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A'ight so I did my first cycle ever at 32 and went for turi. I got it from a lab here in canada which I won't mention not to sound like a commercial poster/spammer. It seemed like good quality, and was. Rather than going for the needle I tried oral.

What I noticed though is that although Turinabol is not supposed to cause heavy hair loss it was rather significant. I'm thinking this might have to do with the heavy metal in the green dye that was mixed along the pill.

So I've been looking at some sources for raw powder but all the labs that sounded clean and had decent prices are <<over the ocean>> and request money gram transfer So before I start coughing up cash for something that may never show up, I'm looking for a trust worthy source. Don't have much time to invest in the gym now so if you have any interesting informations I'm willing to evaluate the potential of it.

What ticked me off with those places was the fact they apparently had certificates and everything looked professional. It was just too good to be true and I noticed it's impossible to get a refund with moneygram and western union, not to mention that even if they're honest, anyone in the world could just walk in an office and take the money just by mentioning the name, and flashing fake id.

Gains were good with the oral Turinabol though and I also bought anavar, which I tossed to one of my coworker and he had good cutting results. Thought I'd tell.

Thanks for having such a (canuck) thread. Again, I know <<requesting for raw sources>> is shunned upon and I'm not looking to be a big shot/ make money with this, my goal is to save money and my hair line. Thanks!
 
And speaking of solutions for the liver, I also found that fo-ti&He Shu Wu is very good to stimulate/ clean that organ. If you're not keen on trying chinese medecine, Apple cider vinegar( with <<mother>> into it) and sesame oil are really good at keeping that functional too. Whether it's on/off cycle, it's also really good to blast away the fat and also prevent the liver from being damaged, not to mention the kidneys. etc. Again, no brands mentioned because it all varies on what's available where you shop!
 
@Apexvallen appreciate the advice. Have done tones of research online just haven't talked to any one personally. My next choice was test c. Low dose is what I would want to do. Also I would want to go on and stay on. Not cycle on and off.
Wow, you want to be on TRT for the rest of your life? At 23? Sorry bro this is starting to get a bit reckless. You realise that this will adversely affect your ability to father children right?

@Apexvallen what would you recommend for controlling estrogen?
Aromasin is what most people use. If you can't get that arimidex can work well but aromasin is your best bet.

I'm going to bow out here though. If you want to start self administering TRT at the age of 23, thats your choice, but I want nothing to do with it. Good luck with everything.
 
@Apexvallen appreciate the advice. Have done tones of research online just haven't talked to any one personally. My next choice was test c. Low dose is what I would want to do. Also I would want to go on and stay on. Not cycle on and off.


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Please dont be the user that drinks on weekends and smoke cigaretes..: if your goin to not be serious of bodybuilding forever and you have goals ext dont use... You know theres big risks involved
 
150mg of test e or c, twice a week, then do 10 weeks of hard training, then do a proper pct, with both clomid and nolva and then check my test levels after that.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
 
150mg of test e or c, twice a week, then do 10 weeks of hard training, then do a proper pct, with both clomid and nolva and then check my test levels after that.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Welcome to Meso fellow Canuck. I do have some thoughts and friendly advice. Slow down! ;) I understand you are excited and motivated but one thing at a time brother. Before you even consider using Aas you must start researching and learning here. Begginers cycles, compounds(Aas), PCT and serms to begin with. If you don't learn and prepare yourself precycle you are looking at some potentially big health risks. Your 23 so don't rush it brother gain as much knowledge before pulling the trigger. Trust me :) GL and if you have any questions fire away. But remember we don't spoon feed on Meso gotta hit the books :D
 
@CdnGuy thanks man. I could see how it may seem like im rushing it, but im not. I have found what i think to be a good source, but i haven't ordered anything yet. Have done reading myself and watched videos but was getting mixed opinions. Thats why I came on here to ask you guys directly. Any suggestions on some quality information that I could read/watch?
 
@CdnGuy thanks man. I could see how it may seem like im rushing it, but im not. I have found what i think to be a good source, but i haven't ordered anything yet. Have done reading myself and watched videos but was getting mixed opinions. Thats why I came on here to ask you guys directly. Any suggestions on some quality information that I could read/watch?
If you plan to cycle make shure you get pct before first pin..i would get 10 000 ih hcg too
 
@CdnGuy thanks man. I could see how it may seem like im rushing it, but im not. I have found what i think to be a good source, but i haven't ordered anything yet. Have done reading myself and watched videos but was getting mixed opinions. Thats why I came on here to ask you guys directly. Any suggestions on some quality information that I could read/watch?
You're not rushing, but a day ago you said you wanted pin test for the rest of your life at the age of 23 before you had even done your first cycle?








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@Apexvallen Thats just because the info i got is that once you go on its best to stay on, but apparently thats not correct. Turning 24 right away, was planing on it being my gift to myself ha. But i want to do it right.

Being on TRT is a curse man. Not a gift. I started gear when I was 21. I can tell you that now, 15 years later, I regret it. If you don't need it then wait. Proper diet, sleep and training can get you some sick gains. The ramifications of never coming off at your age are huge. My endocrine system is fucked and now I suffer low T. But not enough to do TRT and just enough to know that it does affect my life. I tough it out and when I do cycle I feel great again. When I don't I suffer. But I want to live as long as I can. So I would really take a lot of the advice given here seriously and IMO do not do any anabolics until you're at least 30.

Just my .02
 
@Cownan interesting. So do you not want to stay on test year round even at a low dose because it will shorten your lifespan? I recently watched a video from George Leeman and he says to go on and stay on. But you guys say if making the choice to take gear best is to cycle on and off. This is why I get confused.

Link to the video.
 
So a thousand members on here, some who have been using AAS for years, have told you to cycle properly, but some fat slob on youtube tells you otherwise and now you don't know which way to go? Are you serious?
 
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