Canadian Domestic: Pareto Pharmaceuticals 2017

[czechboy]

Up to you, all the transactions will be trackable, I use it, but I know the risks

BTC is trackable? I thought the whole advantage of it was that it was untraceable.
Been trying to get BTC but it's a massive pain in the ass.

 

[CanuckBR]

BTC is trackable? I thought the whole advantage of it was that it was untraceable.
Been trying to get BTC but it's a massive pain in the ass.

I was meaning EMT, all transactions are trackable when you use EMT

 

[oddsonfavourite]

Why I like cash in mail the best

 

[mands]

Hey I thought I would toss this up here but Pareto has had their offshoot hGH for a minute now and I sent it for testing because well I don't trust hGH period. Good news everyone this is good stuff!

You might say oh 6.xx iu per vial is low... but people are paying $1000 for pharma 100iu kits so for me this is the best UGL hGH I have seen.

Testing HGH is like $500 cad btw, there is a reason no one does it

Anecdotely it has been the best hGH I have used

You might notice that the pic I have has a black top (my new kits), and the test has a white top (from fall 2017). He has both but will only have the white top moving forward.

How is this any good. Yes purity is great and dimer content isn't bad but these are 100 iu kits. You are getting jipped out of 37.4 iu's. I truly hope the manufacture and source has been made aware and correcting the situation.

Also, who is @Pareto1? Is he associated with @ParetoPharma?

mands

 

[oddsonfavourite]

I've been in touch with paretopharma@protonmail.com, just had a successful order, don't know about the other guy

 

[Steve84]

How is this any good. Yes purity is great and dimer content isn't bad but these are 100 iu kits. You are getting jipped out of 37.4 iu's. I truly hope the manufacture and source has been made aware and correcting the situation.

Also, who is @Pareto1? Is he associated with @ParetoPharma?

mands

I'm pretty sure he is

 

[WCL]

How is this any good. Yes purity is great and dimer content isn't bad but these are 100 iu kits. You are getting jipped out of 37.4 iu's. I truly hope the manufacture and source has been made aware and correcting the situation.

Also, who is @Pareto1? Is he associated with @ParetoPharma?

mands

Can you hook me up with your source of sub $400 kits with a full 100iu of gh?

I have seen many good contributions from you but this post makes me shake my head. I spoke with the lab and they said that the plan is to keep the kit at that level of dosage and purity. I can see where you are coming from... but at the same time this is the best product I have used for the dollar, and I've also used: Serostim, Norvotrop, Jeotrop, Kigtropin, Primatrop, Neauvotrop...

If I want to bite the bullet and go for the big guns, I can grab Serostim for $1500 a kit at 2x more $ per iu.

 

[Vita]

How is this any good. Yes purity is great and dimer content isn't bad but these are 100 iu kits. You are getting jipped out of 37.4 iu's. I truly hope the manufacture and source has been made aware and correcting the situation.

Also, who is @Pareto1? Is he associated with @ParetoPharma?

mands

Hey @mands,

The reason these are so good is that everything else domestic to Canada is so bad. I think most of us would rather get real GH than be buying kits that are just garbage. As WCL stated for the "price of theses" -- I would get 1/2 a kit of what I am currently running so it works out (for me anyways) to get 125.2 IU of these for the same costing as 100 IU of what I am running and I really doubt what I am running is all that pure.

Kinda sucks in Canada for most of us for GH

 

[MapleSyrup]

Hey @mands,

The reason these are so good is that everything else domestic to Canada is so bad. I think most of us would rather get real GH than be buying kits that are just garbage. As WCL stated for the "price of theses" -- I would get 1/2 a kit of what I am currently running so it works out (for me anyways) to get 125.2 IU of these for the same costing as 100 IU of what I am running and I really doubt what I am running is all that pure.

Kinda sucks in Canada for most of us for GH

That's why i dont even touch the stuff... just eat clean and do some cardio instead of rolling the dice

 

[Riz]

That's why i dont even touch the stuff... just eat clean and do some cardio instead of rolling the dice

GH has significantly more benefits than just metabolizing fat cells.

Eating "clean" and doing cardio can never mimic the collection of health benefits that GH provides.

 

[cflow69]

How is this any good. Yes purity is great and dimer content isn't bad but these are 100 iu kits. You are getting jipped out of 37.4 iu's. I truly hope the manufacture and source has been made aware and correcting the situation.

Also, who is @Pareto1? Is he associated with @ParetoPharma?

mands

I was referring to it being awesome for the bang for the buck as well

 

[mands]

Can you hook me up with your source of sub $400 kits with a full 100iu of gh?

I have seen many good contributions from you but this post makes me shake my head. I spoke with the lab and they said that the plan is to keep the kit at that level of dosage and purity. I can see where you are coming from... but at the same time this is the best product I have used for the dollar, and I've also used: Serostim, Norvotrop, Jeotrop, Kigtropin, Primatrop, Neauvotrop...

If I want to bite the bullet and go for the big guns, I can grab Serostim for $1500 a kit at 2x more $ per iu.

Yes I could.

Why shake your head I was just pointing out that if they are advertising 100 iu's of HGH why not have the correct dosing in the vials or just say it's a 60 iu kit. They should be held to a standard by their customers. Would you be okay purchasing 6 ml of test cyp just because the purity is 98% at 10 ml pricing?

If you are paying $1500.00 for serostim you are being ripped off as you are with these kits at $400.

Just trying to point out to you that you are the customer and should demand the correct dosing.

On another note the analysis report I see was done by a person who lied and faked my test results when they never even received my gh. So what does that tell you.

mands

 

[mands]

Hey @mands,

The reason these are so good is that everything else domestic to Canada is so bad. I think most of us would rather get real GH than be buying kits that are just garbage. As WCL stated for the "price of theses" -- I would get 1/2 a kit of what I am currently running so it works out (for me anyways) to get 125.2 IU of these for the same costing as 100 IU of what I am running and I really doubt what I am running is all that pure.

Kinda sucks in Canada for most of us for GH

I understand completely where you are coming from. You can look above for more info and why I think you should hold the supplier up to what they are advertising if that makes sense.

There are not many at all but a few that ship and can get GH into Canada. They are out there.

And actually the real reason I stopped in here is that someone with the handle Pareto is soliciting members via PM and saw @WCL post about the gh.

mands

 

[mands]

GH has significantly more benefits than just metabolizing fat cells.

Eating "clean" and doing cardio can never mimic the collection of health benefits that GH provides.

Hey I would hate to say but those health benefits are mostly anecdotal and most studies you find will not show much more health benefits besides fat loss and a slight increase in lean body mass.

I'm afraid to say working out regularly and a good healthy diet will take you further then GH ever will.

mands

 

[Riz]

Hey I would hate to say but those health benefits are mostly anecdotal and most studies you find will not show much more health benefits besides fat loss and a slight increase in lean body mass.

I'm afraid to say working out regularly and a good healthy diet will take you further then GH ever will.

mands

Mands,

As I admire your reputation around here I respectfully disagree. I'm not saying a clean diet and regular exercise are not paramount, but in combination with GH it takes things to a new level.

 

[Sledge762]

Yes I could.

Why shake your head I was just pointing out that if they are advertising 100 iu's of HGH why not have the correct dosing in the vials or just say it's a 60 iu kit. They should be held to a standard by their customers. Would you be okay purchasing 6 ml of test cyp just because the purity is 98% at 10 ml pricing?

If you are paying $1500.00 for serostim you are being ripped off as you are with these kits at $400.

Just trying to point out to you that you are the customer and should demand the correct dosing.

On another note the analysis report I see was done by a person who lied and faked my test results when they never even received my gh. So what does that tell you.

mands

That whole Janoshik thing is pretty fucked up. What even is real anymore

 

[mands]

Mands,

As I admire your reputation around here I respectfully disagree. I'm not saying a clean diet and regular exercise are not paramount, but in combination with GH it takes things to a new level.

Of course the combination would be a little better but not really as much as you might think.

Here is a study I found(there are more) and if you are interested it's a good read. Here is the summary of the study. Let me know what you think.

Despite enthusiasm for treatment of somatopause and projections that many tens of thousands of persons are using GH as an anti-aging therapy, there is little evidence to support its use to extend longevity or restore youthful health. A limited number of studies suggest that GH supplementation in older men does increase total LBM modestly by about 2-kg with a similar reduction in fat mass. These effects appear gender specific as women are generally more resistant to the effects of GH, with more modest increases in IGF-1 at similar doses and they often do not show improvements in LBM or fat mass.31 However, there is little controlled evidence that treating older men with GH alone improves voluntary muscle strength or performance (e.g. walking speed or ability to climb stairs) or importantly quality of life. In addition, GH administration frequently causes adverse events including edema, arthralgias, carpel tunnel syndrome and early insulin resistance.

Growth hormone in the aging male

mands

 

[cflow69]

I understand completely where you are coming from. You can look above for more info and why I think you should hold the supplier up to what they are advertising if that makes sense.

There are not many at all but a few that ship and can get GH into Canada. They are out there.

And actually the real reason I stopped in here is that someone with the handle Pareto is soliciting members via PM and saw @WCL post about the gh.

mands

Must be someone trying to scam an d pretend there pareto because I know for a fact it would not be pareto himself.

 

[mands]

Must be someone trying to scam an d pretend there pareto because I know for a fact it would not be pareto himself.

I have actually been in contact with @ParetoPharma and I have no doubt he would never do that. He seems like he runs a tight ship and follows the underground rules.

mands

 

[Riz]

Of course the combination would be a little better but not really as much as you might think.

Here is a study I found(there are more) and if you are interested it's a good read. Here is the summary of the study. Let me know what you think.

Despite enthusiasm for treatment of somatopause and projections that many tens of thousands of persons are using GH as an anti-aging therapy, there is little evidence to support its use to extend longevity or restore youthful health. A limited number of studies suggest that GH supplementation in older men does increase total LBM modestly by about 2-kg with a similar reduction in fat mass. These effects appear gender specific as women are generally more resistant to the effects of GH, with more modest increases in IGF-1 at similar doses and they often do not show improvements in LBM or fat mass.31 However, there is little controlled evidence that treating older men with GH alone improves voluntary muscle strength or performance (e.g. walking speed or ability to climb stairs) or importantly quality of life. In addition, GH administration frequently causes adverse events including edema, arthralgias, carpel tunnel syndrome and early insulin resistance.

Growth hormone in the aging male

mands

Most of the studies I've read including this one typically only analyze therapeutic doses, and yes at that level bodybuilding benefits appear insignificant.

However, "bodybuilders" use supraphysiological doses and finding studies on that style of usage is next to impossible. Hence you are correct in the sense that most reported GH benefits are anecdotal.

At the end of day training, eating, and recovery, take precedence over any drug.

Cheers.