Is there any body who put on a good amount of muscle doing full body workouts?
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Type-IIx
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BOOM.
That is what I think of as a practical guide. Literally everything is correct, and if he were pressed, he could expound more deeply.
Even Ben Pollack, an absolute beast, admits 3-4 sessions weekly is all you need, and that increasing his frequency only satisfies his training addiction.
Big A gets it right.
If I do more than 3 or maybe 4 I won’t last more than a couple weeks.
Type-IIx
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It CAN be done, with strict manipulation of training variables, if you are OCD and want to plan out every detail, it's possible. It's REALLY unnecessary though.
My only previous cycle where I gained weight was 600mg test three years ago, I've just been on TRT (my natty test was 290 and free test was off the scale low, what bullshit) since then because I got too comfortable and happy with how I looked. And my most recent cycle was a cut on 300 test 400 tren. So I think I should be in a good position to grow. New plan with orals:
1+ test U 250mg (1ml, my TRT, mixed with the blend to keep PIP reasonable)
1-20 test E 600mg and nand D 400mg in a blend (2ml)
1-4 oral dbol 30-40mg
5-8 no oral
6 blood test (liver, kidney, cholestrol, fbc, test, est, prolactin)
9-12 oral dbol 30-40mg
13-16 no oral
14 blood test (liver, kidney, cholestrol, fbc, test, est, prolactin)
17-20 oral dbol 30-40mg
24 or later - post blast blood test
I'm thinking just Dbol for the oral because with a HCT of 0.498 (though I hadn't drink anything for 12 hours before) and a BP of 135/80 (it's genetic) on cruise, anadrol could be a bit too rough. Am I being over cautious?
I'm thinking about swapping from Deca to EQ at week 10 just to see which one I handle better as I've tried neither yet. Would EQ be a bad idea with that BP and HCT though?
Cdave.aol
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Cdave.aol
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Op, stick with something you can do consistently, and recover enough to progress. If you’re trying a high volume BB style routine and you’re feeling burnt out and dreading the next workout it’s probably not for you.
I think 8 or 9 sets is about ideal. A guy who works a stressful job and gets little sleep, probably needs less. If your out of work and sit on your ass and watch TV all day no stress, you can probably handle more. its individual. I hav been at a stressful job and interviewing for new ones, stressed as fuck, and I am sore the past 2 weeks from a routine that I have never been sore from. Stress and sleep and all lives matter.
I guess it all depends on how you count your sets as well. I only count failure sets. I don’t count warm up or feeler sets. So for chest in my A workout I’m doing 4 failure or beyond failure sets, but I’m doing about 5-7 sets to get to the first working set on the first exercise. If you gauge by rir I’ve had feeler sets that feel like an rir of 8 or 9 but they’re not.
Earlier today I worked up to 5 and quarter plates per side on belt squats for 8 reps. A couple of the feeler sets felt heavy as fuck
I also take all sets to failure, these science guys using RIR, taking a simple concept, training, and trying to make it rocket science.
for me its 1 warmup set then sets to failure, I don't really use heavy compounds anymore but if I did, id do more feeder sets.
if im curling 100 for sets of 8-12 to failure, ill do one set of 50x 12 then begin and like you don't count the warmup
for volume, I count droplets (2 drops) and RP as 2 sets. Definitely more than 1, but not the same as 3 straight sets. Ive heard some say count it as 1.5 but thats complicating shit too much, I think 1 rest pause set is about equal to 2 regular straight sets
for me its 1 warmup set then sets to failure, I don't really use heavy compounds anymore but if I did, id do more feeder sets.
if im curling 100 for sets of 8-12 to failure, ill do one set of 50x 12 then begin and like you don't count the warmup
for volume, I count droplets (2 drops) and RP as 2 sets. Definitely more than 1, but not the same as 3 straight sets. Ive heard some say count it as 1.5 but thats complicating shit too much, I think 1 rest pause set is about equal to 2 regular straight sets
This rest-pause is absolutely brutal.
Set to failure with about my 12-15RM.
Two more sets with 30 second timing that end up being around 8, then 4 reps.
Then two more sets with about half the weight that end up being around 12 then 6 reps. Everything to failure.
Holy shit the pump. If this doesn't make me grow I don't know what will.
Set to failure with about my 12-15RM.
Two more sets with 30 second timing that end up being around 8, then 4 reps.
Then two more sets with about half the weight that end up being around 12 then 6 reps. Everything to failure.
Holy shit the pump. If this doesn't make me grow I don't know what will.
Test_Subject
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Yeah man. Rest pause sets are no joke.
Even when I’m not running DC type training, I like to do a lot of accessory work rest-pause style.
Another way to do rest-pause that works well is to hit a 12 with just below your 12rm, then do sets of 5 with a 15-20 second rest in between until you can’t hit 5 reps anymore.
What ways are there to distinguish between when you fail your rep due to muscle fatigue or CNS fatigue?
When I fail reps I feel like I'm trying to contract the muscle, I can feel it getting tight, but it's just not strong enough to actually move the resistance and as much as I just "try to push harder" it's not capable.
When I fail reps I feel like I'm trying to contract the muscle, I can feel it getting tight, but it's just not strong enough to actually move the resistance and as much as I just "try to push harder" it's not capable.
Ironman580
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Too much bro bull crap science
You’re over complicating it. Can you do another rep? Did you fail trying as hard as you can to get another rep? If you’ve answered yes to both of these questions then you’re good.
If someone had a gun to your head and your loved ones head and was going to shoot them if you didn’t complete another rep with decent form could you?
if you answered no to this question then you’re good.
You’re asking the wrong question. The question you should ask is did you mentally fail or physically fail?
Dan1Pigstone
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Overload and Intensity > Volume.
I'm piling on fat, waist is up from 80 to 83cm and my lifts are not increasing.
This is with 850mg test, 400mg deca and 210mg dbol per week, just entering week 3 now.
3500 calories, NO ALCOHOL OR JUNK, averaging 250g protein a day.
Doing full body 3x a week with 3 rest-pause sets to failure each for 5 compound lifts which target pretty much all muscle groups.
I don't know what to do, drugs are already sky high, diet is super clean, I'm lifting with high intensity and frequency, and I'm already apparently in too much of a surplus and yet I am not able to add reps or weight. And honestly, my strength level is garbage. This happens every time I try to bulk, normally I blamed it on drinking, unclean diet and not enough drugs, but I seem to be doing everything right this time and I'm not getting results.
This is with 850mg test, 400mg deca and 210mg dbol per week, just entering week 3 now.
3500 calories, NO ALCOHOL OR JUNK, averaging 250g protein a day.
Doing full body 3x a week with 3 rest-pause sets to failure each for 5 compound lifts which target pretty much all muscle groups.
I don't know what to do, drugs are already sky high, diet is super clean, I'm lifting with high intensity and frequency, and I'm already apparently in too much of a surplus and yet I am not able to add reps or weight. And honestly, my strength level is garbage. This happens every time I try to bulk, normally I blamed it on drinking, unclean diet and not enough drugs, but I seem to be doing everything right this time and I'm not getting results.
Learn how to train and diet. Clean isn’t what matters, calories make you fat.
full body workouts are garbage. Drugs don’t do shit if you don’t train and diet correctly
Cdave.aol
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How is that even possible? Even with a crappy diet and training you should be getting some kind of gains with the amount of gear
