BPC 157 poll

[Alex27]

1000mcg per day intramuscularly, gummy feeling in my arm I had epicondylitis and epitrochleitis has almost completely disappeared with administration of TB500 1000mcg and BPC157 600mcg per day for about two months, there is still something left but I will shortly do a booster replacing the TB500 with Thymosin Beta 4 .
TB500 is a fragment of Thymosin Beta 4.

 

[Benf15harp]

this is a good point and something I'll consider


Thank you, looking foward to hearing more,

What is the most BPC youve done?
What doses of TB-500 have you tried?

do you have any gut feelings or personal hypothesises about BPC?

Half life is really unknown, its just guessing.
Most I’ve taken that i was certain of is 20mg or 4 5mg vials in one day. But now I make my own and put what should be 20mg per vial but could be up to 40mg due to inaccuracy of measuring spoons and honestly it does not matter the dosage for me at least. I just take as much as I feel necessary. So, it’s a possibility that I’ve taken up to 40mg in one day. TB 500 I took one vial per day either 5 or 10mg(can’t remember) for two weeks and felt no difference so decided to just go with BPC since in my case at least I can feel it almost immediately. I think BPC should not be a banned substance for athletes(since 2022) and should be something more common and available to the masses for what I believe has pain relieving, anti-inflammatory, and healing properties. Dosage like anything is user dependent. Like HGH I can only take around 2 ius per day anymore and I’m dying. But others can take 10+ius no problem.
The one negative for BPC is i have undoubtedly developed a dependence. Hope this helps some.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Half life is really unknown, its just guessing.
Most I’ve taken that i was certain of is 20mg or 4 5mg vials in one day. But now I make my own and put what should be 20mg per vial but could be up to 40mg due to inaccuracy of measuring spoons and honestly it does not matter the dosage for me at least. I just take as much as I feel necessary. So, it’s a possibility that I’ve taken up to 40mg in one day. TB 500 I took one vial per day either 5 or 10mg(can’t remember) for two weeks and felt no difference so decided to just go with BPC since in my case at least I can feel it almost immediately. I think BPC should not be a banned substance for athletes(since 2022) and should be something more common and available to the masses for what I believe has pain relieving, anti-inflammatory, and healing properties. Dosage like anything is user dependent. Like HGH I can only take around 2 ius per day anymore and I’m dying. But others can take 10+ius no problem.
The one negative for BPC is i have undoubtedly developed a dependence. Hope this helps some.

hell yeah dude thank you

 

[Benf15harp]

hell yeah dude thank you

Last 2 cents lol forgot to mention that I only do IM pins no subq
And I don’t believe Bpc is as systemic as it’s said to be. At least for me spot specific pins are effective and I’ve tried very large single pins in hopes of it working systematically but got zero relief except for the injection site.

 

[Ateam2023]

Last 2 cents lol forgot to mention that I only do IM pins no subq
And I don’t believe Bpc is as systemic as it’s said to be. At least for me spot specific pins are effective and I’ve tried very large single pins in hopes of it working systematically but got zero relief except for the injection site.

i tried spot inspection in elbow both inside and outside elbow and honestly i didn't notice much of a difference between them, so it's probably user preference ime, no hard facts to support except for feelz

 

[jankoch]

The topic in nutshell:
'lets use research chemicals in 10-20x dose as it is 'recommended'. What can go wrong?'
'i dont want to learn about side effects because it will cause them/ give anxiety. bro anyways its a miracle healing drug and doesnt have any side effects at all. '
'i did not experienced them therefore can't exist.'

ahh so basically ostrich policy is a good way to approach drugs according to some.

Good thing these topics are created. Idiots can't be reason with who doesnt have the basic heuristics to think about anything but some people might find these as readers and see how ridic 'logic' some people have on these forums.

Junkies are junkies... the question is the drug of choice. I guess lots of people wants to use enermous amounts of something while trying to stay asleep thinking all the serious side effects are just nocebo and weak mindedness.

You use these stuff you roll a dice. Combine lots of them, use stupidly high doses and you just try your luck more and more with some very dire consequences. Pick your approach wisely. Also some people can live long using stupid doses of anything. Some are just lucky. It doesnt mean you need to test this luck all the fucking time.

 

[Benf15harp]

The topic in nutshell:
'lets use research chemicals in 10-20x dose as it is 'recommended'. What can go wrong?'
'i dont want to learn about side effects because it will cause them/ give anxiety. bro anyways its a miracle healing drug and doesnt have any side effects at all. '
'i did not experienced them therefore can't exist.'

ahh so basically ostrich policy is a good way to approach drugs according to some.

Good thing these topics are created. Idiots can't be reason with who doesnt have the basic heuristics to think about anything but some people might find these as readers and see how ridic 'logic' some people have on these forums.

Junkies are junkies... the question is the drug of choice. I guess lots of people wants to use enermous amounts of something while trying to stay asleep thinking all the serious side effects are just nocebo and weak mindedness.

You use these stuff you roll a dice. Combine lots of them, use stupidly high doses and you just try your luck more and more with some very dire consequences. Pick your approach wisely. Also some people can live long using stupid doses of anything. Some are just lucky. It doesnt mean you need to test this luck all the fucking time.

And who recommended these doses and they were based on what exactly? I’ll wait……
Also, I’ve never once suggested anyone use my protocol.
Lastly, I never said that people didn’t experience side effects. My point here is to find out why they are experiencing them ie preexisting mental health issues or medication interactions etc and if they got the desired healing benefit. So, did the good outweigh the bad or was it ineffective?
Carry on. Be well.

 

[Benf15harp]

It should be well known that many of the sources of Bpc and other peptides are not exactly a guarantee. Seems no one that experienced the aforementioned sides are telling their source or if their Bpc was tested. It’s not improbable that their Bpc was filled with impurities or not Bpc at all.
People around here take 10x the recommended doses of hgh or aas and are considered cool. Lol.
Also, what type of people are these studies being made on? I doubt seriously they are doing it for free. What’s that mean? They need money and imo means they are suboptimal. Better than rats I guess.

 

[Liter O' Test]

The topic in nutshell:
'lets use research chemicals in 10-20x dose as it is 'recommended'. What can go wrong?'
'i dont want to learn about side effects because it will cause them/ give anxiety. bro anyways its a miracle healing drug and doesnt have any side effects at all. '
'i did not experienced them therefore can't exist.'

ahh so basically ostrich policy is a good way to approach drugs according to some.

Good thing these topics are created. Idiots can't be reason with who doesnt have the basic heuristics to think about anything but some people might find these as readers and see how ridic 'logic' some people have on these forums.

Junkies are junkies... the question is the drug of choice. I guess lots of people wants to use enermous amounts of something while trying to stay asleep thinking all the serious side effects are just nocebo and weak mindedness.

You use these stuff you roll a dice. Combine lots of them, use stupidly high doses and you just try your luck more and more with some very dire consequences. Pick your approach wisely. Also some people can live long using stupid doses of anything. Some are just lucky. It doesnt mean you need to test this luck all the fucking time.

I totally agree with you about everything except the junkie part, we are talking about injuries/illnesses here. I think the connection of high doses and implying a "more and more" mentality to being a "junkie" isn't a fair comparison

 

[jankoch]

1.It should be well known that many of the sources of Bpc and other peptides are not exactly a guarantee. Seems no one that experienced the aforementioned sides are telling their source or if their Bpc was tested. It’s not improbable that their Bpc was filled with impurities or not Bpc at all.
2.People around here take 10x the recommended doses of hgh or aas and are considered cool. Lol.
3.Also, what type of people are these studies being made on? I doubt seriously they are doing it for free. What’s that mean? They need money and imo means they are suboptimal. Better than rats I guess.

1. I got some from catcafe, then Qsc, had another chinese one I don't remember from where but it was an okay source too. Dose under 700-800mcg/day its okay, over that I am fucked mentally.

2. wtf? this kind of thing is only cool for people who stuck in high school mentally. ' ohh bro how cool you used so much of x'. Don't you see its ridic?

Lots of people here and other forums use crazy amounts of stuff for what? To be the top 10 guy in a 100 people gym.

3. I dont see your point. We don't have much human study. The dosages they used are nowhere near your daily 5-10-20 mgs. Not sure about US situation right now but doctors prescribed it in the daily 250-500mcg range the last time I checked (1-1.5y ago). And its a research chemical, so its not advised to use it so much. With your dosages and the fact that you use it without breaks its just as stupid as it gets. But quite honestly, I should educate you about game theory and why its not advisable to go into extremes but I think its pointless. You do you.

 

[Ateam2023]

i haven't taken any bpc or tb in 4 days and i'm already starting to ache a little more , not sure if its because of being off or not ima give it a few more days and see ," i don't know if anyone has experienced this after coming off of these particular peptides? "

 

[AlexDavis43]

Lots of people here and other forums use crazy amounts of stuff for what?

Healing injuries and improved recovery.

 

[UncleBuns]

i haven't taken any bpc or tb in 4 days and i'm already starting to ache a little more , not sure if its because of being off or not ima give it a few more days and see ," i don't know if anyone has experienced this after coming off of these particular peptides? "

BPC It's known to give acute pain relief and have anti-inflammatory effect. Maybe when you stop the pain that BPC was masking shows itself again.

 

[jankoch]

Healing injuries and improved recovery.

Yep, because they are mostly overtrained and body was abused for decades with high amounts of anabolic and what not. (we talk about 5-10-20mgs BPC daily without much breaks.If u need that much there are other problems). Also would be curious how much these people did PT for that injury or even prehab/ mobility. These people have 2 solution: either add new compounds or up the dose.

 

[Alex27]

Since some of you say that the pain reappeared at the end of the treatment, you should know that depending on the extent of the damage, therapy varies from 2 to 4 weeks with dosages ranging from 1000/1400/2000mcg of TB500 and 600/800/1000mcg of BPC157 this is for information.
PS: I would also like to point out that in the event of recovery you should not take the TB500 or BPC157 as a miracle cure and thus have the excuse to raise the loads again and split again......
PS: Honestly I had severe epicondylitis and epitrochleitis on both arms and the pain was insane, my treatment was TB500 500mcg and BPC157 300mcg, switching to 1000mcg of TB500 and BCP157 600mcg for 4 weeks with intramuscular injections near the site of the pain. after 4 months there was a slight reappearance of pain in my right arm, but nothing like I had before, soon I will do a booster with thymosin beta 4 and bpc157 .

 

[Benf15harp]

1. I got some from catcafe, then Qsc, had another chinese one I don't remember from where but it was an okay source too. Dose under 700-800mcg/day its okay, over that I am fucked mentally.

2. wtf? this kind of thing is only cool for people who stuck in high school mentally. ' ohh bro how cool you used so much of x'. Don't you see its ridic?

Lots of people here and other forums use crazy amounts of stuff for what? To be the top 10 guy in a 100 people gym.

3. I dont see your point. We don't have much human study. The dosages they used are nowhere near your daily 5-10-20 mgs. Not sure about US situation right now but doctors prescribed it in the daily 250-500mcg range the last time I checked (1-1.5y ago). And its a research chemical, so its not advised to use it so much. With your dosages and the fact that you use it without breaks its just as stupid as it gets. But quite honestly, I should educate you about game theory and why its not advisable to go into extremes but I think its pointless. You do you.

the point of people using 10x plus any reasonable amount of hgh or aas is that’s there’s at least plenty of evidence of the damage being done if not dying from such high amounts. Bpc there are no human studies whatsoever so, any dosage recommendation is complete BS. That’s just a common dosage that people used and had good results and also an affordable amount for most. That doesn’t mean that you can’t take a lot more. I’ve done so for four years with zero negative effects via every blood panel done once yearly. Also, I have my own physio that’s with me everyday for nearly 30 years. The fact is my body is fairly shot from around to 40 years of training 22 of those playing professionally and almost 20 surgeries (9 major) in that 22 years. You don’t know me. There isn’t enough data to implement game theory genius. But, carry on.

 

[Fenro]

rat studies say yes to depression and anxiety from BPC. Some internet people say it causes these issues. What say you, meso?

Link the study and quote the relevant section

 

[cdoubleu]

I can’t say that I got much of anything from Bpc, good or bad.
On the other hand, TB500 was amazing for me.

 

[jankoch]

the point of people using 10x plus any reasonable amount of hgh or aas is that’s there’s at least plenty of evidence of the damage being done if not dying from such high amounts. Bpc there are no human studies whatsoever so, any dosage recommendation is complete BS. That’s just a common dosage that people used and had good results and also an affordable amount for most. That doesn’t mean that you can’t take a lot more. I’ve done so for four years with zero negative effects via every blood panel done once yearly. Also, I have my own physio that’s with me everyday for nearly 30 years. The fact is my body is fairly shot from around to 40 years of training 22 of those playing professionally and almost 20 surgeries (9 major) in that 22 years. You don’t know me. There isn’t enough data to implement game theory genius. But, carry on.

Again,I see high chance that in the past you had the same mentality and might overdone things and that caused your body to break. 20 surgeries in a lifetime is not normal so maybe time for you to reevaluate it.


"Bpc there are no human studies whatsoever so, any dosage recommendation is complete BS."

thats not true, some doctors use(d) it and they used it in the daily 250-500mcg range based on the limited studies.

"There isn’t enough data to implement game theory genius. But, carry on."

Yes, there is. If you use 5-10-20x the usual dose and you are mistaken the consequences are dire. Your bloodwork is maybe okay but on the other hand you are maybe dependent on BPC for life now or you used it in such high doses for long time that you might desentisize and won't react to your own body produced BPC anymore. Or maybe your lack of breaks caused you to use higher and higher doses. These are research compound, we dont know long term effects let alone when you use 20x dose without breaks. And you don't want to implement polarized strategies such as this when you don't have info.

 

[Benf15harp]

Link the study and quote the relevant section

one of the nerds will help

Again,I see high chance that in the past you had the same mentality and might overdone things and that caused your body to break. 20 surgeries in a lifetime is not normal so maybe time for you to reevaluate it.


"Bpc there are no human studies whatsoever so, any dosage recommendation is complete BS."

thats not true, some doctors use(d) it and they used it in the daily 250-500mcg range based on the limited studies.

"There isn’t enough data to implement game theory genius. But, carry on."

Yes, there is. If you use 5-10-20x the usual dose and you are mistaken the consequences are dire. Your bloodwork is maybe okay but on the other hand you are maybe dependent on BPC for life now or you used it in such high doses for long time that you might desentisize and won't react to your own body produced BPC anymore. Or maybe your lack of breaks caused you to use higher and higher doses. These are research compound, we dont know long term effects let alone when you use 20x dose without breaks. And you don't want to implement polarized strategies such as this when you don't have info.

you nailed it. “You don’t have the info”. Neither do you.