Canadian Domestic: Pareto Pharmaceuticals 2017

[Seattle23]

Nothing against testing or Pareto but a lab sending in their own product makes me think twice. Just saying

 

[Steve84]

Nothing against testing or Pareto but a lab sending in their own product makes me think twice. Just saying

Sooo name a Canadian lab that does?
Or the lab that you run has tests independently?
Not to criticize but it's rare to see.
And Canada isn't in the anabolic lab program either.
I love this lab because they do care for some small things like this.

I've tested before and he tests his raws...
This test was based on a customer complaint as mentioned.
I want to test his tablets but just short money myself.

Their reputation isn't really questionable either hahahaha
It's quite the opposite.
Soo it's not like it's just random tests, just saying.

Raws you can't always predict quality so it's just mitigation.
But again if he didn't have a reputation I would agree somewhat but the reputation is the opposite it's great.

 

[Steve84]

Nothing against testing or Pareto but a lab sending in their own product makes me think twice. Just saying

You know I was thinking about what I wrote as my reply and maybe I didn't explain why I feel the way I do.
So I've tested 3 labs so far, Pareto, a 2nd canadian lab and an international china lab.

Let's start with the other Canadian...
Well this one I got fucked over with. All the claims of testing and overdosing and this and that. Well I dealt with shitty emails back and forth, bullshit about everything. Fighting over payment of the tests (after he agreed to pay beforehand)
All around it was a bad experience like it was my fault about his products not meeting label claim. (Don't want to get into it, PM me if you do want more)

2nd dealing with the chinese international was also amazing. Treated me great through it all. Paid for some of my tests even though they weren't official Simec accredited lab reports. (I didn't ask for my 2nd round because they treated me great overall I just wanted to give back)

Now Pareto, When I tested his product...Analyzer came back with a first report that wasn't favorable. The rep didn't say one shitty thing to me and i'm very confident would've made things right. However, before he did that he had Jano review the report first as he didn't understand why the result was low.
After a few back and forths of questions, it lead to several retests or recalculations done by Analyzer leading to the product testing actually was a mistake first time. (Turns out he made a mistake on more than a couple reports but) The final report turned out to be just a mistake done by analyzer and good for Pareto.

However what really set my opinion was how I was dealt with. All positive communication and then the tests actually got paid for, for what I did. I didn't have to fight, I didn't do anything, just all positive experiences about the whole thing. Through the process the rep was amazing and I really got the feeling he cared about his product. So when I see him testing raws I see a different side than maybe someone else would see.

I most likely will do some testing in the new year and the rep won't know until the test is done.
Hopefully i'll actually get a different lab in next year as well for some comparison.

But anyways I guess that's my story....Shill or whatever you might want to call it. I care about trying to mitigate my exposure to shit and harm reduction in general.
So due to my experience, which I hope you understand why I do say that based on what experience I had explained above. Is why I look at things different than maybe you do.

 

[Cha0ticbrah]

Just coming here to comment real quick on the process so far. Order going in tomorrow I’m being taken care of Pareto1 and my man is fantastic. I couldn’t ask for a better rep, giving me a hand with hcg and the bacterial water, assisting me and answering my questions. And it doesn’t seem like a generic robot dude seem genuine.

 

[Seattle23]

You know I was thinking about what I wrote as my reply and maybe I didn't explain why I feel the way I do.
So I've tested 3 labs so far, Pareto, a 2nd canadian lab and an international china lab.

Let's start with the other Canadian...
Well this one I got fucked over with. All the claims of testing and overdosing and this and that. Well I dealt with shitty emails back and forth, bullshit about everything. Fighting over payment of the tests (after he agreed to pay beforehand)
All around it was a bad experience like it was my fault about his products not meeting label claim. (Don't want to get into it, PM me if you do want more)

2nd dealing with the chinese international was also amazing. Treated me great through it all. Paid for some of my tests even though they weren't official Simec accredited lab reports. (I didn't ask for my 2nd round because they treated me great overall I just wanted to give back)

Now Pareto, When I tested his product...Analyzer came back with a first report that wasn't favorable. The rep didn't say one shitty thing to me and i'm very confident would've made things right. However, before he did that he had Jano review the report first as he didn't understand why the result was low.
After a few back and forths of questions, it lead to several retests or recalculations done by Analyzer leading to the product testing actually was a mistake first time. (Turns out he made a mistake on more than a couple reports but) The final report turned out to be just a mistake done by analyzer and good for Pareto.

However what really set my opinion was how I was dealt with. All positive communication and then the tests actually got paid for, for what I did. I didn't have to fight, I didn't do anything, just all positive experiences about the whole thing. Through the process the rep was amazing and I really got the feeling he cared about his product. So when I see him testing raws I see a different side than maybe someone else would see.

I most likely will do some testing in the new year and the rep won't know until the test is done.
Hopefully i'll actually get a different lab in next year as well for some comparison.

But anyways I guess that's my story....Shill or whatever you might want to call it. I care about trying to mitigate my exposure to shit and harm reduction in general.
So due to my experience, which I hope you understand why I do say that based on what experience I had explained above. Is why I look at things different than maybe you do.

I appreciate taking the stance of looking out for harm reduction. Unfortunately when was the last test you sent in ? For anyone to claim any lab is considered consistent, a batch needs to be tested every single month. Even then a raw batch can test at 98% but that doesn't mean a lab won't cut the raws aka (profit margin). My comments are not directed to this lab it's inregards to all UGL's. In the end this is the drug game and it's about profit to them. Including these guys testing the gear. So I take it all with a gain of salt.

 

[Steve84]

I appreciate taking the stance of looking out for harm reduction. Unfortunately when was the last test you sent in ? For anyone to claim any lab is considered consistent, a batch needs to be tested every single month. Even then a raw batch can test at 98% but that doesn't mean a lab won't cut the raws aka (profit margin). My comments are not directed to this lab it's inregards to all UGL's. In the end this is the drug game and it's about profit to them. Including these guys testing the gear. So I take it all with a gain of salt.

Let's go the reverse...
When was the last time you tested?

I think it goes down to complaints as well if no one is complaining and you don't cut raws (assuming the lab is genuine)
Why test every month?

I test enough that I'm comfortable with the lab.
I know without question if I ran something from them and said it's bunk, he would pay for testing in without questioning it immediately. I never have had to do that yet.

So I also get you are hesitant however but that is why he tests raws so he knows where his product sits.

Still again more than I see any other Canadian lab do. But just me.

 

[Seattle23]

Why test every month? Well due too the fact no lab here has control of the raws they receive from china. Looking at the testing program Meso-Rx has started. It's disappointing to see not one Canadian lab has ever been tested. Anyway Steve not picking a fight here just some friendly back & fourth.

 

[enigma34]

This source only ships Canada? Domestic Canada ,that's what it means?

 

[Steve84]

Why test every month? Well due too the fact no lab here has control of the raws they receive from china. Looking at the testing program Meso-Rx has started. It's disappointing to see not one Canadian lab has ever been tested. Anyway Steve not picking a fight here just some friendly back & fourth.

Ya I'm sad it's not part of AL.....
Guess we are a small part of the picture.

Guess point was something from someone is better than nothing from no one.
And no worries guess just didn't want to understate it's better than soo many labs in general not just Canada.

 

[CallmeAndy]

Hey guys just seen this thread looks like a good Canadian source i see many positive reviews. I have a few questions: Do i need a different kind of email address to reach out to Pareto and also what does CIM mean? My apologies if these are dumb questions. Now i figured CIM is cash in mail but like does that actually mean put money in an envelope and mail it??

 

[Steve84]

Hey guys just seen this thread looks like a good Canadian source i see many positive reviews. I have a few questions: Do i need a different kind of email address to reach out to Pareto and also what does CIM mean? My apologies if these are dumb questions. Now i figured CIM is cash in mail but like does that actually mean put money in an envelope and mail it??

CIM = Cum in your mouth...
As you gotta take it

 

[CallmeAndy]

CIM = Cum in your mouth...
As you gotta take it

Thanks for the reply

 

[Steve84]

Thanks for the reply

But yes you got it right!

 

[imazinger]

I appreciate taking the stance of looking out for harm reduction. Unfortunately when was the last test you sent in ? For anyone to claim any lab is considered consistent, a batch needs to be tested every single month. Even then a raw batch can test at 98% but that doesn't mean a lab won't cut the raws aka (profit margin). My comments are not directed to this lab it's inregards to all UGL's. In the end this is the drug game and it's about profit to them. Including these guys testing the gear. So I take it all with a gain of salt.

I really don’t understand your angle here? Have you ever used there products? If not what lab do you currently use? And with a name like “Seattle23” are you American or Canadian? If American do you have any access to Canadian labs? You seem to be awfully sceptical of this lab for what reason? Why are you not calling out other labs as well?

 

[Seattle23]

I really don’t understand your angle here? Have you ever used there products? If not what lab do you currently use? And with a name like “Seattle23” are you American or Canadian? If American do you have any access to Canadian labs? You seem to be awfully sceptical of this lab for what reason? Why are you not calling out other labs as well?

There was no angle here and if you were not illiterate. You would have read my comments were directed to ALL ugl's. Here's a gift for you son.

 

[Rosconow]

There was no angle here and if you were not illiterate. You would have read my comments were directed to ALL ugl's. Here's a gift for you son.

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Definitely a yank. Too condescending not to be....

 

[Seattle23]

Definitely a yank. Too condescending not to be....

 

[Rosconow]

That's awesome dude.

 

[imazinger]

There was no angle here and if you were not illiterate. You would have read my comments were directed to ALL ugl's. Here's a gift for you son.

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Pretty big words , nice book too ,how long did it take you to read it?
Anyhow still didn't answer anything I asked. I don't have time to read all your comments as the ones I have seen don't seem to have any real importance to anything gear related, just seems to be spouting off and bad mouthing labs with no proof of anything. Do us all a favour Maybe spend less time on meso and more time in the gym working on those tiny little arms in your profile pic.

 

[acoz]

Cant wait to get my gear!! it should be arriving today!!