Dave Palumbo recommends High test 700mg+, lower anabolics

[Jak3d]

This is the opposite of what I've always heard and thought I knew. He's a pretty smart dude but old school so I'm not sure if he's just stubborn and set in his ways. He talks about it at 9:45.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ChrOSmsvFy4

 

[Maj1979]

I've heard from many source on this and it's always controversial. In my past I've always ran higher test with anabolic just because I'm afraid of tren/deca dick. I'm still researching this myself. I'll keep an eye on this post to see what the pros think

 

[Jak3d]

Well I've never done tren but my plan was to run it in January. higher tren lower test but I'm confused as fuck now haha

 

[Maj1979]

Well. From what I've read. Tren and test fight over the same receptors so I'd say having them equal would be my guess. But I think it's ok to run the tren high and just keep 250 of test to keep the libido up and let the tren do its thing. If limp happens you can take caberogline and up the test to get the libido back. But just wait a bit and some of the guys which tons of experience will chim in

 

[Eman45]

I feel both ways do just what your looking for. On a bulk I would prob keep my test higher keeps me fuller. Def higher tren then test if your looking for that hard dense look. Other then that it's personal experience which can determine how you should dose it such as side effects some people say they have les sides when they run high tren low test.

 

[ambulldog]

Me personally, and thats what it comes down to, i like lower to moderate test with higher anabolic. I like the way higher test makes me feel but i get bad acne over 500 and i dont like using accutane to combat it

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

This is the opposite of what I've always heard and thought I knew. He's a pretty smart dude but old school so I'm not sure if he's just stubborn and set in his ways. He talks about it at 9:45.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ChrOSmsvFy4

Ive been saying exactly what Dave says here for a long time. And its exactly how i like to run my cycles. Ive been in arguments about it in the past. Its good to see uber experienced guys like Polumbo backing me up on this

High test, low to moderate tren

 

[Maj1979]

I've always ran the test higher with no sides. I got as high as 700wk. But I find that I get better results from 500 and lower. I just worry about the libido issues. So been doing it that way to stay on the safe side. You may not got the gains you want but your still packing on the lbs and the bedroom isn't hurt.

 

[mercury]

people have good gains on 500 mg/week test plus about the same a less amount of other anabolics like 400 mg deca or 400 mg tren

proven for long time that it works and great gains

he simply needs talking trying to prove that he is smart

 

[Docd187123]

Well. From what I've read. Tren and test fight over the same receptors so I'd say having them equal would be my guess. But I think it's ok to run the tren high and just keep 250 of test to keep the libido up and let the tren do its thing. If limp happens you can take caberogline and up the test to get the libido back. But just wait a bit and some of the guys which tons of experience will chim in

ALL AAS "fight" for the same receptors. It's not just test and tren.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

The worst i ever felt was when i ran high tren and low test as advice i had gotten from here. I have never repeated that. Now its high test and a lil tren. I dont think folks respect tren enough
And every once in a while some dope on here brings up cruising on tren for a year straight. I mean for fuck sakes...

 

[Maj1979]

ALL AAS "fight" for the same receptors. It's not just test and tren.

So it sounds like it's all in the mix and how your body adjusts to it. The anabolic's give more of a punch and can override the receptors causing libido issues but if the mix is higher in test then the anabolic is the slave and the test is the master. ? Am I understanding this correct? It's a matter of if you can deal with the risk to get the rewards of running higher anabolics

 

[Maj1979]

The worst i ever felt was when i ran high tren and low test as advice i had gotten from here. I have never repeated that. Now its high test and a lil tren. I dont think folks respect tren enough
And every once in a while some dope on here brings up cruising on tren for a year straight. I mean for fuck sakes...

I've never curised. Only cycle on and off and allow full recovery time. Maybe down the road once I fully understand more about what these compounds do to my body and how I react to them I might do that. But once you hit that road it's possible TRT in the future. But curising on tren? That's like driving over speed bumps in a Lamborghini. Just doesn't seem right. EQ or Prov maybe would be my guess

 

[rugerjitsu]

Pretty sure it boils down to what your goals are and how your body responds...

Bottom line, there is no one size fits all type or ratio of compounds.

 

[Maj1979]

Pretty sure it boils down to what your goals are and how your body responds...

Bottom line, there is no one size fits all type or ratio of compounds.

That's kinda what I've been thinking from hearing all the contradicting statements. These are statements from experience so it's worked both ways.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I like how Dave says
Its not OLD SCHOOL. Its the RIGHT way
No one is reinventing the wheel here.

 

[Docd187123]

So it sounds like it's all in the mix and how your body adjusts to it. The anabolic's give more of a punch and can override the receptors causing libido issues but if the mix is higher in test then the anabolic is the slave and the test is the master. ? Am I understanding this correct? It's a matter of if you can deal with the risk to get the rewards of running higher anabolics

It's all in what you like and respond well to yes. I've ran high test low tren, low test high tren, and high test high tren. High test and high tren is my favorite.

You can still get libido issues running high test and low tren.

 

[Horimono]

Every time I see your avi pic @gr8whitetrukker I have to look twice. Man you are a fucking beast. Wish my traps looked like that. So what range mg do you run your Test at? What ester?

 

[Maj1979]

It's all in what you like and respond well to yes. I've ran high test low tren, low test high tren, and high test high tren. High test and high tren is my favorite.

You can still get libido issues running high test and low tren.

I haven't that issues yet and test/tren is my next cycle I have ready so I guess I find out. Since it's my first tren cycle I was planning on running 250/tren 500/test with maybe some winny to kick start it for the first 5 weeks. I got cabergoline, amdreix and Clomid ready. Just got to get the nova, and cardaine for the PCT. I haven't decided on HCG yet

 

[Supermansson11]

High test, low tren.i tried the low test high tren be4.and had 2 take caber.