Most members can tell the difference between a shill that signs up and starts nut hugging and a member just giving his honest experience for other members.
mands
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mands
Wunderpus your "Crusade" about rep isn't related at all with pharmacom quality. So I don't see the connection.
Rep or not rep a lab can go to shit. That's a reality that we all know. So if I ever get caught in net it's not gonna be the fault of any rep or other ppl. It will be mine or better said it's a risk we all take.
It is, really. A rep will have biased reviews on quality, and we ought to KNOW if the reviewer in question is a rep, or is a regular member. How does it NOT have anything to do with quality? Your delusions to somehow defend your standpoint are astounding. You mitigate the risk of buying bunk/shitty products if the reviews/tests are done by non-biased regular members. I'm not sure what part you're missing.
I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out if you are somehow compensated by Pcom or their affiliates... I'd be shocked if a few others didn't speculate this, as well. Your obvious lack of a moral compass in terms of reps/shills is a glaring attribute of yours, pair that with your grossly combative attitude.... Something doesn't add up.
I don't think Sampei is compensated, I think he's just highly opinionated and doesn't care who likes it. Sampei's greatest attribute has always been his call-it-as-he-sees-it attitude, and that's what he's doing now. I don't agree with him on this issue but don't think it's because he's being compensated.
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH!
Sure I get tons of money from pharmacom. Shit I just bought a Ferrari with the last payroll I got
No, your logic make no sense to me. Tests done by unbiased member? What test lol?
The only test worth are the one coming from accredited lab. That's simec or other official laboratory. I don't trust blood work from ppl, good or bad that they are. I don't trust review because without being officialy tested the AAS used, a review is just a review and it's highly personal and influenced by to many variables.
I trust test done by me or that come from official source. So I don't see how a rep can screw that. He just can't.
I never seen by now a rep sending shit to simec and make it looks like it was a service to The community as a normal
Member. If they did... Well your badge is not gonna change a thing. Takes a second to make a second handle and make it looks like an anonymous member just bought stuff from PC, sended it to simec and magic magic it's well dosed and we all believe it.
So again... Rep doesn't influence the outcome of my adventure in the AAS world. If ppl by following review of other ppl, they can go to eroids. It's full of ppl reviewing great products and endorsing hundreds of different lab. I don't see how few reps here can really screw things up for the majority of us.
Again I have nothing against finding who's repping and giving him a badge so it's recognised.
But should be the source to say who's repping for him. That would help not creating another witch hunt.
Oh by the way if I get compensated by pharmacom maybe all of those ppl blasting pharmacom get paid by some competitor labs just to smear on PC.
See how's
Easy to accuse someone when he doesn't agree with your ideas?
Sure I get tons of money from pharmacom. Shit I just bought a Ferrari with the last payroll I got
No, your logic make no sense to me. Tests done by unbiased member? What test lol?
The only test worth are the one coming from accredited lab. That's simec or other official laboratory. I don't trust blood work from ppl, good or bad that they are. I don't trust review because without being officialy tested the AAS used, a review is just a review and it's highly personal and influenced by to many variables.
I trust test done by me or that come from official source. So I don't see how a rep can screw that. He just can't.
I never seen by now a rep sending shit to simec and make it looks like it was a service to The community as a normal
Member. If they did... Well your badge is not gonna change a thing. Takes a second to make a second handle and make it looks like an anonymous member just bought stuff from PC, sended it to simec and magic magic it's well dosed and we all believe it.
So again... Rep doesn't influence the outcome of my adventure in the AAS world. If ppl by following review of other ppl, they can go to eroids. It's full of ppl reviewing great products and endorsing hundreds of different lab. I don't see how few reps here can really screw things up for the majority of us.
Again I have nothing against finding who's repping and giving him a badge so it's recognised.
But should be the source to say who's repping for him. That would help not creating another witch hunt.
Oh by the way if I get compensated by pharmacom maybe all of those ppl blasting pharmacom get paid by some competitor labs just to smear on PC.
See how's
Easy to accuse someone when he doesn't agree with your ideas?
By the way never see any of you using so much energy getting all worked up about ppl promoting sources etc. Should I start remembering all the names of members that kept prompting themself for months probably years without no one saying a word?
Boston? Anyone remember him? I did call him out after no one ever said a word and then some of the WKM spoke up and backed me up.
Odiem? His tren was fire right? Many members have used it and were happy. Many were repeating around how good his tren was. Isn't that repping or shilling for someone? Ah no, because he was a member liked that was just an honest review? Oh yeah the line is thin.... Lots of grey area.
You dare saying I get compensated by PC? Really? When there have been ppl here selling right and left and everyone just turned a blind eye on it.
I didn't see you WP calling out those members or the other that have done the same. Why?
Next time you try to accuse me of something have some solid proof or you can go and stick your accusation up of your ass, hope you enjoy it
Boston? Anyone remember him? I did call him out after no one ever said a word and then some of the WKM spoke up and backed me up.
Odiem? His tren was fire right? Many members have used it and were happy. Many were repeating around how good his tren was. Isn't that repping or shilling for someone? Ah no, because he was a member liked that was just an honest review? Oh yeah the line is thin.... Lots of grey area.
You dare saying I get compensated by PC? Really? When there have been ppl here selling right and left and everyone just turned a blind eye on it.
I didn't see you WP calling out those members or the other that have done the same. Why?
Next time you try to accuse me of something have some solid proof or you can go and stick your accusation up of your ass, hope you enjoy it
I said my feeling is that you are, not that I can show or verify it, huge difference. Again, your huge blowouts and beyond over reactionary responses just look as though you are guilty, that is all.By the way never see any of you using so much energy getting all worked up about ppl promoting sources etc. Should I start remembering all the names of members that kept prompting themself for months probably years without no one saying a word?
Boston? Anyone remember him? I did call him out after no one ever said a word and then some of the WKM spoke up and backed me up.
Odiem? His tren was fire right? Many members have used it and were happy. Many were repeating around how good his tren was. Isn't that repping or shilling for someone? Ah no, because he was a member liked that was just an honest review? Oh yeah the line is thin.... Lots of grey area.
You dare saying I get compensated by PC? Really? When there have been ppl here selling right and left and everyone just turned a blind eye on it.
I didn't see you WP calling out those members or the other that have done the same. Why?
Next time you try to accuse me of something have some solid proof or you can go and stick your accusation up of your ass, hope you enjoy it
The Odie thing, I really had no idea until that had already occurred, he never approached me to buy his tren and I never approached him. Boston, shit, everyone knew about that considering he posted about it in threads...
Either way, I hope my gut instincts are wrong, and that you are just in love with Pcom and their products.... I really do. I've called out so many shills over time that frankly, I'm tired of it, hence the creation of this thread. The offer still stands for you to cease from posting in this thread if you don't care for it.
We all seem to agree that reps should be marked/badged somehow. However, that doesn't help us with closeted reps/shills... That is the point of this thread! DISCUSS what you believe is going on behind the scenes.
Nothing is fucking going on behind the scene! What the fuck why there must always be some kind of conspiration?? I just don't get it. I don't see here on PC or in any other source thread anything really shady. There is always some kind of 10days old member posting some shit or great review. I don't even read it.
We are getting worked up on something that is not different then 6 months ago or 1 year ago. This I don't understand. Like Paul and cdn spamming the whole underground about PC that have to leave. I mean what happened?
I srsly don't get it. What changed from 2 months ago? Nothing! For fuck sake nothing! Naps sended motor oil tren and he is still here and no one is spamming naps to leave. They saved customer into and got it leaked and it's already almost forgot. I don't understand this hate versus pharmacom.
This I don't get it. They didn't send anyone to the hospital (thanks god) until now all the ppl that came with very serious problem with them got uncovered has reverse scammer or ppl that were here to smear on PC.
The only 2 real thing was: Luca NPP vial. That it was investigated and we are still waiting for result (not PC fault about the delay Isn't it?).
The second problem is the HGH vial that we still need to understand what is it in the vial and we need to verify both parties. PC fault or the member not telling the truth (not saying it's the member lieing, but we are trying to understand the whole thing).
In anyway those are the two only thing I can come up that can raise an eye, and we are still dealing with it and trying to get to the root of the problem.
But the bashing campaign started before the HGH vial. It started with Luca telling how he waited a lot etc. I mean this is madness. We are losing any logic and we are on the warpath without a real reason.
Dema and iron are rep? Sure ok. They didn't do anything that we can say: PC screwed up, get the fuck out.
I surely don't like ppl that rep, I would never do it because I don't like getting free stuff or getting paid for being biased. It's not what I'm but if ppl like to sell their integrity for few free vials... Well they are free to do it. Bash those ppl, but I don't see how that does have to do with pharmacom quality of products.
Maybe I'm dumb.
We are getting worked up on something that is not different then 6 months ago or 1 year ago. This I don't understand. Like Paul and cdn spamming the whole underground about PC that have to leave. I mean what happened?
I srsly don't get it. What changed from 2 months ago? Nothing! For fuck sake nothing! Naps sended motor oil tren and he is still here and no one is spamming naps to leave. They saved customer into and got it leaked and it's already almost forgot. I don't understand this hate versus pharmacom.
This I don't get it. They didn't send anyone to the hospital (thanks god) until now all the ppl that came with very serious problem with them got uncovered has reverse scammer or ppl that were here to smear on PC.
The only 2 real thing was: Luca NPP vial. That it was investigated and we are still waiting for result (not PC fault about the delay Isn't it?).
The second problem is the HGH vial that we still need to understand what is it in the vial and we need to verify both parties. PC fault or the member not telling the truth (not saying it's the member lieing, but we are trying to understand the whole thing).
In anyway those are the two only thing I can come up that can raise an eye, and we are still dealing with it and trying to get to the root of the problem.
But the bashing campaign started before the HGH vial. It started with Luca telling how he waited a lot etc. I mean this is madness. We are losing any logic and we are on the warpath without a real reason.
Dema and iron are rep? Sure ok. They didn't do anything that we can say: PC screwed up, get the fuck out.
I surely don't like ppl that rep, I would never do it because I don't like getting free stuff or getting paid for being biased. It's not what I'm but if ppl like to sell their integrity for few free vials... Well they are free to do it. Bash those ppl, but I don't see how that does have to do with pharmacom quality of products.
Maybe I'm dumb.
Kash89
Member
I agree and its obvious. A rep will have a bias view because that is their job to "rep" the brand and then they get compensated. Someone that has no affiliation with said source is much more likely write about their experience honestly.
Edit* you know what, fuck it.
I'm just going to join SevenDog and rep for brownies and Jesus.
I'm just going to join SevenDog and rep for brownies and Jesus.
Sorry Sampei, you liked the post before the edit lolol.
Ahshahahshshahahshahsg!!! But u did Read It. Was worth It.
As usual your Logic and way of explaining yourself is superb.
To bad you edited was good
Didn't agree with me I know but made me ashamed of not being able to express myself in that way
Ahshahahshshahahshahsg!!! But u did Read It. Was worth It.
As usual your Logic and way of explaining yourself is superb.
To bad you edited was good
Didn't agree with me I know but made me ashamed of not being able to express myself in that way
Fine I'll post it again.
I disagree that being a rep automatically makes one biased. It's on a case by case basis. Does it open the door and make it much easier to be biased....of course, but the two don't always go hand in hand.
Think about it like in scientific studies. Study funding must come from somewhere and it's not always an outside source. When Pfizer funds a study on viagra does it mean the study, the researchers, the methods, or the conclusions reached are biased towards Pfizer? No. Is it possible? Yes. You must evaluate the evidence and the results and form an opinion based on these. You can't blindly say the study is garbage bc Pfizer had undue bias in the results.
It's also like Mands said. Shills are easy to spot from a mile away for anyone with half a brain. Reps can be harder to spot and should make the effort on their own to announce themselves and affiliations. This doesn't mean their word is no good, just that it must be taken with a critical eye and within the totality of the evidence available. If a rep is blindly pushing a lab it will be obvious to everyone that something is fishy. On the other hand, if one decides to purchase aas based solely on the word of one or two reps, who may or may not have announced their affiliation with a lab, then that person has more issues to deal with than just worrying about reps being labeled.
Bump and to keep list fresh. It looks like this is what we have so far.
@Dema - Pharmacom rep
@IronJulius - Pharmacom rep
@grademan - Atlas Labs rep
@ShipChef - Gorilla Gold Owner/rep
@anabolx - SQS reseller
@mcammy - Advanced Labs advertiser/shill
@jolter604 - pct shop rep
If I missed one please feel free to add.
I didn't add @kosta jeezy to this list due to that one being a tough call, at least for me, based on the thread provided. It seemed he was just mentioning what he was running. I very well could be completely off tho so again feel free to correct.
@Joedoe possibly sourcing via PM.
@Dema - Pharmacom rep
@IronJulius - Pharmacom rep
@grademan - Atlas Labs rep
@ShipChef - Gorilla Gold Owner/rep
@anabolx - SQS reseller
@mcammy - Advanced Labs advertiser/shill
@jolter604 - pct shop rep
If I missed one please feel free to add.
I didn't add @kosta jeezy to this list due to that one being a tough call, at least for me, based on the thread provided. It seemed he was just mentioning what he was running. I very well could be completely off tho so again feel free to correct.
@Joedoe possibly sourcing via PM.
jolter604
Well-known Member
Well im not hiding it and i like this place,i have been reamed enough.i keep my rep thing on the other 5 boards the lab is on.he is doing good there and thats that.
But i see that this place does not take any shit and thats why like it.
I come here for a break now hahahaha
Totally understood but as stated "rep is a rep no matter the board" so just keeping it out in the open. You seem level headed from what I can tell and I really don't see much out of you.
CdnGuy
New Member
Sry for the bump....don't know how you took my post as calling you out man. I was showing an example of the reps deceitful ways here on Meso. That's it! You were not being called out.
GearGodess
Well-known Member
You need to get back to reality. Get your head out of your ass... Pcom is going downhill fast! Luca NPP was NOT the only one and neither was the GH... there are tons of others that are easily found if you check around. Just google it, you will find at least 4 other boards with threads calling your beloved shit lab out for a LOT of issues. They may have been good at one point but now they are flat out greedy and don't give a fuck. Darius has proved it too....It's just about how much they make. Too bad you are so ignorant and blind... maybe you need to get laid so you can see clearly again as the Sampei now is not the Sampei from before. You have so much anger built up and are very bias as that's the only lab you know. Let me tell you this, try a different lab in Europe as a comparison, you will see pcom isn't the shit at all. That's a guarantee.
And trust me, I will never back down for saying how I see it and point out what's obvious. Shit labs need to take accountability which pcom just brushes it off and doesn't give a fuck.
AlphaLife
Member
Who do you use?
CdnGuy
New Member
Jolter just so I understand what your saying here. So you don't deny hustlin gear on Meso via PM almost every night here?
