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hi everyone I'm just looking at getting some advice and thoughts on my cycle and what im planning on doing next.
Currently running a cutting blend eod
100ml tren ace, 100ml test prop and 75mg mast, so far this has been going for the last 6 weeks.
Also running 250ml of test cyp once a week to boost the test. Plus 75ml proviron every day.
So far no sides bar some acne and the odd night with night sweats but nothing that's bothering me at all. Also 0.25 of Adex eod. Plus feeling great never tired and feeling strength

Thinking of upping the tren and test and doing an extra 100ml tren ace and test prop eod on the days In between. So my bloods would be much more stable. I'm cutting like hell but also getting slight mussel loss. Going to up my diet slightly ie calories and carbs and see if I can start to gain a little.
Still want to cut as I'm still at 8% bf want to get to around 6%. The tren has definitely made a difference in the shredding but the diet I have been a little too low on carbs and calories.
For the record I'm 40 and 11st and 5ft 8" tall. Starting to look skinny rather than muscular. Also more gym work has started in the last few weeks as I had to have 3 weeks off training due to one of the kids been ill. So could only do home workouts. Thoughts and ideas wanted thanks in advance. I am experienced enough to know my body and know my limits but the only compound I've not risen before is the tren. I've run test only cycles at 800 mg a week before with no issues at all
 
So your at 300 of Tren A per week with no sides at all?

Honestly that's awesome if that's your body. I am usually least side effect prone but even I experience sides from Tren. Mine are acne, at first big appetite increase then a falling appetite. Then i get sleepless nights for weeks 3-6 and then for the rest all sides dissipate except acne which has never went away

Any way I'm a big advocate of a slow rising dose cycle. My thought is that this type of cycle can help keep gains going with no cliff i.e. gains stop.

So yeah i would say raise the Tren up if your feeling good. Honestly i feel most sides are overdramatic online except Tren. I really felt my Tren sides which surprised me. But Tren is the shit. Wouldn't run a cycle without it
 
I'm on 150 eod on the new comp th tren blend that's been the rave lately.. only side I experienced is metal taste in my mouth when injecting and I take care of the little insomnia I get with either sex or Benadryl/ zzquil which both use the same active ingredient.. I have yet to get tren cough ... I always rotate delts and quads.. maybe next week I might start 100 every day and lower my test to 300 a week instead of 600...
 
taco33150 said:
I'm on 150 eod on the new comp th tren blend that's been the rave lately.. only side I experienced is metal taste in my mouth when injecting and I take care of the little insomnia I get with either sex or Benadryl/ zzquil which both use the same active ingredient.. I have yet to get tren cough ... I always rotate delts and quads.. maybe next week I might start 100 every day and lower my test to 300 a week instead of 600...
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Like i said bro I'm usually a warrior on being able to take things. But Tren @400mgs a week i felt sides on. Nothing i can't take. I love fucking Tren. No compound quite like it. So versatile. But i get sides. I tried do deny them but damn they are there. I still love Tren. Like i said by week 6 they go away. That tells me my shit is legit. Now Tren raws are expensive so it's something to look at.

I homebrew now and Tren is one of the most expensive compounds for raws.
 
Marper said:
Like i said bro I'm usually a warrior on being able to take things. But Tren @400mgs a week i felt sides on. Nothing i can't take. I love fucking Tren. No compound quite like it. So versatile. But i get sides. I tried do deny them but damn they are there. I still love Tren. Like i said by week 6 they go away. That tells me my shit is legit. Now Tren raws are expensive so it's something to look at.

I homebrew now and Tren is one of the most expensive compounds for raws.
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I was a nervous I was gonna get all these side effects not even the night sweats.. I know it sounds stupid but it's like I want to see what the big fuss is about with all these sides.. my friend is in tren e and he said evertime he coughs.. gets all the sides no matter what dose..
 
This is my issue. I can post an older pic before the diet. I was much bigger but also much bigger everywhere ie face the lot. So started diet months ago before cycle. Started the cycle once I got to 13% bf. Might of been too late as the diet was extreme at that point. Needed to loose the flab. This is why I'm asking if I now up the tren and up the carbs and cals will I start to get it back without banging the fat back on. I always used to have the more athletic look rather than big. Diet now is mainly salmon eggs and salads. This is the pet I need to increase. But wanted to get abs showing first? Does that make any sense?
 
Throwback said:
Op is that u in the avi? If not do u have a current pic?
Your at 400 tren 650 test and 300 mast?
What does your diet consist of?
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Diet is mainly fish eggs and salads. Yes its me in the pic taken yesterday. I've lost loads in the last couple of weeks. Be and mussle though
 
1...thats no where near 8% maybe 14%
Sorry just being honest. My avi im close to 12 13%
2...you have no base in the pic
3...you need to learn how to cut and how to bulk
4...the last thing you need are more aas
Get your diet dialed in and get to a gym and find a program to increase your base.
Im not trying to knock u but really there is no reason to use aas at this point in your development
 
Marper said:
So your at 300 of Tren A per week with no sides at all?

Honestly that's awesome if that's your body. I am usually least side effect prone but even I experience sides from Tren. Mine are acne, at first big appetite increase then a falling appetite. Then i get sleepless nights for weeks 3-6 and then for the rest all sides dissipate except acne which has never went away

Any way I'm a big advocate of a slow rising dose cycle. My thought is that this type of cycle can help keep gains going with no cliff i.e. gains stop.

So yeah i would say raise the Tren up if your feeling good. Honestly i feel most sides are overdramatic online except Tren. I really felt my Tren sides which surprised me. But Tren is the shit. Wouldn't run a cycle without it
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I think I must be one of the lucky ones that doesn't get the sides bad. Like I say. Night sweats after the first week or 2 but they've gone now and acne came around week 3 or 4 but that's not much either. I just need to build now as I've dieted so hard before the cycle I've lost too much mussle. Never wanted to get huge just defined but bigger than I am now
 
The diet was way to harsh at the beginning that's my problem
Now and in paying the price for it. Lost fat but also lost way to much mass. It's left me looking skinny rather than cut. The pic isn't really the best either to be honest.
 
Throwback said:
1...thats no where near 8% maybe 14%
Sorry just being honest. My avi im close to 12 13%
2...you have no base in the pic
3...you need to learn how to cut and how to bulk
4...the last thing you need are more aas
Get your diet dialed in and get to a gym and find a program to increase your base.
Im not trying to knock u but really there is no reason to use aas at this point in your development
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Not taken as trying to knock me no issue there at all. Issue is diet was way to harsh so I lost both fat and mass. Left me looking skinny. Need to get diet sorted and build again. Shouldn't take long to get mussle back though so I believe. Ps I'm on TRT life long and have been for the last 12 months. This is due to other issues. Took my endo over a year to realise I needed it. By then I'd lost a lot of mass. Plus id never touched anything before so it was nothing to do with compounds
 
Then I think you need to just keep your trt dose and work on your diet and training..and how long you've been doing both by the way( training and diet) everyone says they train hard and I've seen what that means to them.. my diet has changed a lot .. you have to see what works .. more drugs isn't going to help
 
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Just throwing this out there, unless you fasted for the last 6 weeks, you wouldn't lose much mass. Granted you're eating at least 200 grams of protein and another 1,000-1,500 calories between fats and carbs, then throw tren, test, and mast into the equation. You really shouldn't be losing much if really any muscle at all. So you're either eating less than 2,000 calories a day, which is kind of stupid at your bf% because that doesn't leave you with much room to further decrease calories when weight loss stalls, so you'll have to keep adding more cardio in, which if you're already doing 15 mins hiit ed or eod post workout, then that'll put you up to 30 mins hiit lost workout everyday... fuck that. Lol. So my honest opinion is you didn't really lose much muscle and you're just trying to justify an advanced cycle while being a beginner, or you really need to study on nutrition a bit. Either way, it sounds like you might've just wasted a lot of money on bunk tren. Lol.
 
I will try to explain more. 3 years ago I was a lot bigger than I am now totally natty. Then for no reason known to me or my endo I started loosing mass very slowly but was loosing it and gaining fat. My diet was on key perfect 2500 to 3000 cals a day, 250 protein a day and doing well up till I started loosing mass. I carried on training but got nowhere slowly felt weaker so went to the docs in the end cause I was struggling getting a hard on. Doc sent me for bloods and test level was very low can't remember the numbers is was nearly 2 years ago bearing in mind i had already had 12 months with low test not realising. Anyway after a year of seeing an endo he said in the end I need TRT so I started this 12 months ago. Nebido 10000ml every 10 weeks which is shit as it runs out by week 6 to 8. I can tell due to loosing libido and erections. So I then started a small test cycle which was great started gaining a little mass and loosing some of the fat which was at a stupid amount by now I was huge. Massive belly fat face the lot all due to no test production. I went on a strict diet for my own health reasons reduced cals to around 1000 per day didn't count protein as is didn't matter as I was so fat I just wanted to get lean. Which is where I am now. I'm lean but no mussle. Or at least very low mussle I am trying to build lean mass. I've lost the weight done 3 or 4 cycles while loosing the weigh of just test which helped with strength then cruised with the TRT in between. So now I've got to the low bf I want to build again. Which is why I asked the original question. Trying to keep lean but build a little. So tren which is an awesome compound for fuck sake bulls eat grass all day. So started the cutting cycle but wanted to add a little more tren to help build. Diet has changed to more cals like said above. I see no reason why I can't build again on a good tren test cycle with the right diet. I'm training every other day and cardio on the days in between but only 30mins eod. I have an excellent training partner who I started training with all those years ago who is huge now due to not having the same issues as me. We use the same supplier and he's totally happy with his gear. I understand trying to start again natty but don't see the point if I can get good gear and willing to do the work and eat the right foods. I eat clean that may be my issue I'm strict with diet I never have a cheat day I think there for weak minded people. Let me know your thoughts. I am listening to all the replies and will make a knowledgable decision when I've read though everything a few times. I'm really happy with what everyone has said and always happy to hear criticism as long as it's not piss taking, no one asks for that. Thanks again
 
Brandaddy said:
Just throwing this out there, unless you fasted for the last 6 weeks, you wouldn't lose much mass. Granted you're eating at least 200 grams of protein and another 1,000-1,500 calories between fats and carbs, then throw tren, test, and mast into the equation. You really shouldn't be losing much if really any muscle at all. So you're either eating less than 2,000 calories a day, which is kind of stupid at your bf% because that doesn't leave you with much room to further decrease calories when weight loss stalls, so you'll have to keep adding more cardio in, which if you're already doing 15 mins hiit ed or eod post workout, then that'll put you up to 30 mins hiit lost workout everyday... fuck that. Lol. So my honest opinion is you didn't really lose much muscle and you're just trying to justify an advanced cycle while being a beginner, or you really need to study on nutrition a bit. Either way, it sounds like you might've just wasted a lot of money on bunk tren. Lol.
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No 6 week fast but a 2 year with no test production is why the mass was lost. Honestly I was twice the size I am
Now 3 years ago. Check my last reply for more details mate. I dieted hard for the last 12 months to get where I am now I was fat as fuck due to no test and tired all the time till my endo finally admitted I needed TRT
 
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