Canadians talk domestic

[EazyE]

Absolutely. I’m just thinking about the whole “doctor/patient confidentiality” thing. I think it would be immoral, if not illegal to disclose information to your insurance company.

I agree with you man. Don’t trust em.

 

[Britz]

Crazy. I thought doctors had their patients best interest in mind.

 

[CanuckBR]

Just make sure you make an informed decision prior to disclosing AAS use, as what you tell others can be used against you. Never trust insurance companies. If they can find a loophole to avoid coverage....

When you sign the contract the fine print states that you do full access to your medical file for the insurance company

 

[Dass195]

@Dass195 I don't understand what you're getting at, am I paranoid? How so?

You're basically taking a TRT dose of test. I personally wouldn't bother with an AI unless blood work and high estrogen symptoms warranted its use.

Masteron is a DHT and it does not convert into estrogen so no worry there.

I aromatize like a mofo and you're running a lot of ai for 350 test for normal cycles i think. I shouldn't need the a.i at this dose except for the fact i've had gyno even before cycling due to my fucked up receptors i guess. I was just saying for a double dose of test you're using quite the dose of stane but its all person to person.

I assumed you just randomly tried your dose but when i read you had bloodwork done thats awesome!

 

[EazyE]

Crazy. I thought doctors had their patients best interest in mind.

It’s all about the money....nothing is safe!

 

[Britz]

It’s all about the money....nothing is safe!

You got that right Easy. I’m losing faith in the medical field. They have no problem flooding the streets with OxyContin or what ever the fuck it’s called because big pharma wants it that way... and really? Disclosing private conversations with patients to insurance companies? Wtf?

 

[EazyE]

You got that right Easy. I’m losing faith in the medical field. They have no problem flooding the streets with OxyContin or what ever the fuck it’s called because big pharma wants it that way... and really? Disclosing private conversations with patients to insurance companies? Wtf?

Totally agree. I lost faith a long time ago...

 

[Apexvallen]

I've ran both and much prefer the prami.

@cflow69 and @Steve84 have you guys ran Caber? If so, how would you compare it to Prami?

 

[Riz]

I aromatize like a mofo and you're running a lot of ai for 350 test for normal cycles i think. I shouldn't need the a.i at this dose except for the fact i've had gyno even before cycling due to my fucked up receptors i guess. I was just saying for a double dose of test you're using quite the dose of stane but its all person to person.

I assumed you just randomly tried your dose but when i read you had bloodwork done thats awesome!

Yes, I know how my body functions through several lab test.

I conduct a real EOD pinning schedule not the m/w/f style. So some weeks it's 400 mgs and the latter is 350.

Yes, Aromasin works well for me and doesn't tank my estrogen like Arimidex does. 12.5 mg's of Aromasin isn't a high dose in my opinion, and it has a short half-life in men.

Also, this is my first time running a nandrolone and I don't want to take any chances, seeing that nandrolones also convert into estrogen.

Anyways, cheers.

 

[Fattest_animal]

Have any of your tried injectable L-Carnitine? Talked about it with my trainer and am looking for Meadows protocole with it. Sounds interesting to say the least.

 

[cflow69]

@cflow69 and @Steve84 have you guys ran Caber? If so, how would you compare it to Prami?

Never ran caber either . Prami only. And I've only ran it when I ran my Tren cycle and I've only ran Tren once . It defenitly helped with my sleep tho . And I didn' get lethargic as fuck.

 

[Apexvallen]

Never ran caber either . Prami only. And I've only ran it when I ran my Tren cycle and I've only ran Tren once . It defenitly helped with my sleep tho . And I didn' get lethargic as fuck.

Yep, prami has helpoed my sleep immensely. Quick little GH boost too so you might get swollen hands in the morning.

 

[Apexvallen]

In 1992 Schilling investigated pramipexole in a randomized, double-blind, crossover study in 12 healthy volunteers.These test looked at pramipexoles effects on prolactin, human growth hormone, thyrotropin, cortisol, and corticotropin levels. Single oral doses of 0.1, 0.2, and 0.3 mg pramipexole and placebo were studied over a period of 24 hours. Pramipexole decreased serum prolactin levels in a dose-dependent manner, with a maximum effect after 2 to 4 hours. Serum levels of human growth hormone were dose-dependently increased; however, this effect was only significant 2 hours after drug administration. Furthermore, a slight increase in serum cortisol levels and a slight decrease in serum thyrotropin levels was observed.
The Science of pramipexole
Prami increases your GH production, by stopping the release of somatostatin. Basically somatostatin is secreted by your hypothalmus in response to growth hormone being released, the somatostatin closes the faucet so to speak on the gh dripping into your body, This would be known as a negative feedback loop. Using prami right before your about to sleep will let you produce several times greater Growth hormone over night while your fast asleep and your insulin levels are low.
Dosing
0.1 mg of an oral dose of prami effects both prolactin and GH production. With a 0.5mg dose prolactin levels decreased by about 50% and GH increased by 400%.

Many people get nausea when using pramipexole I know that I personally do. To combat this take it at night a few hours before bed if possible. Start with 0.1mg when ready then ramp up to 0.25 and so on up to 1.00 gram eventually however 1.00 gram will take at least a week to work up to.
Conclusion
Prami would be a great addition to someone using peptides such as GHRP-2 or 6 and cjc-1295, They would work synergistic-ally with most peptide cycles and even better when adding aas into the mix.

References

Schilling JC1, Adamus WS, Palluk R (1992) Neuroendocrine and side effect profile of pramipexole, a new dopamine receptor agonist, in humans. Neuroendocrine and side effect profile o... [Clin Pharmacol Ther. 1992] - PubMed - NCBI
Comparison of pramipexole with and without domperidone co-administration on alertness, autonomic, and endocrine functions in healthy volunteers

 

[Apexvallen]

But this is Mands' reply to that article....

"To answer your question you are not wasting your time taking MK at all. The increase in igf-1 levels are significantly higher than you will get from Prami.

This study was done with a single dose. Not long term use of Prami. I say whoever first post this was someone trying to sell Prami to bodybuilders."


So yeah, I still prefer prami based on once the nausea is over, its basically side effect free.

 

[CanuckBR]

Yep, prami has helpoed my sleep immensely. Quick little GH boost too so you might get swollen hands in the morning.

Interesting, mk677 can cause swollen hands in the morning as well, since it boosts the GH, am I correct about assuming that?

 

[Apexvallen]

Interesting, mk677 can cause swollen hands in the morning as well, since it boosts the GH, am I correct about assuming that?

Yeah I get that quite consistently while on mk677

 

[Fattest_animal]

Have any of your tried injectable L-Carnitine? Talked about it with my trainer and am looking for Meadows protocole with it. Sounds interesting to say the least.

More precisely about Synthetine. Meadows seems to like it. Has anyone tried it personally?

 

[3ml]

I think I'm too scared to tell my family doctor about that, I'm not that big I rather say I spend big bucks in supplements [emoji55]

I found a naturopath that will get bloods req’d for me anytime. I was up front and honest with him. He said he would rather mmonitor me than me not go to a dr because of the implications for insurance etc. They are a good option.

 

[Apexvallen]

Decent size forearms for a buck eighty?

 

[Fitwelder]

Decent but could be bigger