Canadian Domestic: Pareto Pharmaceuticals 2020

[muscletrain]

Define damage if you dont mind

I've only seen the studies where it effects specifically mitochondria energy passage.

Besides the Cutter studies way back on weight loss I've seen some non human studies that are concerning, like I said I'm all about the persons choice but I'll never touch it:

"The birds, which are a widely used avian model not displaying age-related obesity, were treated with a dose of DNP per kilo which was well within the range of what is used illegally by humans. The dose had no short-term deleterious effects and only mildly increased the metabolism of these birds," says Dr François Criscuolo, who is a CNRS researcher in Strasbourg.

"While DNP-treated birds were looking healthy, demonstrated similar physical performances than control animals, and were not displaying physiological signs of premature ageing, this new study reveals that the lifespan of the birds was actually reduced by 20% (~ 1 year). This would be equivalent to a reduction of approximately 15 years in human life, which should provide a serious warning signal to both current and prospective users, as well as to scientists investigating its use as a medicine," adds Dr Stier.

 

[sixfoot6]

The damage that dnp creates at the cellular level is no joke.

Can you expand on this? I’m curious and ignorant. Full honesty here lol

 

[ParetoPharmaceuticals]

Fuck you can’t find dnp anywhere. How are reviews

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[justanoob]

Awesome. I used to use your 20mg cialis as my daily dose and was just walking around with a serious boner all day long.

How long did you run 20mg cialis daily? I’ve been doing the same for probably a month or two, and wasn’t really sure if there was any negative health effects to worry about?

 

[justanoob]

I split them in half and run 10mg a day. Wicked pumps

Agreed. The cialis pump is awesome and it helps keep my BP in range. Do you know if there is any issue running 10-20mg cialis daily long term?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Agreed. The cialis pump is awesome and it helps keep my BP in range. Do you know if there is any issue running 10-20mg cialis daily long term?

i was doing 10 mg for awhile and did experience lightheadedness a few times after bending down to load the bar that i had placed on the floor. Not intense, but noticeable.

There was also a couple of instances where after sitting for 15 minutes or more in the car, upon exiting i experienced some sudden, but short lived head pressure.

For me personally i think 10 mg/day is too much. i really think 5 mg/day would be perfect for me.

 

[justanoob]

i was doing 10 mg for awhile and did experience lightheadedness a few times after bending down to load the bar that i had placed on the floor. Not intense, but noticeable.

There was also a couple of instances where after sitting for 15 minutes or more in the car, upon exiting i experienced some sudden, but short lived head pressure.

For me personally i think 10 mg/day is too much. i really think 5 mg/day would be perfect for me.

Do you think the cialis was dropping your BP down to far and that was causing some of the issues like lightheaded/head pressure?

I’m currently on cycle, and my BP is sitting around 128/70ish, which is still a little higher then I would like, but that’s with me taking 20mg cialis daily. I haven’t been having any issues with headaches, or stuffy nose, and I overall feel great, but I was wondering if 20mg cialis would cause any negative health issues?

 

[muscletrain]

Do you think the cialis was dropping your BP down to far and that was causing some of the issues like lightheaded/head pressure?

I’m currently on cycle, and my BP is sitting around 128/70ish, which is still a little higher then I would like, but that’s with me taking 20mg cialis daily. I haven’t been having any issues with headaches, or stuffy nose, and I overall feel great, but I was wondering if 20mg cialis would cause any negative health issues?

Negative health issues don't think so but 20mg/day is a shitload for a daily dose. 5mg is the sweet spot.

 

[Jestopherson]

Agreed. The cialis pump is awesome and it helps keep my BP in range. Do you know if there is any issue running 10-20mg cialis daily long term?

I did for a bit until the congestion snuck up on me and I literally felt like I couldn't breathe anything I did anything.

 

[Jet Labs]

Negative health issues don't think so but 20mg/day is a shitload for a daily dose. 5mg is the sweet spot.

Wouldn't it be better to go by an amount per lb of bodyweight or would 5mg work the same for a 240lb guy as it does for a 180lb guy?

I've wondered about this for a while now.

 

[justanoob]

Negative health issues don't think so but 20mg/day is a shitload for a daily dose. 5mg is the sweet spot.

Yeah, I was breaking them in half, and taking 10mg daily, but I got kind of lazy one day and just took a pill, and had a noticeable difference in pump at the gym. Ever since then I have just been taking the full 20mg, 5 days a week.

Wouldn't it be better to go by an amount per lb of bodyweight or would 5mg work the same for a 240lb guy as it does for a 180lb guy?

I've wondered about this for a while now.

I’ve wondered this too. I’m 6’5 and was 258 the other morning, so I was hoping maybe I wasn’t reeeeally over doing it with the cialis lol.

 

[Jet Labs]

Yeah, I was breaking them in half, and taking 10mg daily, but I got kind of lazy one day and just took a pill, and had a noticeable difference in pump at the gym. Ever since then I have just been taking the full 20mg, 5 days a week.



I’ve wondered this too. I’m 6’5 and was 258 the other morning, so I was hoping maybe I wasn’t reeeeally over doing it with the cialis lol.

You should try some test-suspension pre gym along with that cialis if you're looking for insane pumps

 

[muscletrain]

You should try some test-suspension pre gym along with that cialis if you're looking for insane pumps

I concur test susp even at 50mg, 100mg is rocket fuel for aggression/pump.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Do you think the cialis was dropping your BP down to far and that was causing some of the issues like lightheaded/head pressure?

I’m currently on cycle, and my BP is sitting around 128/70ish, which is still a little higher then I would like, but that’s with me taking 20mg cialis daily. I haven’t been having any issues with headaches, or stuffy nose, and I overall feel great, but I was wondering if 20mg cialis would cause any negative health issues?

i believe it was lowering it too far. As far as health concerns, i honestly don't know. Lower dosages are approved for daily use, but i don't think that exceeds 5 mg. Not sure if i'd want to take a wait and see approach.

You could always add in celery seed extract to the lower Cialis dosage. Maybe not combined, but alternate days, given that Cialis has a 36 hour half-life or something close to that.

 

[Jestopherson]

I concur test susp even at 50mg, 100mg is rocket fuel for aggression/pump.

I wanted to use it before hitting the bedroom sometime. How long before workouts should you take it?

 

[muscletrain]

I wanted to use it before hitting the bedroom sometime. How long before workouts should you take it?

Both activities 45mins to an hour is more than enough if its Aqeous like Paretos. I just slin pin it after heating it up have only had it clog maybe 1 or 2 times before.

Warm under hot water + Shake before drawing > backload into slin pin = voila.

 

[Jet Labs]

I concur test susp even at 50mg, 100mg is rocket fuel for aggression/pump.

Tren-suspension will turn you into Bane no joke!

 

[Pantera]

How long did you run 20mg cialis daily? I’ve been doing the same for probably a month or two, and wasn’t really sure if there was any negative health effects to worry about?

Only a couple of months, until the pack ran out. Didn't notice any negative health effects but maybe I didn't run it for long enough.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Besides the Cutter studies way back on weight loss I've seen some non human studies that are concerning, like I said I'm all about the persons choice but I'll never touch it:

"The birds, which are a widely used avian model not displaying age-related obesity, were treated with a dose of DNP per kilo which was well within the range of what is used illegally by humans. The dose had no short-term deleterious effects and only mildly increased the metabolism of these birds," says Dr François Criscuolo, who is a CNRS researcher in Strasbourg.

"While DNP-treated birds were looking healthy, demonstrated similar physical performances than control animals, and were not displaying physiological signs of premature ageing, this new study reveals that the lifespan of the birds was actually reduced by 20% (~ 1 year). This would be equivalent to a reduction of approximately 15 years in human life, which should provide a serious warning signal to both current and prospective users, as well as to scientists investigating its use as a medicine," adds Dr Stier.

I find this quite interesting and wish there was a human model.

The mice model showed increased lifespan as a result of moderate DNP usage.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1474-9726.2008.00407.x#:~:text=We%20found%20(Fig.,days%20in%20the%20treated%20group.

Also, mitochondrial uncoupling is being HEAVILY studied as a method of increasing lifespan... without getting into too much detail, mitochondrial uncoupling is what DNP does.

It's an interesting topic for sure.
Considering I only plan on ever maxing out at 100mg per day for short periods (Mostly for the insulin sensitivity benefits, due to the constant forced eating and GH use associated with out lifestyle) I dont think I'll ever really get into some of the crazy shit that guys do with DNP

But its definitely an interesting topic... moreso since two seperate models showed two WILDLY different results in the same compound

 

[muscletrain]

I find this quite interesting and wish there was a human model.

The mice model showed increased lifespan as a result of moderate DNP usage.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1474-9726.2008.00407.x#:~:text=We%20found%20(Fig.,days%20in%20the%20treated%20group.

Also, mitochondrial uncoupling is being HEAVILY studied as a method of increasing lifespan... without getting into too much detail, mitochondrial uncoupling is what DNP does.

It's an interesting topic for sure.
Considering I only plan on ever maxing out at 100mg per day for short periods (Mostly for the insulin sensitivity benefits, due to the constant forced eating and GH use associated with out lifestyle) I dont think I'll ever really get into some of the crazy shit that guys do with DNP

But its definitely an interesting topic... moreso since two seperate models showed two WILDLY different results in the same compound

Was definitely something i considered, I could have sworn Pareto had 100mg capsules before. I always wanted to try at most a 100mg run for maybe a 3-4 weeks since most people say that dose is very, very tolerable.

I have read of that one life extension doc looking into it for longevity now too, and bird model is not the best extrapolation I just found it interesting.