Canadian Domestic: Pareto Pharmaceuticals 2017

OMG seriously man? I said if 2 people were the exact same and 1 used pareto and the other used the other labs, the pareto user would make more progress... and your gonna seriously reply "not everyone responds the same to AAS"..

well for fuck sake, for the sake of the imaginary scenario i was assuming that they were the same people who responded the same...geez ur realy gonna nit-pick like that? ill explain another way then....
"if the same person ran 1000 test from a normal lab for 8 weeks and then took a break and ran pareto test at the same dose for 8 weeks he would gain more during the pareto cycle"

Im sure you will find something to nitpick at there lol
Test is test. It all depends on the raws and how they brew it. If pareto has the same raws and the same brewing process as another lab the product would be the same. The name on the bottle doesn't mean shit. It's how they make it
 
Test is test. It all depends on the raws and how they brew it. If pareto has the same raws and the same brewing process as another lab the product would be the same. The name on the bottle doesn't mean shit. It's how they make it

Well, I would say that the name on the bottle is representative of the methods used to produce it. If a brand has a good reputation, chances are they are consistent, have a history of strong operations and client support.

You are right that product A, procured from the same AAS raw source and produced the exact same as product B, will be the same in the end. In reality, I don't think that this scenario replicates itself in real life.

It's easy to see two vials and think, "these look similar". But differences in production, QC, dosing, and client support all make a difference.

Do you feel me?
 
Well, I would say that the name on the bottle is representative of the methods used to produce it. If a brand has a good reputation, chances are they are consistent, have a history of strong operations and client support.

You are right that product A, procured from the same AAS raw source and produced the exact same as product B, will be the same in the end. In reality, I don't think that this scenario replicates itself in real life.

It's easy to see two vials and think, "these look similar". But differences in production, QC, dosing, and client support all make a difference.

Do you feel me?
Did you even read the post I'm replying to? I'm not questioning the reputation of the lab. Hes trying to say that 1000mg of pareto test will somehow work better then 1000mg from another brand. When the fact is. If they're brewed the same with the same raws, what label they put on the bottle makes no difference in quality
 
Did you even read the post I'm replying to? I'm not questioning the reputation of the lab. Hes trying to say that 1000mg of pareto test will somehow work better then 1000mg from another brand. When the fact is. If they're brewed the same with the same raws, what label they put on the bottle makes no difference in quality

You know at times i've questioned this....

Without doing a full on comparision I do think brands can differ in quality.
1000 mg vs 1000 mg

These is a brand I have used that based on perception alone i've felt some products are just superior. I do not know if it is raw quality with different impurities or carrier oil or what exactly. Maybe it could just be timing in the body.

But just for discussion about this and really loose theory. I have felt there can be some superiorities between brands.

Is it really enough to make a huge difference, I doubt it.... but I have felt something to this effect before.
 
Did you even read the post I'm replying to? I'm not questioning the reputation of the lab. Hes trying to say that 1000mg of pareto test will somehow work better then 1000mg from another brand. When the fact is. If they're brewed the same with the same raws, what label they put on the bottle makes no difference in quality

Yes, I understand this what you said. I'm not defending one brand over another.

But what I am saying is that there is more to it than someone putting the same amount of drug in. Is the API (raw) pure, Who's it from? What blend do they use for solvents or carrier oils? What filter? Do they do a proper QC?

Or for tablets, how are they mixing up the blend? Do they have tablets, or capsules, and if so are they putting the same amount exactly in each cap/tab? Are they mixing using pharmaceutical blenders? I know of a few labs that make oral products with no proper mixing techniques in their procedures.

What you are arguing is like saying because two cars have the same horsepower, they are basically the same car. I hate the Porsche vs Toyota comparison, but it sort of rings true when you talk like this.

If you think that making products like this is as simple as putting the amount of drug in a bottle, you haven't worked for a lab, or brewed a lot of product.
 
Yes, I understand this what you said. I'm not defending one brand over another.

But what I am saying is that there is more to it than someone putting the same amount of drug in. Is the API (raw) pure, Who's it from? What blend do they use for solvents or carrier oils? What filter? Do they do a proper QC?

Or for tablets, how are they mixing up the blend? Do they have tablets, or capsules, and if so are they putting the same amount exactly in each cap/tab? Are they mixing using pharmaceutical blenders? I know of a few labs that make oral products with no proper mixing techniques in their procedures.

What you are arguing is like saying because two cars have the same horsepower, they are basically the same car. I hate the Porsche vs Toyota comparison, but it sort of rings true when you talk like this.

If you think that making products like this is as simple as putting the amount of drug in a bottle, you haven't worked for a lab, or brewed a lot of product.
Yeah of course one lab could use way better brewing techniques then another that's not what were talking about here...

And I'm not saying the two cars have the same horsepower. I'm saying the two cars are identical because the parts that went into it are the same. As well as the way they assembled the parts. That means the two cars now have the same horsepower, the name u put on it means absolutely nothing.

If the guy had posted that he thinks pareto gear works better for him because he believes they have better brewing techniques or better raws or whatever then that would have been fine.
 
What everyone is trying to say is that if u took the sticker off and took 2 different labs and sent them into testing and both came back exact same mg of test. Both labs that are accurately dosed will do the Same thing . Test is test. The only difference would be if pereto test e250 is 250 and hilly Billy brew is tested and is only 200mg not 250 as stated on sticker. That would be only difference bc hillbilly brew is 200mg but says 250 and pereto is 250 and says 250. 1000mg of real true test will do the same a 1000mg true test of a different brand. Make sense? Only thing about well known brands is there known to make it 250mg not 200.( not actual numbers just making example). So when ur taking 1000mg of pereto that's doses right and u THINK ur getting the 1000mg from hillbilly brew but only getting 800 then sure theres a difference. But maybe I'm retarded
 
Received some Nutrobal and Ostarine SARM from Pareto

Day 4 And I am eating a horse for dinner since day 1

You can tell this product (nutrobal good because of the terrible taste and hunger response, not to mention I sleep so easily (bad sleeper usually)
 
Received some Nutrobal and Ostarine SARM from Pareto

Day 4 And I am eating a horse for dinner since day 1

You can tell this product (nutrobal good because of the terrible taste and hunger response, not to mention I sleep so easily (bad sleeper usually)


Plus one for the nutrobol. I have a copy of the anabolics textbook I should post the graphs showing the rising igf and gh levels that come from usage

Pareto has been the best I have used, worth the extra couple bucks
 
What everyone is trying to say is that if u took the sticker off and took 2 different labs and sent them into testing and both came back exact same mg of test. Both labs that are accurately dosed will do the Same thing . Test is test. The only difference would be if pereto test e250 is 250 and hilly Billy brew is tested and is only 200mg not 250 as stated on sticker. That would be only difference bc hillbilly brew is 200mg but says 250 and pereto is 250 and says 250. 1000mg of real true test will do the same a 1000mg true test of a different brand. Make sense? Only thing about well known brands is there known to make it 250mg not 200.( not actual numbers just making example). So when ur taking 1000mg of pereto that's doses right and u THINK ur getting the 1000mg from hillbilly brew but only getting 800 then sure theres a difference. But maybe I'm retarded

I prefer hillbilly to pereto
 
Anyone try the Clen from Pareto?

They come in 100 mcg tablets... easy to break?

They’re not too easy to break it’s actually pretty difficult. The Clen is strong though so much to a point where I stopped taking it. My heart rate was so fast and blood pressure was so high my girlfriend could hear my heart through my neck laying in bed through the pillows. I had a resting heart rate of 120 when my normal was 50-60 and my blood pressure was 182 over 60 when my normal was 130 over 65 around there. Do not take this one pill at a time every other day being lazy thinking it equals as half a pill a day. Dose 50 a day tops lol not worth the risk
 
They’re not too easy to break it’s actually pretty difficult. The Clen is strong though so much to a point where I stopped taking it. My heart rate was so fast and blood pressure was so high my girlfriend could hear my heart through my neck laying in bed through the pillows. I had a resting heart rate of 120 when my normal was 50-60 and my blood pressure was 182 over 60 when my normal was 130 over 65 around there. Do not take this one pill at a time every other day being lazy thinking it equals as half a pill a day. Dose 50 a day tops lol not worth the risk

What are you using to split?
Shoppers drug mart sells a pill splitter for like 10 bucks, works awesome and no issues.
 
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