Canadians talk domestic

[Devil3]

in all of my posts on this subject so far I haven't even speculated about HG being bunk, just UGL counterfeited to appear HG. I also think it has almost nothing to do with whether or not a source is trustworthy, especially where the canadian UGL is ordering the "HG" gear from the same overseas sources available to us, but perhaps at a discount since they're ordering in larger quantities and definitely adding markup since it's now passed customs. Many years ago a respected UGL (one of the few who has tens of pages of praise on CJM) told me (and other customers) that he had counterfeit HG gear which he bought unknowingly but is confident that they possess the actual ingredients but produced by an overseas UGL (ie counterfeit but he was being honest with us about it). He didn't realize this until the product arrived and some may not have realized it regardless. If it's Canadian HG gear then I'd say more likely it's real since it's probably easier for the Canadian UGL to verify it but overseas HG - how would your domestic UGL know that its not counterfeit (unless they personally know the overseas pharmacy it originates from).

The issue with counterfeit HG is that when you pay for HG you expect actual HG not UGL.

I have no dog in this debate, just sharing my opinion which I sorta feel strongly about since I've had no shortage of personal experience with it.

Keeping my responses short now since you just assume things and aren't understanding.

My source isn't a "UGL source", although he can provide them like many other sources, I've never asked.

When I pay for blue hearts, I expect the counterfeit because real ones from March are unicorns and glitter.

Stay true to yourself.

 

[Devil3]

how do you know it's not just UGL stuff replicated to appear like pharm grade?

That was your concern. I'm aware. I'm saying if you're source is a source that is known for providing than give them the benefit of the doubt.

Some source somewhere has to have the real deal, right? If you have any doubts in yours, don't use it. I don't have doubts in any of mine.

Ps I referenced both HG and pharma because both can be, and are counterfeited.

 

[Ackmud]

Keeping my responses short now since you just assume things and aren't understanding.

I'm not understanding because you're saying conflicting things- starting with how pharma is great for peace of mind, sterility, quality and only way of knowing it's dosed 100% accurate, and that one shouldn't be worried about pharma being fake because most often they're counterfeited instead of bunk, like blue hearts.

Well when they're counterfeited they're no longer pharm grade it's UGL, and no longer has that peace of mind, dosing, quality etc. That's my only point in this.

 

[Devil3]

I'm not understanding because you're saying conflicting things- starting with how pharma is great for peace of mind, sterility, quality and only way of knowing it's dosed 100% accurate, and that one shouldn't be worried about pharma being fake because most often they're counterfeited instead of bunk, like blue hearts.

Well when they're counterfeited they're no longer pharm grade it's UGL, and no longer has that peace of mind, dosing, quality etc. That's my only point in this.

Well I have to agree with you when you say that, because saying a counterfeit pharma product would make it a UGL.

And my main point was only to address the fact that somebody somewhere, has access to pharma. Somebody being a source. If you are the person who has that source, than you are getting legit pharma, resulting with you having the peace of mind etc that I mentioned as the benefits.

You just threw a curveball to my statement about the benefits of real pharma for your own agenda which started a whole new topic of pharma being faked. Lol. I was merely stating the benefits of real pharma, which are the reasons people vouche for it.

I was just making a point that usually when pharma brand items are "faked" they're not bunk or placebos, but just counterfeited aka UGL like you referred to, which is RIGHT in that sense lol. I think we're just making separate legitimate points and pointlessly putting them against each other. As I agree with your statement.

 

[Devil3]

I'll also add that OF COURSE there is always that chance of your source being completely oblivious to what he/she is getting and providing it to you thinking it's legitimate. That happens all the time. But, when the person has a clear trail to the pharmacy, and they know it, there isn't any doubt.

But the end user like ourselves are usually clueless as well unless you are the one grabbing personally from the pharm, which you've also made reference to.

 

[Ackmud]

also I agree on the advantages of pharm grade, for example when I was in Mexico recently I gladly paid $16/cc of test enanthate 250, because I was getting it from the pharmacy myself. I only got 4 cc's since I was there for one week and didn't want to risk smuggling more back with me. But if a local source was selling the same for even $13/cc I would probably shy away from it just out of skepticism lol and just buy their own brand for less, that's just me though.

 

[Devil3]

I can get pharm test for a decent price. Inflated, but still affordable. I also have no problem adding .1-.2cc to my shots of UGL if I'm ever feeling doubtful lol.

 

[Leangains4life]

Stop complicating things.. If u buy mission or neewport or nordic or pareto or we cnd ugl get there ancilaries there good to go

 

[Devil3]

Stop complicating things.. If u buy mission or neewport or nordic or pareto or we cnd ugl get there ancilaries there good to go

....waking up for a pee break...

Fully admit I was rambling 98.9% asleep earlier.

That u in ur avi?! Ha..ha..back to sleep. Need to build muscle.

Ps. Same team on the UGL pct items. I use them. They work great.

 

[Munky]

They distributed 140million needles last year in my city alone they throw them all over the parks in my gang infested neighborhood

 

[Jak3d]

Stop complicating things.. If u buy mission or neewport or nordic or pareto or we cnd ugl get there ancilaries there good to go

That was pretty much my question lol I'll give them a shot.

 

[Cownan]

Yeah man. All those labs are solid. Top 4 for what I know of personally.

 

[cflow69]

The main purpose of the needle exchange program is to keep people from exchanging needles and spreading HIV or Hep C and mainly for those that cant pay for them. Lets be happy they have this program for people like that. Needles are cheap guys if you can buy steroids than you sure as fuck can go buy some. Just my rant for today

IDA PHARMACY in scarborougg ..25 cents a peace

 

[Jak3d]

IDA PHARMACY in scarborougg ..25 cents a peace

Damn that's cheap, where in Scarborough?

 

[cflow69]

Theres one on don mills rd just north of mcnicole and just south of steeles ..but they only carry the 1 inch ..im fairly lean so its good enough for me

 

[Jak3d]

Perfect I'm not too far from there

 

[Hotrods12]

IDA PHARMACY in scarborougg ..25 cents a peace

Thats my point, they are cheap, leave the program for the less fortunate

 

[Johnybgood]

Has anyone here used LifeLabs for blood work? If so what tests do you ask for? Just full blood panel?

 

[Jak3d]

Has anyone here used LifeLabs for blood work? If so what tests do you ask for? Just full blood panel?

You can't just got in there and ask for blood work. You need a requisition from your doctor

 

[Riz]

Has anyone here used LifeLabs for blood work? If so what tests do you ask for? Just full blood panel?

Just go to any walk-in clinic and tell the doctor you want full blood work done including testosterone levels and estrogen. Some clinics have staff on sight that can do blood work or some will refer you to another local place.