Clen/t3 and xanax

[Urrsher]

I want to start taking clen and t3: 80mcg, 50 mcg respectively before bed everynight. I currently take .5-1mg of xanax every night to sleep (makes it easy to sleep on gear like a baby). I'm extremely sensitive to stimulants.
My question is, will taking xanax along with the clen and t3 somehow disrupt their metabolic pathway? Meaning will they not preform to their fullest potential if I manage to get a good night's rest?
I was hoping the thermogenic properties would still remain in effect and I would be able to just sleep through the inconvenient feelings.
I'm hoping that I don't have to suffer through 100% of the sides associated those stimulants in order to reap the benefits. I really don't want to give up my xanax.

 

[movingiron88]

@franchise24 @hurricane and all you other badasses. Thank you for your service. You are what makes this country the greatest and strongest nation on earth. Badasses like you willing to lay your life on the line and if not have to deal with the scars that were left behind. Much respect!

 

[Erin]

I didn't really want to get into the details of my xanax use as I presented a pretty striaghtforward question but I'll bite. I have been diagnosed with insomnia since my teenage years. I've tried various other sleep medications to no avail. Those are all great but with a medication intended for sleep you NEED 6 or so hours atleast if you're going to take it. If you don't get those hours you feel like a truck hit you when you wake up and to be honest it's safer driving drunk than being as tired as I've been sometimes waking up going to work. I work 7 days a weeks with erratic hours sometimes I get 5 hours of sleep sometimes 2 sometimes 8 but when I take xanax i fall asleep immediately and wake up refreshed. That being said I ONLY take xanax on cycle as I'm taking tren atm and my gains have been nothing short of stellar. An intense training regime coupled with good sleep is the perfect environment for building an amazing physique.
Off cycle I do not take xanax. Xanax is not my drug of choice and I take it only to relax me, lower my blood pressure and facilitate a good night's sleep. As far as withdrawls go, this is not my first rodeo and I'm not abusing the drug. So please take your psycho analysis and shove it far far up your ass. Thanks for your input.

To summarize, you are taking a cattle steroid not approved for use in humans, suffering the expected side effects, and self-medicating with one of the most powerful depressants available.

And now you want to add stimulants.

Having been diagnosed with insomnia makes this worse, because:
1) You know that Xanax hasn't been indicated to treat insomnia for decades.
2) You know that adding stimulants will make it impossible to sleep without a powerful depressant.
3) You know that eventual benzo withdrawal will make it much harder to treat your insomnia.


You're welcome to use in this way, but it is the definition of abuse. You should accept that when posting here.

To be constructive, I'll add that as a fellow insomnia-sufferer, I've taken albuterol. I don't recommend it. And clen would be much worse.

Enjoy your addiction to benzos and your worsening insomnia.

 

[Urrsher]

To summarize, you are taking a cattle steroid not approved for use in humans, suffering the expected side effects, and self-medicating with one of the most powerful depressants available.

And now you want to add stimulants.

Having been diagnosed with insomnia makes this worse, because:
1) You know that Xanax hasn't been indicated to treat insomnia for decades.
2) You know that adding stimulants will make it impossible to sleep without a powerful depressant.
3) You know that eventual benzo withdrawal will make it much harder to treat your insomnia.


You're welcome to use in this way, but it is the definition of abuse. You should accept that when posting here.

To be constructive, I'll add that as a fellow insomnia-sufferer, I've taken albuterol. I don't recommend it. And clen would be much worse.

Enjoy your addiction to benzos and your worsening insomnia.

Thank you this was a very constructive post. I found it useful. I don't get why people say benzo withdrawl is so bad.. about 3 years ago I was taking my prescription 2mg per day and switched doctors and the new kaiser doc didn't give me any. I was on that prescription for about 8 months and stopped myself. To be 100% honest alcohol was MUCH harder to kick and is a struggle even today. Xanax was a cake walk in comparision. But to each his own

 

[Thinkbig]

Thank you this was a very constructive post. I found it useful. I don't get why people say benzo withdrawl is so bad.. about 3 years ago I was taking my prescription 2mg per day and switched doctors and the new kaiser doc didn't give me any. I was on that prescription for about 8 months and stopped myself. To be 100% honest alcohol was MUCH harder to kick and is a struggle even today. Xanax was a cake walk in comparision. But to each his own

Benzo withdrawl caused me to seize and be instutionalized. My understanding is Alchohol and Benzos are the only drugs where the withdrawal can actually kill you. I was put on barbiturates to stop seizing during the accuse withdrawl period and now stay active in recovery which is how I stay sober.

 

[Urrsher]

Benzo withdrawl caused me to seize and be instutionalized. My understanding is Alchohol and Benzos are the only drugs where the withdrawal can actually kill you. I was put on barbiturates to stop seizing during the accuse withdrawl period and now stay active in recovery which is how I stay sober.

Yeah bro alcohol did the same thing to me, barely made it to the hospital, so many IVs.
Think of supplementing with exogenous testosterone when I give this example.
So the basic biology behind withdrawl of benozos and alcohol is relatively simple. Your body naturally produces a chemical which suppresses your brain function. A naturally produced depressant/suppressant. When you continously supplement with alcohol or benzos, both depressants, over a long period of time, your body will eventually stop producing the chemical it naturally produced to inhibit brain activity. Now when you suddenly stop taking those exogenous suppressants (alcohol or benzos) your body is still not producing it's own depressant and this leads to your brain going into an insane overdrive. You will experience horrific anxiety, alertness, you will hear small sounds, lights will hurt you, you will sweat, etc. Because of this overdrive state in your mind you will be at a much much higher risk of an aneurysm or stroke. So you don't get an aneurysm the docs will give you anti seizure medication due to the extremely high level of brain activity.
It's similar in certain aspects to supplementing with exogenous test, you do it long enough your body will stop making its own.

But yeah that's why those two have dangerous withdrawls and can kill you.

Edit: only reason I said I dont understand the severity of benzo withdrawl is because I cant relate. At 2mg per day I still got off it fine but that was most likely beacuse I used alcohol after, and alcohol and xanax work on the same receptors! Lol

Anyways my mind is made up and any argument against it at this point is futile. Im going to try clen/t3 at lower doses without xanax and see from there.

 

[franchise24]

@franchise24 @hurricane and all you other badasses. Thank you for your service. You are what makes this country the greatest and strongest nation on earth. Badasses like you willing to lay your life on the line and if not have to deal with the scars that were left behind. Much respect!

You're welcome. And thank you. I appreciate that you recognize the sacrifice that our service members make. That appreciation means a lot to vets that served.

 

[hurricane]

Thank you. I hope you got some sleep. While I am not a vet nor do I have PTSD. I do have major depressive disorder and have been on psychmeds since I was 18. I got sober when I turned 30 and spent time in psychwards and became familiar with all sorts of mental illnesses. They are not a joke and do NOT mean you or anyone has weak will power. This stuff is all biological. Period. I have to be careful with AAS as they especially tren and masteron can aggravate anxiety and anger. If it were not for the fact I am on antidepressants, I do not think my relationships could handle me on those two. Anyway, hope you have a good day. If anyone reads this thread. I hope they know they are not alone and they can get better. Unfortunately the path to recovery from mental illness or addiction is SLOW. VERY SLOW.

Great post bud. You take care of yourself. And congrats on being sober.

 

[pitbull]

I will answer short and sweet.

CLEN will make sleep much WORSE. It will keep you wide awake after buildup

 

[hurricane]

@franchise24 @hurricane and all you other badasses. Thank you for your service. You are what makes this country the greatest and strongest nation on earth. Badasses like you willing to lay your life on the line and if not have to deal with the scars that were left behind. Much respect!

No need to thank us but your very welcome. Those were very kind words and are greatly appreciated. Every vet on this site would appreciate your post. Talk soon bro.

 

[MindlessWork]

Yes mine is from my doctor. Insurance wont cover the RX. They want me to take adderral as it is much cheaper. This would ignite my addiction and completely ruin my life, so I wont take that. I have found that Costco fills my Rx for about 30 bucks I believe. Problem is when I take Modafinil is makes me anxious and around lunch time I feel pretty crappy, the rest of the day. IT didnt do this the first two months. But now even with taking a month or more off it makes me feel pretty rough.So I rarely take it. I have tried the stuff online as well before I found Costco to fill my rx as it is so dang expensive at my CVS. If you have a good relationship with your doctor ask him or her. What I have found is with regard to doctors, if I am honest they can treat me properly. When I hide crap that's when I get in trouble. Some doctors though are stuck in their ways and wont help regardless. If that is your doctor, then maybe find a new one. Do not get my wrong my doctor wont rx me opiods or anything like that, he will though explore more non conventional things, IE testosterone, an AI, Modafinil etc.

Good man...much respect and stay strong. I myself was battling depression in my early adult years and I turned to weed (and unfortunately booze) to help fight those demons. Took me a good while to admit to my family my problems as I hid the depression from them. Kicked the weed and booze once and for all...had taken some anti-depressants for some time and had counseling. Staying off drugs is hard and it takes willpower so props for what you did.

 

[hurricane]

Good man...much respect and stay strong. I myself was battling depression in my early adult years and I turned to weed (and unfortunately booze) to help fight those demons. Took me a good while to admit to my family my problems as I hid the depression from them. Kicked the weed and booze once and for all...had taken some anti-depressants for some time and had counseling. Staying off drugs is hard and it takes willpower so props for what you did.

Good shit bud.

 

[Balanor]

Yup. Only us vets would be up at these hours. Hope all is well bro.

Long time lurker, but wanted to thank you for your service bro. I have a real soft spot for all our vets that come home and have to deal with every day stress on top of your PTSD. (no homo)

 

[Balanor]

Up for good now. I'm doing pretty good. I went through some good training on recognizing my triggers and exposure training. But it doesn't help with sleep. This is the new norm for us. Usually I can get a few hours of sleep during the day.

Like I told Hurricane, long time lurker here.. but felt the need to thank you for your service and I hope your PTSD continues to become manageable to the point where your issues are few and far between.

 

[hurricane]

Long time lurker, but wanted to thank you for your service bro. I have a real soft spot for all our vets that come home and have to deal with every day stress on top of your PTSD. (no homo)

Just wanted to say thank you for taking time out of your day to acknowledge us veterans who struggle with physical and emotional issues on a daily basis. From all the vets on this site we thank you.

 

[Leonard Washington]

I'm not in the military but I was diagnosed with ptsd by a psychiatrist. I worked in hospitals and funeral Homes removing human tissue from donors. I would be on call all night and would be warned if I didn't answer my phone I would be fired (worked for shitty people) I occasionally jump out of my sleep when I can sleep. It's almost like I wasn't breathing cause I will grasp for air when I do it which is weird. I would go days without sleeping cause I would have class in the morning and be up all night driving and doing cases. I turned down the xanax and adderall but I'm glad I know what the hell im dealing with cause it's def not normal. thank y'all for yalls service! My advice to the OP try to keep the least amount of drugs in you because everything comes with a side effect.

 

[Roco Bama]

Yes mine is from my doctor. Insurance wont cover the RX. They want me to take adderral as it is much cheaper. This would ignite my addiction and completely ruin my life, so I wont take that. I have found that Costco fills my Rx for about 30 bucks I believe. Problem is when I take Modafinil is makes me anxious and around lunch time I feel pretty crappy, the rest of the day. IT didnt do this the first two months. But now even with taking a month or more off it makes me feel pretty rough.So I rarely take it. I have tried the stuff online as well before I found Costco to fill my rx as it is so dang expensive at my CVS. If you have a good relationship with your doctor ask him or her. What I have found is with regard to doctors, if I am honest they can treat me properly. When I hide crap that's when I get in trouble. Some doctors though are stuck in their ways and wont help regardless. If that is your doctor, then maybe find a new one. Do not get my wrong my doctor wont rx me opiods or anything like that, he will though explore more non conventional things, IE testosterone, an AI, Modafinil etc.

Costco fills modafinil for $30 ?? I was prescribed modafinil for excessive tiredness/fatigue but a month supply was $800.
I've been struggling with fatigue since I was 15. I had bad anxiety and depression age 14-17 that resulted from family problems and school which I believe caused the fatigue. I haven't had major depression or anxiety ever since adolescent but I still struggle with fatigue and lack of energy. Why are you coming off anti-depressant meds ? Did you ever suffer from fatigue ? Im thinking about experimenting some anti-depressant meds to find a cure for my condition.

 

[Thinkbig]

Costco fills modafinil for $30 ?? I was prescribed modafinil for excessive tiredness/fatigue but a month supply was $800.
I've been struggling with fatigue since I was 15. I had bad anxiety and depression age 14-17 that resulted from family problems and school which I believe caused the fatigue. I haven't had major depression or anxiety ever since adolescent but I still struggle with fatigue and lack of energy. Why are you coming off anti-depressant meds ? Did you ever suffer from fatigue ? Im thinking about experimenting some anti-depressant meds to find a cure for my condition.

Yes Costco has there med for cheap.Ive been on antidepressants for 16 years. I won't be coming off them. Honestly antidepressants help, but they are only part of the solution, the other part is therapy. If you have mental illness as I do, both are crucail. Yes I've suffered fatigue. That is common with depression. Please get help from a real doctor, do not play doctor with psychmeds. Remember your brain is an organ like all others. Would to play doctor on yourself if you needed dialysis?

 

[Redrum42]

I hate that I have to be this guy ever time I see "benzos are the answer" type shit.

For years I used to shoot heroin. I used to smoke crack. And let me you, benzos took me further down in 6 months than shooting speedballs took me in 3 years. I don't care if you take it by the book 100% of the time and never abuse it, low dose, "doctor approved", doesn't matter.

The withdrawals can cause seizures, permanent brain damage, and DEATH. Much like alcohol. However unlike alcohol, you can get physically hooked on benzos in a matter of weeks. People who are on for even a year often spend DECADES to be back to 100%. I would recommend you snorting oxy before I'd ever recommend benzos. I'm serious guys. Google some benzo withdrawal horror stories. Don't fuck around. Take trazadone or seroquel instead at night, if you have absolutely horrible acute anxiety attacks, get beta blockers.

OP, go to Detox, today. Every dose you take corrodes your brain a little more. The longer youre on the longer recovery takes. Don't try to cold turkey!! This is your day to turn shit aeound my man. Eventually they will stop working and they will turn on you. Please get help. I'm sure this came off very rude but I don't think you realize what you've gotten into. Please PM me if you need any advice.