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[Apexvallen]

Its not always about that bro. Sometimes when a company has a good track record of their oils being clean and never having floaties or being filtered in a certain way or having dosage within a certain smaller tolerance than other UGLs, the machinery can be more expensive, hence the higher than average cost. It is up to the consumer to decide if the price rise is worth it and if those improvement or benefits are tangible or even real, but to say its totally because consumers think the raws are better, thats a bit silly. Thats one of the last things I'd think if I saw higher than normal test cost.

 

[Blkhrt]

CJM is a joke. There are only a handful of quality members, the rest are parrots and noobs.
There is always drama on that board and if you disagree with a vet you get jumped on. I hold nothing but respect for most vets but just because you've pinned for a decade+ doesn't mean you know it all either, yet some people think they do. Drug use of any sort is not a cookie cutter subject.

It is nice to see uncensored reviews and lab questions on NM. You also rarely see unwarranted accusations thrown around.

I have found that many vets are stuck in old school ways when we know so much more now. For example there are people that brew on this board that put finished vials into an autoclave. A scary number of users on meso think that's the Way to properly
Sterilize. It scares me to think some of these people are selling their gear to unwary custies.

I've read so much crap written by vets that I do not blindly trust someone based on experience claimed or post count or date registered. It boggles the mind, truly.

In fact, the older you are and the longer ago you started using gear, the more likely you are into some dumb shit. These guys keep doing the same thing they did back in college in 93 and they think they know their shit when they are just plain dumb and wrong. The worst lifting advice I get is from these experienced dudes, more often than not. These people succeed despite their lack of knowledge. Imagine how far they could go with some education on the subject at hand

 

[Apexvallen]

Well Mission levitra is a bust. Took two of em and felt nothing. I'll down 4 of em tonight and see what happens before I decide its garbage.

 

[Blkhrt]

Its not always about that bro. Sometimes when a company has a good track record of their oils being clean and never having floaties or being filtered in a certain way or having dosage within a certain smaller tolerance than other UGLs, the machinery can be more expensive, hence the higher than average cost. It is up to the consumer to decide if the price rise is worth it and if those improvement or benefits are tangible or even real, but to say its totally because consumers think the raws are better, thats a bit silly. Thats one of the last things I'd think if I saw higher than normal test cost.

Thanks for the reply. You are absolutely right. If a lab has created and maintained a quality brand they should definitely charge a market premium.

 

[Blkhrt]

Well Mission levitra is a bust. Took two of em and felt nothing. I'll down 4 of em tonight and see what happens before I decide its garbage.

I would recommend overseas EU pharm for any ancillary products. you get big name brands like Pfizer and Bayer for reasonable prices. I always avoid domestic UGL for any ancillaries, and I wouldn't risk Indian pharma either. I've had the best luck with those kinds of meds name brand from turkey, Italy, France etc

 

[Apexvallen]

I think I'm going to from now on. All the pressed anciliaries just seem so weak! I know pharma is always stronger, but 10:1? Really. ugh. Live and learn I guess. I'm going to get cialis raws and cap it myself, Im sick of fuckin around.

 

[CdnGuy]

In fact, the older you are and the longer ago you started using gear, the more likely you are into some dumb shit. These guys keep doing the same thing they did back in college in 93 and they think they know their shit when they are just plain dumb and wrong.

Disagree 100% trial and error son trial and error. Now if something does work and you continue to do the same thing. WeLloyd that's the definition of insane person. Any Vet or "old timer" here know their stuff man and don't do "dumb shit" or hand out bad advice. Why? Cuz they have the experience.
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Edit- I could say your post is the perfect example of young guys who don't think before they speak and shit just pours from their mouthes

 

[Blkhrt]

I think I'm going to from now on. All the pressed anciliaries just seem so weak! I know pharma is always stronger, but 10:1? Really. ugh. Live and learn I guess. I'm going to get cialis raws and cap it myself, Im sick of fuckin around.

Be careful. Raws of ancillieraries are notoriously weak. Not saying all are but a disproportionate amount seem to be judging by user reports. I will buy raw hormones no problem but unless I have access to gc/ms testing I will buy pharma ancillieraries. Just gotta be sure you aren't getting fakes but I figure faking Aromasin or Viagra isn't much of a money maker.

 

[Dimentio]

No wonder why you were getting all butt hurt when I was talking bad about Missions.lol Clear as day now fanboy

Stfu troll. I looked through multiple source lists and mission happened to be the only one with it. I've said it before, I've never used their products

 

[Blkhrt]

Disagree 100% trial and error son trial and error. Now if something does work and you continue to do the same thing. WeLloyd that's the definition of insane person. Any Vet or "old timer" here know their stuff man and don't do "dumb shit" or hand out bad advice. Why? Cuz they have the experience....

Man, if a respected vet here tells me they autoclave finished vials
Or that test prop holds less water than cyp, they go straight into dumbass category. I've read a lot of simply untrue dumb shit by purported to be vets all over the web and heard IRL. I respect your accomplishments. But like I said these ppl succeed despite their fucke up interpretations of basic concepts.

 

[CdnGuy]

Stfu troll. I looked through multiple source lists and mission happened to be the only one with it. I've said it before, I've never used their products

Feelings still hurt I see

 

[CdnGuy]

Man, if a respected vet here tells me they autoclave finished vials
Or that test prop holds less water than cyp, they go straight into dumbass category. I've read a lot of simply untrue dumb shit by purported to be vets all over the web and heard IRL. I respect your accomplishments. But like I said these ppl succeed despite their fucke up interpretations of basic concepts.

Are you comparing CJM to Meso ? lol That's funny man

 

[Dimentio]

Feeling still hurt I see

My feelings were never hurt, grow up

 

[CdnGuy]

My feelings were never hurt, grow up

Ok good day sir

 

[Apexvallen]

drugsgear is restickering pharmacom gear? lol wtf

 

[CdnGuy]

drugsgear is restickering pharmacom gear? lol wtf

Brother that's really old news. That guy has been a PC reseller for a while now.

 

[Blkhrt]

Are you comparing CJM to Meso ? lol That's funny man

There's many dumb people there and there are many dumb here. Cjm has meso best by a long yard though. At least meso is entertaining

 

[CdnGuy]

There's many dumb people there and there are many dumb here. Cjm has meso best by a long yard though. At least meso is entertaining

Of course there is idiots on every single online fourm out there. I'm referring to you speaking about vets or "old timers". Please do not paint all Vets with the same brush because Meso is not CJM.

 

[Cownan]

There's many dumb people there and there are many dumb here. Cjm has meso best by a long yard though. At least meso is entertaining

This is actually quite insulting. There are a ton of people here with way more knowledge than the broscience you see on CJM. Not taking anything away form the few members on CJM who know what theyre talking about but the ratio is definitely on mesos side for those who are more knowledgeable. Not only that but meso is an open forum to everything where with CJM it is moderated and anything said is delted and usually the OP is banned.

There are dumb fucks on every forum. You seem to be digging a hole yourself as nothing you said holds an ounce of water

As for gear I dont care if I pay 35$ or 60$. If the gear is good and customer service is on point then thats all that matters. I understand that these labs that charge premium do so for a few reasons. First off its illegal. Second they have to cover machine costs, rent of lab, oils, raws, raws that are seized im sure are factored in, resending of items that are damaged or no good, staff and then the freebies that are given to reps. Im also sure that every batch of oil the make isnt perfect so the good ones eat the loss and toss the whole batch (or at least I hope they do).

So go back to cjm if you like it there so much and talk about your 35$ vials on a forum that is run by the most expensive lab out there...... Newport

 

[Apexvallen]

Brother that's really old news. That guy has been a PC reseller for a while now.

I know but my point is that hes putting on his own labels... doesnt that seem weird to anyone.