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Lab work is a step in the right direction.

I would like to see the resume presented to you by apexa when they applied to be a brewly vendor.

As a potential customer I would be paying a convenience fee to have several quality vendors, all in one place for me to choose from. That means I have to trust that your process for evaluating the sources is top notch.

I would like to see what you saw when you decided this lab met the "brewly standard". So far your process remains basically a mystery.
 
Apexa is a total fuckup. His mast and deca were both underdosed. It’s only oil, fine, it happens. But his proviron was actually anavar, his tbol was massively overdosed. The guy who can’t get his capsule formula straight is also selling clen—which is measured in goddamn micrograms—and DNP, which can absolutely kill you if it’s misdosed. Your idea will work, man, but it’s only as good as the sources you can offer. This fucking smooth brain is out here making shit that he clearly has no business making and he’s one of your vendors.

@Brewly - This is exactly why we make the new sources here explain their process of making orals. Caps and tabs are difficult to make and most UGLs don’t know what they are doing.

That Tbol and proviron (which was actually anavar) were overdosed in the caps that was analyzed but I’m sure he didn’t intentionally overdose it. So it tells me that he has no idea how to blend his raws with his filler. The overdosed samples are hotspots in the mix and so other caps will be underdosed from those batches. Completely inconsistent which makes those caps total garbage.

They claim to use a v-blender AND geometric dilution. I don’t know his filler or his cap size or if he’s even using the correct calculations to figure out how much filler to use.

This is all BAD and why sources need to be vetted in public so guys can get eyes on it.
 
@BigBaldBeardGuy @shackleford

Your wish is my command.

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We'll also add a filter down the line that says
"Only show third-party results"

And this will show pics from customer reviews that have been marked as "containing bloodwork".

^ This bloodwork-review functionality already exists. But we'll add a filter for it on a storefront's lab page later.

It’s a start but ONLY Dragon has anything [emoji2369]

When are the other vendors going to have tests posted. Did you give them a deadline for the homework assignment?
 
@Brewly - This is exactly why we make the new sources here explain their process of making orals. Caps and tabs are difficult to make and most UGLs don’t know what they are doing.

That Tbol and proviron (which was actually anavar) were overdosed in the caps that was analyzed but I’m sure he didn’t intentionally overdose it. So it tells me that he has no idea how to blend his raws with his filler. The overdosed samples are hotspots in the mix and so other caps will be underdosed from those batches. Completely inconsistent which makes those caps total garbage.

They claim to use a v-blender AND geometric dilution. I don’t know his filler or his cap size or if he’s even using the correct calculations to figure out how much filler to use.

This is all BAD and why sources need to be vetted in public so guys can get eyes on it.

Great posts, and I greatly appreciate your in-depth breakdown. Fortunately, with a platform like Brewly we can listen to the community and take action accordingly. I've already shown my hand on matters like this, as I've recently culled a lot of the vendors that were less established. We are a customer-first platform, because that's how all successful marketplaces operate.

I'll be looking into Apexa's case.

Suspensions, cool, but what else can you do?


So, of course we can suspend a vendor from our platform, but what else? Allow me to talk about the planned formal order dispute system again.

Barring a complete Vendor-destroying event like an exit scam, we have many pathways to recover funds from customers even, say, 6 weeks after the fact with what we have planned.

Order disputes


Without bogging you down with the details (again), the system will be very similar to Paypal. Disputed orders cause the vendor's balance to be temporarily debited by the dispute amount until the dispute is settled.

As you can imagine, a vendor that has repeatedly shown themselves to have an abnormally high dispute rate will not survive for long. We can hold vendors accountable in ways no forum can.

What about today?


Regardless of all this fancy pants planned stuff, which you're within your right to call BS on until you see it with your own eyes, the platform already makes it easy to get to the information you want to see without having to scan through potentially hundreds of pages of forum bickering.

Customers that have ordered can leave reviews and even attach bloodwork. If you go to a product's review section you can filter "containing bloodwork" to see such reviews.

Vendors now have a labs/stock page area where they can publicly share their own testing/stock pics/equipment/etc.

Next on the list is Vendor reviews so you can leave reviews regarding a vendor's service, response time, attitude, etc.


We are ALMOST feature-complete, the rest is to wait and grow. It's always slow and steady in the beginning, but I assure you we will take off exponentially. I believe this because we've put the work in, and we'll continue to put the work in.
 
Great posts, and I greatly appreciate your in-depth breakdown. Fortunately, with a platform like Brewly we can listen to the community and take action accordingly. I've already shown my hand on matters like this, as I've recently culled a lot of the vendors that were less established. We are a customer-first platform, because that's how all successful marketplaces operate.

I'll be looking into Apexa's case.

Suspensions, cool, but what else can you do?

So, of course we can suspend a vendor from our platform, but what else? Allow me to talk about the planned formal order dispute system again.

Barring a complete Vendor-destroying event like an exit scam, we have many pathways to recover funds from customers even, say, 6 weeks after the fact with what we have planned.

Order disputes

Without bogging you down with the details (again), the system will be very similar to Paypal. Disputed orders cause the vendor's balance to be temporarily debited by the dispute amount until the dispute is settled.

As you can imagine, a vendor that has repeatedly shown themselves to have an abnormally high dispute rate will not survive for long. We can hold vendors accountable in ways no forum can.

What about today?

Regardless of all this fancy pants planned stuff, which you're within your right to call BS on until you see it with your own eyes, the platform already makes it easy to get to the information you want to see without having to scan through potentially hundreds of pages of forum bickering.

Customers that have ordered can leave reviews and even attach bloodwork. If you go to a product's review section you can filter "containing bloodwork" to see such reviews.

Vendors now have a labs/stock page area where they can publicly share their own testing/stock pics/equipment/etc.

Next on the list is Vendor reviews so you can leave reviews regarding a vendor's service, response time, attitude, etc.


We are ALMOST feature-complete, the rest is to wait and grow. It's always slow and steady in the beginning, but I assure you we will take off exponentially. I believe this because we've put the work in, and we'll continue to put the work in.
Your reply, once again, has totally missed the mark.
 
Great posts, and I greatly appreciate your in-depth breakdown. Fortunately, with a platform like Brewly we can listen to the community and take action accordingly. I've already shown my hand on matters like this, as I've recently culled a lot of the vendors that were less established. We are a customer-first platform, because that's how all successful marketplaces operate.

I'll be looking into Apexa's case.

Suspensions, cool, but what else can you do?


So, of course we can suspend a vendor from our platform, but what else? Allow me to talk about the planned formal order dispute system again.

Barring a complete Vendor-destroying event like an exit scam, we have many pathways to recover funds from customers even, say, 6 weeks after the fact with what we have planned.

Order disputes


Without bogging you down with the details (again), the system will be very similar to Paypal. Disputed orders cause the vendor's balance to be temporarily debited by the dispute amount until the dispute is settled.

As you can imagine, a vendor that has repeatedly shown themselves to have an abnormally high dispute rate will not survive for long. We can hold vendors accountable in ways no forum can.

What about today?


Regardless of all this fancy pants planned stuff, which you're within your right to call BS on until you see it with your own eyes, the platform already makes it easy to get to the information you want to see without having to scan through potentially hundreds of pages of forum bickering.

Customers that have ordered can leave reviews and even attach bloodwork. If you go to a product's review section you can filter "containing bloodwork" to see such reviews.

Vendors now have a labs/stock page area where they can publicly share their own testing/stock pics/equipment/etc.

Next on the list is Vendor reviews so you can leave reviews regarding a vendor's service, response time, attitude, etc.


We are ALMOST feature-complete, the rest is to wait and grow. It's always slow and steady in the beginning, but I assure you we will take off exponentially. I believe this because we've put the work in, and we'll continue to put the work in.


Again, to recover funds... I outlined the likely scenario. Guy buys something, gets it, and runs it in spring (2-3 months from now). Feels like it’s “off” and sends a sample (2-3 weeks optimistic for shipping usually longer). Gets analysis right away. Sees it’s crap. This is almost 4 months after ordering.

Now everyone that ordered something hits the panic button and wants a refund.

How would your Brewly buyer protection plan help after that length of time from purchase?

This is another reason your vendors NEED BATCH NUMBERS. This protects your vendors too. When a product tests bad they won’t have to make good on every package of that product they ever sent out. It also protects Brewly because if bad product tests come back and the vendor is inundated with refund requests they usually bolt and rebrand (SymBiotics and fuzzy floater vials).
 
NEED BATCH NUMBERS.
I was going to mention this after/if_i_ever got a response about the vetting procedure.
Brewly has an opportunity to raise the bar with vetting and testing. There can literally be repercussions if vendors dont comply.
Ideally, each new batch should be tested and results posted.

Brewly, put in the effort now, it will pay off later. Set the bar high and give yourself a good reputation. It could benefit us and you. Right now, its a joke. You have some work to do.
 
I was going to mention this after/if_i_ever got a response about the vetting procedure.
Brewly has an opportunity to raise the bar with vetting and testing. There can literally be repercussions if vendors dont comply.
Ideally, each new batch should be tested and results posted.

Brewly, put in the effort now, it will pay off later. Set the bar high and give yourself a good reputation. It could benefit us and you. Right now, its a joke. You have some work to do.
how do we prevent sources putting in fake batch numbers on their shit just because you're nagging them for batch numbers?

@BigBaldBeardGuy Brewly doesn't have the projection power yet to force our sources to add labs to their pages. These things, they take time.
 
Lab work is a step in the right direction.

I would like to see the resume presented to you by apexa when they applied to be a brewly vendor.

As a potential customer I would be paying a convenience fee to have several quality vendors, all in one place for me to choose from. That means I have to trust that your process for evaluating the sources is top notch.

I would like to see what you saw when you decided this lab met the "brewly standard". So far your process remains basically a mystery.
@Brewly , I’m not here to give you a hard time, but this a very important question and it deserves a reply. You’re currently in the start up phase, and you’re going to need to show some details on your vetting process if you want people to trust you to vet for them.

Maybe at some point in the future you guys will have built up a great rep and people will be able to trust that you’re doing the proper work vetting your sources, but until that time comes, transparency is going to be a necessity.

You’re essentially getting a free focus group right now. I think in general you’re doing a pretty good job addressing needed features that members have brought up, but you cannot ignore questions about vetting and expect it to inspire trust.

I’ll tell you what would inspire trust- show us an entire application and how it was vetted. Before you say “I can’t because OPSEC blah blah blah” you can easily redact any identifying info and still share enough to make members gain trust in you.

Unless of course, your vetting process is lacking? That’s what I’ll be forced to assume if you don’t share details. We want pictures of correspondence, pictures of labs, tests, etc.

Put it on the table and show us that you are doing the work and looking out for your potential customers.
 
how do we prevent sources putting in fake batch numbers on their shit just because you're nagging them for batch numbers?

@BigBaldBeardGuy Brewly doesn't have the projection power yet to force our sources to add labs to their pages. These things, they take time.
I would assume your vetting process is intended to weed out the type of source that would use fake batch numbers?

Also, asking for more buyer protection is not “nagging.” Your attitude on this question sucks.
 
how do we prevent sources putting in fake batch numbers on their shit just because you're nagging them for batch numbers?

I said it and you missed it. Batch numbers help the vendor too. Say I submit a sample from “Batch 5” and it comes back 40% underdosed. The vendor only has to refund for batch 5. If the vendor printed up 2,000 fake labels with batch 5 then they’re refunding all 2,000.

And to keep them from printing up batch numbers in 10 label increments even though it’s all from the same batch, you require them to list Product and batch number in their order list on your site.

Edit: and like @shackleford pointed out, samples of the same batch should be very very similar in concentration.

@BigBaldBeardGuy Brewly doesn't have the projection power yet to force our sources to add labs to their pages. These things, they take time.

I asked if their was a DEADLINE to have lab sample reports posted. You know, big bad Brewly puts that Brewly fist down so the vendors know who’s in charge of the Brewly site. If you make it required in order to be part of this AAS buying revolution then they’ll do it. We as an “outdated forum” do it. If you make it optional then they’re going to drag their feet and give excuse after excuse (we see that here at the “outdated forum” too).
 
I would assume your vetting process is intended to weed out the type of source that would use fake batch numbers?

Also, asking for more buyer protection is not “nagging.” Your attitude on this question sucks.
Its impossible to verify that batch numbers are real.

I'm attempting to show that batch numbers don't really make a difference. I have seen time and time again batch numbers being faked simply for label processing.

We've all seen labs who also add for some reason warning labels on their labels like if its some regulated item.
Buyers can send samples from the same batch in also. Results should be damn near identical.
Samples..of every batch..are going to be damn near identical, if the source is indeed a reputable source. You wouldn't be able to tell me the difference between batch #1 and #2 if I made them correctly.

The only reason batch numbers work in the real world is because there are grave repercussions, like my raw factory for example giving me a faked batch number can lead to a slew of legal issues. This is why we mark batches, to see where in the line they came from and month.

But a source, with their batch numbers? I HOPE, every source is using honestly in their batch numbering, but its just damn near impossible to know.
@DragonOrdnance , you started this venture and brought it to meso. If you dont like my "nagging", you can kindly leave.
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Its impossible to verify that batch numbers are real.

I'm attempting to show that batch numbers don't really make a difference. I have seen time and time again batch numbers being faked simply for label processing.

We've all seen labs who also add for some reason warning labels on their labels like if its some regulated item.

Samples..of every batch..are going to be damn near identical, if the source is indeed a reputable source. You wouldn't be able to tell me the difference between batch #1 and #2 if I made them correctly.

The only reason batch numbers work in the real world is because there are grave repercussions, like my raw factory for example giving me a faked batch number can lead to a slew of legal issues. This is why we mark batches, to see where in the line they came from and month.

But a source, with their batch numbers? I HOPE, every source is using honestly in their batch numbering, but its just damn near impossible to know.

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Well i guess thats the answer we were looking for. You really dont care what your customers want. Should I stop wasting my time then?
 
Well i guess thats the answer we were looking for. You really dont care what your customers want. Should I stop wasting my time then?
How did you get that from what I just said? smh

monkey tribe ask monkey farmer to number batch banana
monkey farmer fake batch number on banana
how monkey tribe verify, batch number on banana real, when all banana same if banana?
 
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