known between AAS and AAD. Many are quick to suggest a link between AAS and a medical condition simply by their existence in an individual. With over one million illicit AAS users matched by an equal number of licit users the link or association would be easily discoverable. This, however, does not stop the hysteria to suggest, wildly, for a connection. What is the evidence for any connection or association between AAS and AAD? Or, as the literature has possibly suggested weight lifting and thereby indirectly AAS."
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I haven't seen the autopsy report so I don't know what the coroner/pathologist said about other contributing factors, etc. So we have what Bostin Loyd's mother told Palumbo to go by. Also, Palumbo has a tendency to dismiss/minimize relevant issues.
"There is no association, link, or otherwise known between AAS and AAD. Many are quick to suggest a link between AAS and a medical condition simply by their existence in an individual. With over one million illicit AAS users matched by an equal number of licit users the link or association would be easily discoverable. This, however, does not stop the hysteria to suggest, wildly, for a connection. What is the evidence for any connection or association between AAS and AAD? Or, as the literature has possibly suggested weight lifting and thereby indirectly AAS."
Pro Bodybuilder Kris Dim's Stroke, Heart Surgery and Anabolic Steroids
It was reported on the Internet that 34-year old IFBB Pro Bodybuilder Kris Dim had a near fatal stroke or aortic dissection this month while training. He
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I haven't seen the autopsy report so I don't know what the coroner/pathologist said about other contributing factors, etc. So we have what Bostin Loyd's mother told Palumbo to go by. Also, Palumbo has a tendency to dismiss/minimize relevant issues.
Iamnatty
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Well it can't possibly be related right
There is a link between high blood pressure and aortic dissection (and strokes) though. Scally would affirm this. Any doctor would. In fact, it's the most common link in both cases.I asked @Michael Scally MD about the association between anabolic steroid use and aortic dissection when IFBB pro Kris Dim had emergency surgery after he collapsed during training with aortic dissection in 2007. This is what he said:
"There is no association, link, or otherwise known between AAS and AAD. Many are quick to suggest a link between AAS and a medical condition simply by their existence in an individual. With over one million illicit AAS users matched by an equal number of licit users the link or association would be easily discoverable. This, however, does not stop the hysteria to suggest, wildly, for a connection. What is the evidence for any connection or association between AAS and AAD? Or, as the literature has possibly suggested weight lifting and thereby indirectly AAS."
Pro Bodybuilder Kris Dim's Stroke, Heart Surgery and Anabolic Steroids
It was reported on the Internet that 34-year old IFBB Pro Bodybuilder Kris Dim had a near fatal stroke or aortic dissection this month while training. He
I haven't seen the autopsy report so I don't know what the coroner/pathologist said about other contributing factors, etc. So we have what Bostin Loyd's mother told Palumbo to go by. Also, Palumbo has a tendency to dismiss/minimize relevant issues.
If I was Palumbo I'd be careful not to upset the mother too.
Blood pressure is so important to health and longevity that the Obamacare (Affordable Care Act) bill decided to pay doctors who are paid via Medicare (Medicare/Medicaid pays 60% of all bills) more or less money for their services depending on how successfully they were managing it for their patients, among other things.
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It's probably safe to say that the reckless use and abuse of steroids, peptides, sarms, and even recreational drugs, only worsened this genetic problem. The question is, could he have prevented this if he took his health more seriously, so he didn't leave a wife and kids behind at 29yrs old? I think the answer to that is "Yes," and that is what makes it more tragic, even angering some of us.
As much as a snake Palumbo is, I don't see any reason for him to lie about the autopsy report. Dave seems to only do things which benefit him, and lying about Boston's death wouldn't do him any good.
As much as a snake Palumbo is, I don't see any reason for him to lie about the autopsy report. Dave seems to only do things which benefit him, and lying about Boston's death wouldn't do him any good.
I asked @Michael Scally MD about the association between anabolic steroid use and aortic dissection when IFBB pro Kris Dim had emergency surgery after he collapsed during training with aortic dissection in 2007. This is what he said:
"There is no association, link, or otherwise known between AAS and AAD. Many are quick to suggest a link between AAS and a medical condition simply by their existence in an individual. With over one million illicit AAS users matched by an equal number of licit users the link or association would be easily discoverable. This, however, does not stop the hysteria to suggest, wildly, for a connection. What is the evidence for any connection or association between AAS and AAD? Or, as the literature has possibly suggested weight lifting and thereby indirectly AAS."
Pro Bodybuilder Kris Dim's Stroke, Heart Surgery and Anabolic Steroids
It was reported on the Internet that 34-year old IFBB Pro Bodybuilder Kris Dim had a near fatal stroke or aortic dissection this month while training. He
I haven't seen the autopsy report so I don't know what the coroner/pathologist said about other contributing factors, etc. So we have what Bostin Loyd's mother told Palumbo to go by. Also, Palumbo has a tendency to dismiss/minimize relevant issues.
Anabolic Steroid Use and Aortic Dissection in Athletes: A Case Series - PMC
The use of anabolic steroids in supraphysiologic doses has grown in the last decade as doping drugs in athletes. The high dose of anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS) causes cardiomyopathy, hypertension, thrombosis, myocardial infarction (MI), ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Saw Derek refer to that study in his video.
As far as I know Bostin had high blood pressure for years and he brushed it off saying there is no point to measure it since it's always high or something like that.
I guess the bottom line is just because you have a genetic susceptibility to something it does not mean you can't speed up the progress and kill yourself faster with AAS.
Rido
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I was gonna say the same thing... this is a common example of not looking at the whole picture.
High blood pressure, anabolic steroids, renal failure, who knows what else was going into his body and what other ailments he hasn't disclosed or knew about to the public? He has so many issues young age that is normally seen in people twice his age. what if the adipotide or whatever caused it, but it is unknown as it is was never truly tested on humans?
people always throw the word "Genetic predisposition", its a bullshit statement half the time with people that do not want to admit faults.
The family is desperately trying to investigate his death, but it is pretty clear of what caused it. its his life decisions
Didnt bostin loyd refused to go to dialysis or some crap? being a dialysis patient cuts years off your life, but being a non compliant dialysis patient.... Good luck
Pineapples4Puss
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Yeah I’m sure it was only genetics and something unrelated to his kidney failure and the mass amount of drugs he pushed into his body….
I never liked Dave he’s annoying and dumb as hell to me but I take him even less serious after this. If you think it split just because of unlucky genetics and not EVERYTHING else going on…. That’s such a ignorant statement to make.
I never liked Dave he’s annoying and dumb as hell to me but I take him even less serious after this. If you think it split just because of unlucky genetics and not EVERYTHING else going on…. That’s such a ignorant statement to make.
@Pineapples4Puss in all fairness the guy has Bostin's mother calling him and probably texting him saying "hey, the medical examiner said his aorta just ruptured after a hard workout, and his dad has a bad aorta too, so it was a fluke thing."
Now, his dad is still alive. And bad kidneys cause fluid retention and maybe even a hypertensive crisis. Uncontrolled blood pressure will weaken an aorta, etc, etc etc... But Palumbo also makes a good point that these things usually take 10-15 years off your life, not 50. So maybe it was a fluke? However, reckless use of drugs will very commonly take 50 years of a person's life.
It's just a shame because if you followed his videos online like I did you felt as if you knew him. And he wasn't a fake online personality like others he was very real.
Now, his dad is still alive. And bad kidneys cause fluid retention and maybe even a hypertensive crisis. Uncontrolled blood pressure will weaken an aorta, etc, etc etc... But Palumbo also makes a good point that these things usually take 10-15 years off your life, not 50. So maybe it was a fluke? However, reckless use of drugs will very commonly take 50 years of a person's life.
It's just a shame because if you followed his videos online like I did you felt as if you knew him. And he wasn't a fake online personality like others he was very real.
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barbell001
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Exactly the same kind of guy as Rich Piana - very personable and friendly. Would speak to you when out and always be pleasant.
Bostin Loyd on his Blood Pressure:
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Says according to his bp he should be dead by now and goes on to say bp meds don't agree with him so he won't take them.
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barbell001
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OHH MY BLOODY GOD!!! 210 / 200 BP And he just laughs it off like its nothing and normal. Then goes on to say he bought a cuff and it was always sky high which leads me to believe it was always around 200 plus. Is it really any wonder at all the events that happened in the run up to what happened are any surprise at all?Bostin Loyd on his Blood Pressure:
Says according to his bp he should be dead by now and goes on to say bp meds don't agree with him so he won't take them.YouTube
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SOUNDS LIKE HIS DEATH IS FROM AORTIC DISSECTION!Bostin Loyd on his Potassium levels:
He was called by the clinic and told he could die and he told them to "f" offYouTube
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