Cemproducts, RUI, Cem-meso cia and varden is garbage

[hunterbro]

I've used Cem Products for years. Always spot on. They're a little expensive but who cares if they're reliable. Well.... as with all good things... they've gone to shit. About six months ago I ordered and the usual bottle had changed slightly. In my opinion, the potency had decreased by about half. I emailed them and no reply. A little time passes I order again and try their Varden and another Cia and both were shit. I figured things happen, maybe a bad batch of raw or something, who knows. They're solid so give it some time. Another 6 weeks order cia again and this time the consistency, taste, and potency is different. Zero affect. Nothing. The bitter taste, tastes like their junk Varden now instead of the usual sweet. No white in the bottom of the cia bottle to shake up either. If they've been producing quality product for years, then suddenly don't produce quality product, then as far as I'm concerned, it's purposeful. And with that the word scammer comes to mind. Beware guys.

I'm on the hunt for a new cia supplier. If anyone knows anyone, pm me.

 

[Dw725]

I've used Cem Products for years. Always spot on. They're a little expensive but who cares if they're reliable. Well.... as with all good things... they've gone to shit. About six months ago I ordered and the usual bottle had changed slightly. In my opinion, the potency had decreased by about half. I emailed them and no reply. A little time passes I order again and try their Varden and another Cia and both were shit. I figured things happen, maybe a bad batch of raw or something, who knows. They're solid so give it some time. Another 6 weeks order cia again and this time the consistency, taste, and potency is different. Zero affect. Nothing. The bitter taste, tastes like their junk Varden now instead of the usual sweet. No white in the bottom of the cia bottle to shake up either. If they've been producing quality product for years, then suddenly don't produce quality product, then as far as I'm concerned, it's purposeful. And with that the word scammer comes to mind. Beware guys.

I'm on the hunt for a new cia supplier. If anyone knows anyone, pm me.

If youre looking for Cialis, I dont think there's a source in the underground that DOESNT sell it anymore.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Buy the raws and make it yourself for about 1/4 the cost. It’s as easy as making kool-aid!

 

[hunterbro]

The liquid was nice because i don't hit it hard, I only use a maintenance dose

 

[MCFC]

Most if not all of the underground and research chems cialis and viagra are underdosed when compared to actual pharmaceutical grade IME and I've tried MANY. Sometimes you'll get a good batch but still not as labeled. You just have to choose the one you feel is the most reliable.

To be honest I don't complain when you compare the cost of the alternative vs the cost of pharma.

 

[Test_Subject]

Why not just buy cialis raws and cap them?

Raw cialis is like 50c a gram and you can pick your exact dose that way.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Or make a liquid suspension with Ora-Plus.

 

[hunterbro]

Never went the homebrew route but I've begun looking into it thanks to the suggestions here.

 

[hunterbro]

tadalafil raw is not an easy one apparently.

 

[CAswole]

I've used cem-meso consistently for years for cia. Never let me down yet, not once. Of course it could happen but they've always been solid imo

 

[hunterbro]

I've used cem-meso consistently for years for cia. Never let me down yet, not once. Of course it could happen but they've always been solid imo

Exactly what I'm saying. I've used them for over 5 years and I've never once had a complaint like so many other people do with other sources. No drama stories. Even dosing was spot on. Order some now though and you'll see what I mean. It's a damn shame that a LONG time trusted source goes scammer.

 

[CAswole]

Exactly what I'm saying. I've used them for over 5 years and I've never once had a complaint like so many other people do with other sources. No drama stories. Even dosing was spot on. Order some now though and you'll see what I mean. It's a damn shame that a LONG time trusted source goes scammer.

Actually just got some the other day. Same as always . sorry u had a bad experience

 

[rpbb]

Been using their tadalafil and arimidex for years, no problems. Just got some a few weeks to replace some fake shit I got from pharmasource, and could definitely tell the difference

 

[hunterbro]

Actually just got some the other day. Same as always . sorry u had a bad experience

wow. That really suprises me. The stuff I got was in a much shinier bottle. The suspension was different and instead of sweet, it was bitter. Totally different product. Your word is good to me. I'll say they're "selective scammers" from now on. I don't post on here much but I was so blown away that they could be so good for so long and then suddenly start down the road of scamming that I had to post something.

 

[CAswole]

wow. That really suprises me. The stuff I got was in a much shinier bottle. The suspension was different and instead of sweet, it was bitter. Totally different product. Your word is good to me. I'll say they're "selective scammers" from now on. I don't post on here much but I was so blown away that they could be so good for so long and then suddenly start down the road of scamming that I had to post something.

I think scamming is a bit of a stretch. More like bad batch. Gotta remember they're not making this stuff in the Bayer factory ya know.

 

[hunterbro]

I think scamming is a bit of a stretch. More like bad batch. Gotta remember they're not making this stuff in the Bayer factory ya know.

I'd normally agree with you but bad batch doesn't happen over a 6 month period. At least I wouldn't think so. And then to add in your story about good product combined with a few orders now of bad product I've gotten. Idk. Seems fishy to me. And after 20 years in this business, I've seen alot of coincidence that didn't turn out to be coincidence. To each his own though. Thanks for adding a page to this strange story.

 

[wedorecover]

The cia i make is no joke better then pharma

 

[hunterbro]

Let me add fitfugitives.com to the companion sites of cemproducts and rui. Just got a notice of yet another sale of garbage products.

 

[Juced]

Probably different owners now..... just saying... why? I unoo... but take it in.
I dont see the activity on forums like before. maybe something changed. I still have cem/rui stock from years ago that still seems to work, its starting to run out now finally ha.
Havent used anything in the last years from them...

 

[protonJava]

Haven’t used either for dick pills but have other items. And I can say they’ve gone to hell.