Bulk cycle

[Test3]

To start my stats 6’4” 275lbs ~15-18%bf

I’m not looking to cut right now even though on the higher bf% mainly because I was 365 pounds years ago and the pouch of extra skin hasn’t gone away so I don’t see a point of putting the work in to be shredded if I can never have a perfectly flat stomach.

Cycle history
-1st cycle 500mg test e/week 12 weeks, .5mg Arimidex every 3.5 days
-2nd cycle 500mg test e/week 12 weeks w/50mg Anavar/day last 8weeks .5mg Arimidex every 3.5 days
-3rd cycle 600mg test e/week and 400mg primo/week 16 weeks, i still needed .5mg Arimidex every 3.5 days to control my estrogen

I’m looking to do my next cycle with test e/primo/deca. I was trying to use primo as a substitute for using arimidex so I was thinking about upping the dosage of the primo but I’m not sure if that’s a good idea while also adding a new compound. I was thinking about 600mg test e/300mg Deca/600mg of primo a week to see if the primo at that level will control the estrogen.

I have a stockpile of Arimidex and caber on hand just in case.

Does anyone have experience with test/deca/primo? Should I hold off on upping the primo dosage until I know how the Deca will effect me then up the primo dosage. This is my first nor-19 cycle, I went with Deca instead of Npp because I plan on running it 16 weeks minimum and I don’t like doing frequent injections.

 

[oldgrey]

If you aromatize highly I think the deca might not be the best idea.. or maybe start it at a very low dose with the higher primo if you want the joint health, while having more over all increased mg and increased e control.

 

[kasperl]

start with npp first

in case you get side effects.. npp doesn't take that long to go out of your system (compared to deca)

 

[DugPrime]

You take AI when you have side-effects, you don't plan it like that.

 

[Test3]

You take AI when you have side-effects, you don't plan it like that.

Yes and if I don’t take it e3.5 days I get painful/burning nips, ance and pumpkin face

 

[Test3]

If you aromatize highly I think the deca might not be the best idea.. or maybe start it at a very low dose with the higher primo if you want the joint health, while having more over all increased mg and increased e control.

What mg of Deca for low dose? Instead of starting at 300mg start at 150mg? Or maybe even lower than that and when I see how I react reevaluate and adjust from there?

 

[DugPrime]

Yes and if I don’t take it e3.5 days I get painful/burning nips, ance and pumpkin face

and so? Once you have them, you drop the AI.

 

[Test3]

and so? Once you have them, you drop the AI.

What? Why would I drop the AI? If I don’t take it my back looks like a connect the dots page, my face looks like a jack-o-lantern, and nipples burn like a hot knives is getting shoved into them. It is used to stop aromatizing test into estrogen and I highly aromatize test if I don’t take it I will literally grow tits

 

[Mongo966]

What mg of Deca for low dose? Instead of starting at 300mg start at 150mg? Or maybe even lower than that and when I see how I react reevaluate and adjust from there?

You should start with 50mg NPP EOD.
Work up to 100mg EOD if you're into it.

 

[DugPrime]

What? Why would I drop the AI? If I don’t take it my back looks like a connect the dots page, my face looks like a jack-o-lantern, and nipples burn like a hot knives is getting shoved into them. It is used to stop aromatizing test into estrogen and I highly aromatize test if I don’t take it I will literally grow tits

you drop = you drop it in your mouth bro

 

[ackmack78]

You take AI when you have side-effects, you don't plan it like that.

No that's not how it works, unless it's your first cycle and you're waiting on labs or holding off until you get sides. Once you know your needed AI dose for your test dose you just start there with your next cycle.
If it's a higher AI dose you might ramp up the AI as the test builds up

 

[Test3]

you drop = you drop it in your mouth bro

Okay I thought you meant drop like drop it from my protocol. I was like no way

 

[oldgrey]

What mg of Deca for low dose? Instead of starting at 300mg start at 150mg? Or maybe even lower than that and when I see how I react reevaluate and adjust from there?

In my opinion, max 100mg/week. Even 50mg/week and just use more primo. Benefits can be seen as low as 50-100mg/week. You can always go up - harder to get it out of your system as deca lasts FOREVER to clear...