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[Millard]

Completely understand that sir. But imo there's a difference between a customer shilling and active members here that are repping. PC reps are mixing in many regular members threads. Giving advice and acting like an innocent member. Is that not being deceitful sir?

Of course, there is a difference. But see the last statement I added to my previous post before you replied:

"I believe rules should be applied consistently if applied at all."

The rules make no distinction as currently written.

 

[Sampei]

Again I would like anyone to bring me real proof about my bias towards pharmacom.

Please go on my history and search my posts. Start quoting in the last 6 months where I "defended" "shilled" or said anything that wasn't backed up by facts or solid proof.

I'm pretty sure you will not find any. I have challenged idiocy and retardiness regarding ppl bashing pharmacom just because it's the only source I use for AAS and I don't read any other source thread mostly. If I would have read stupid accusation to a source on other thread I would have challenged it as well.

Source need to be held accountable and to be challenged anytime we feel something bad is going on. This doesn't mean to start stupid rant that make no sense, with speculation that even a fucking 5 years old child would laugh at it.


Even on the vials of NPP of Luca what I kept saying was: let's wait for simec results. We can't draw conclusion without evidence, solid one. Mostly called: lab result.

I mean ppl just to not accept the reality came with the idea that SIMEC Has been bought by pharmacom. I mean.... You are telling me I talk out of my ass?
Please guys... I'm not the one out of reality.

 

[Sampei]

So what? Does that mean we should just ignore it and let Meso turn into a free-for-all because some WKMs got away with something?

Not in my opinion. You want consistency then start with yourself. Don't use others as an excuse to say fuck it. I certainly don't.

As an excuse? I have always followed the rules here. Never stepped out of the line once. Sorry but the problem here is not me.

I use meso only to learn stuff about AAS. The only source I use are pharmacist and pharmacom and both know me from long
Time before joining meso.

So I have brought consistency, but I'm a drop of water in the ocean. I believe I can surely say fuck it seeing how things go here most of the time.

And it's a methaphorically fuck it, because in reality I'm still behaving like everyone should and I try to keep myself out of all these source rep and stuff that goes on all the time.

 

[CdnGuy]

"(6) Members must disclose any affiliation with vendors discussed in the "Steroid Underground" for which they receive, or expect to receive, compensation."

I believe rules should be applied consistently if applied at all.

I'm confused MB...from this rule my understanding would be the 2 PC should have been banned after the truth came out no?
Edit- To be fair and clear I'm not trying to single out PC this goes for all labs here.

 

[Millard]

But imo there's a difference between a customer shilling and active members here that are repping.

This is a good question.

Here is another question to ponder.

There are members who actively attack other sources but would never, ever post a positive review for another source because they are afraid of being labeled a shill and hurting their reputation. But at the same time, they are shilling away sources privately via PM to everyone who asks. Is public shilling or private shilling worse?

 

[CdnGuy]

This is a good question.

Here is another question to ponder.

There are members who actively attack other sources but would never, ever post a positive review for another source because they are afraid of being labeled a shill and hurting their reputation. But at the same time, they are shilling away sources privately via PM to everyone who asks. Is public shilling or private shilling worse?

Great point MB and how ironic @Sampei liked this post. Tbh my take on your point is this. Long as members are happy with their source here they don't get involved. Even when actual concerns are being raised. No disrespect to members because in the bigger picture if they did bite the hand that feeds them. There could be a possibility of real life repercussions.(personal info). But if someone comes here under false pretense and busted...stage left with them imo.
Edit- Not all members do this a few solid members will stand up no matter what.

 

[Sampei]

Great point MB and how ironic @Sampei liked this post. Tbh my take on your point is this. Long as members are happy with their source here they don't get involved. Even when actual concerns are being raised. No disrespect to members because in the bigger picture if they did bite the hand that feeds them. There could be a possibility of real life repercussions.(personal info). But if someone comes here under false pretense and busted...stage left with them imo.

Oh so for you getting involved means coming out with sick crazy conspiracy that would beat the one about 9/11?
Ok if that's the case thanks god not many get involved when problem arise. By the way what problem?

Until today what were the problem with pharmacom?
Luca NPP vial? We are waiting for results, nothing much we can do
Until they come back.

Before that? Few ppl telling gear was underdosed or they didn't feel it? Got sent to simec. Gear was on point. Ppl were probably reverse scamming or whatever.

Bloods came back not as 10x? The rules of 10x has been proved really personal because many ppl don't get 10x even on pharma gear.

So please enlighten me when we as members using pharmacom decided not to get involved when REAL PROBLEM ARISED.

 

[Millard]

"(6) Members must disclose any affiliation with vendors discussed in the "Steroid Underground" for which they receive, or expect to receive, compensation."

I believe rules should be applied consistently if applied at all.

Edit- To be fair and clear I'm not trying to single out PC this goes for all labs here.

That's my point. If the rules are not applied consistently then it's singling out. And for the record, I don't think anyone has ever been banned in the enforcement of this rule.

 

[CdnGuy]

Oh so for you getting involved means coming out with sick crazy conspiracy that would beat the one about 9/11?
Ok if that's the case thanks god not many get involved when problem arise. By the way what problem?

Until today what were the problem with pharmacom?
Luca NPP vial? We are waiting for results, nothing much we can do
Until they come back.

Before that? Few ppl telling gear was underdosed or they didn't feel it? Got sent to simec. Gear was on point. Ppl were probably reverse scamming or whatever.

Bloods came back not as 10x? The rules of 10x has been proved really personal because many ppl don't get 10x even on pharma gear.

So please enlighten me when we as members using pharmacom decided not to get involved when REAL PROBLEM ARISED.

Yes I have made some statements that might be wrong Sampei. But I am just trying to determine reasons for certain events. I've said it's speculation but I speak my mind with honest intention. When Luca's issue started he waited and was very patient. Then after 4 months and no responding contact for 2 wks he voices his complaints. Then Boom hrs later he get's a call?!?! Coincidence? Maybe ...but I'm so sorry I'm just trying to look at that as a intelligent member.
As for you asking me to out members who are just simple customers. Sry man they aren't to blame and have risks involved if they did speak out. I get that, but they also aren't the same ones here publicly blowing that same lab. cough cough

 

[CdnGuy]

That's my point. If the rules are not applied consistently then it's singling out. And for the record, I don't think anyone has ever been banned in the enforcement of this rule.

Hmmmmm ok so since we have the evidence and acknowledgement that PC reps were deceitful. Adding the fact the Main man Darius brushed off the issue they should be the first ones to apply the rule too no ? In turn sending a big message to future labs and their reps.

 

[Eman]

Hmmmmm ok so since we have the evidence and acknowledgement that PC reps were deceitful. Adding the fact the Main man Darius brushed off the issue they should be the first ones to apply the rule too no ? In turn sending a big message to future labs and their reps.

I think it's too late for that and we're getting away from the purpose of this thread, which had a good purpose.

Banning individuals, IE singling them out, isn't going to fix anything IMO.

Disclosure is the aim of this thread and the best course of action IMO. Holding the source accountable is important as well, and said source has a thread here in which to do so.

 

[CdnGuy]

I think it's too late for that and we're getting away from the purpose of this thread, which had a good purpose.

Banning individuals, IE singling them out, isn't going to fix anything IMO.

Disclosure is the aim of this thread and the best course of action IMO. Holding the source accountable is important as well, and said source has a thread here in which to do so.

If you think my questions are getting away from a thread that's all about exposing reps. Not too mention clarification of Meso rules in regards to the point of this thread. Then I'm speechless and my apologies to all! I'm truly sorry for having genuine concern for the current state of the underground. Good night

 

[Eman]

If you think my questions are getting away from a thread that's all about exposing reps. Not too mention clarification of Meso rules in regards to the point of this thread. Then I'm speechless and my apologies to all! I'm truly sorry for having genuine concern for the current state of the underground. Good night

I was only referring to the banning of individuals as opposed to the sources and reps having full disclosure on the subject.

I appreciate your points though.

 

[DedLift]

All this back and forth banter between reps and members is ridiculous. This shit is getting out of hand and getting worse fast. At this point I'd be all about this non source board kicking the sources and their lap dogs to the fuckin curb. A NON SOURCE BOARD it would be for better or worse...

 

[jolter604]

 

[Kash89]

Completely understand that sir. But imo there's a difference between a customer shilling and active members here that are repping. PC reps are mixing in many regular members threads. Giving advice and acting like an innocent member. Is that not being deceitful sir?
edit- And yes their defense will be we never suggest PC gear. But let's be honest PM'ING noobs is likely happening.

In this instance I think its even worst with an active member because people really respect and confined in an wkm or active member. But they are both bias to the fact that they are receiving free gear from said source. So they can both be deceitful on the same scale of things.

 

[Kash89]

This is a good question.

Here is another question to ponder.

There are members who actively attack other sources but would never, ever post a positive review for another source because they are afraid of being labeled a shill and hurting their reputation. But at the same time, they are shilling away sources privately via PM to everyone who asks. Is public shilling or private shilling worse?

I agree and I have been seeing this a lot lately. I understand this is a non moderated board and not a source board but there is no reason to constantly bash a source or people that give their experience of a source. Meso is good for coming too and checking on sources and getting the 411 where you cant get at other boards. If people cant give their opinion or share their experience then whats the point. It is discouraging people to write their views and this can be valuable information and a contribution if it cant help someone find a legit source. I do know it goes both ways because shills are dangerous shit heads but there has to be a median.

 

[Deepwaters1987]

@Sampei are you feeling ok man? Really? You are an intelligent dude from what I've seen. Stubborn fucker like myself but be real. These shills and reps are shady as fuck you know that. Perfect example...this^^^^^^^^ Mr Rep befriended a noob but forgets to mention he's a Rep lol Hence the need for this thread.

@CdnGuy I don't blame you for trying to call me out. Not sure what for exactly or what would give you that vibe except I apparently replied to someone who was a rep. Definitely not a rep but I don't blame you for trying. That's actually one of the reasonshower you're one of the few guys I've come to respect after all the reading I've done on here.

 

[Eman]

@Joedoe

Have you been soliciting members via PM?

 

[Wunderpus]

@Sampei I hope for your personal health and safety I am wrong, but if by some chance Pcom sends your bunk or tainted product either for your use - or I believe I read your lady uses it as well - you may find yourself more sympathetic to our cause. I do not wish this upon you, but I feel your opinions of our "crusade" - as you SO kindly called it - may change.

I'll be here.