Depression and/or Anxiety

[JMalone]

Nicolaus, the wellbutrin doesn't have any real sides that I've noticed. The first few days you'll feel a little like you're over-caffeinated with some jitters and feeling hot/flushed for the first few hours after you take it. By day 3, that subsided for me.

I have a scrip for Lorazepam and only took it a few times when the anxiety was really bad. I've since just kept it on hand for an in case situation. The proponolol (beta blocker) seems to do the trick at 10-20mg on an as needed basis.

Aside from the medication, seeing a therapist would probably do you a lot of good. I've had a really rough past 6 months. The circumstances were such that I was struggling a lot to keep my head above water and was not able to do anything but sit back and take it. Life's a real bitch sometimes, but it's whatever you make of it. The therapist helped me get some clarity on my situation and helped me better cope with everything that's outside my control.

 

[Kinetic]

@Nicolaus I take the beta blockers in the morning and just before bed, and I typically work out early in the evenings. I haven't noticed any more or less of a pump when working out now than before I started taking it. I'm also on the lowest dose available 3x per day.

Also, valiums definitely aren't an SSRI, but a benzo. I had a Xanax addiction years ago, so I have to be real careful with that one, but it does seem to help when the anxiety gets really bad and is bordering on panic. I'd avoid those if you can, it's easy to become dependent on them.

I honestly think that my diet and workout regimen has been what's lessened my anxiety, though. I've also cut way down on stimulants, so that's probably helped a ton, too.

 

[hurricane]

Damn! I didn't expect so many comments.

You guys have more interest and concern than my own family and gf.

I have low test, and I'm not sure if that's causing my depression or vice versa. (25 years old currently)

I admit, I am being a bitch. Thinking life itself is pointless as we will all just die anyway. I know I should be grateful for my circumstances and where I live (compared to war/poverty stricken countries) but I'm still so negative.

I've actually had less of these thoughts as the years have passed.

And same here @puckhog , I absolutely despise people in general as well for various reasons. You guys are great tho lol.


I'm going to respond to each one of you

@franchise24 . I should definitely see a professional. The only thing that is holding me back is the chance of futility, aka wasted time. I'm afraid they will just prescribe pills and as mentioned above, kill my libido (which I have very little anyway) and other negative sides. Im usually anxious most of the time, constantly thinking and even when I'm trying to sleep, I always overthink and can't sleep at night.

@JMalone any sides to Wellbutrin? And do you personally take Xanax, klonopom, etc ? Or just beta blockers right now for anxiety.

@PIZZABOY. I actually just bought weed for the first time a week ago and it kinda makes me happy and it's helped me fall asleep.

@RAre happy to hear that brotha!

@Demondosage I totally agree with you there bro. I think trying new things definitely helps keep the mood up

@puckhog holy shit 12 years of minimal depression? Would you try Zoloft again? Any sides to those?

Thank you all! I'll try seeing a doctor and of course do my research before I see one so I know I won't be getting fucked from sides lol.

If all else fails...guess I'll just have to jump on that good ol gear lol.

First off your not being a bitch!! Don't put yourself down because your only making things worse for yourself. Your life is worth living. Quick story that no one knows but my wife and doctors. When I was medically discharged from the USAF after 16 years I was lost. I was an elite Air Force Commando and was in tears everyday(some badass huh). I came home and for 6 months straight I sat in a chair in front of our front door with a loaded shotgun. I thought Al Qaeda fighters were going to break in to my home and try and hurt my family. I started to drink heavily for a few months before my wife dragged me to a doctor for help. I was suicidal at this point. I was put on Zoloft like @puckhog and xanax. The Zoloft made me numb to everything and my dick refused to work on it. At this point I stopped the Zoloft and began therapy. I also reached out to friends in the Defense Dept. who got me a great job. I am still on xanax as needed. I also wasn't discharged for mental illness. I cracked to discs in my back on a military free fall jump. In a nutshell mental illness can attack anyone no matter how manly they think they are. I hope you reach out to a doctor like you did to us. There is zero shame in doing so. I also have a incredible wife who stood by me along with my savior Jesus Christ(didn't mean to get religious on you). You realize your post has probably helped others and now I urge you to get help. Keep us updated and never give up. My thoughts are with you as you struggle with this. Good luck brother. PM me anytime you feel like you need to talk. Best wishes bud.

 

[franchise24]

First off your not being a bitch!! Don't put yourself down because your only making things worse for yourself. Your life is worth living. Quick story that no one knows but my wife and doctors. When I was medically discharged from the USAF after 16 years I was lost. I was an elite Air Force Commando and was in tears everyday(some badass huh). I came home and for 6 months straight I sat in a chair in front of our front door with a loaded shotgun. I thought Al Qaeda fighters were going to break in to my home and try and hurt my family. I started to drink heavily for a few months before my wife dragged me to a doctor for help. I was suicidal at this point. I was put on Zoloft like @puckhog and xanax. The Zoloft made me numb to everything and my dick refused to work on it. At this point I stopped the Zoloft and began therapy. I also reached out to friends in the Defense Dept. who got me a great job. I am still on xanax as needed. I also wasn't discharged for mental illness. I cracked to discs in my back on a military free fall jump. In a nutshell mental illness can attack anyone no matter how manly they think they are. I hope you reach out to a doctor like you did to us. There is zero shame in doing so. I also have a incredible wife who stood by me along with my savior Jesus Christ(didn't mean to get religious on you). You realize your post has probably helped others and now I urge you to get help. Keep us updated and never give up. My thoughts are with you as you struggle with this. Good luck brother. PM me anytime you feel like you need to talk. Best wishes bud.

Great advice brother. No shame in reaching out for help. And kudos to your wife for sticking through your troubles and helping you out. That's a true loving wife. I still sleep with a loaded 45 under my pillow. Nightmares are a bitch. But our life is worth living for. Again thank you for your service @hurricane. I loved working with JTAC cool ass dudes.

I was like you an emotionally wreck. Any time reveille was played or taps was played I'd break down crying. Just remembering all the buddies I saw die. Shit broke me down into pieces. There were times I didn't want to come home from deployment. I wanted to stay fighting or just completely isolate myself.

My worst nightmares are of me pulling my buddies body out a MRAP after it was hit with an IED and when I see his face it's actually my oldest son. I wake scared and crying.

Seeing a good psychologist helped along with learning my triggers.

First off your not being a bitch!! Don't put yourself down because your only making things worse for yourself. Your life is worth living. Quick story that no one knows but my wife and doctors. When I was medically discharged from the USAF after 16 years I was lost. I was an elite Air Force Commando and was in tears everyday(some badass huh). I came home and for 6 months straight I sat in a chair in front of our front door with a loaded shotgun. I thought Al Qaeda fighters were going to break in to my home and try and hurt my family. I started to drink heavily for a few months before my wife dragged me to a doctor for help. I was suicidal at this point. I was put on Zoloft like @puckhog and xanax. The Zoloft made me numb to everything and my dick refused to work on it. At this point I stopped the Zoloft and began therapy. I also reached out to friends in the Defense Dept. who got me a great job. I am still on xanax as needed. I also wasn't discharged for mental illness. I cracked to discs in my back on a military free fall jump. In a nutshell mental illness can attack anyone no matter how manly they think they are. I hope you reach out to a doctor like you did to us. There is zero shame in doing so. I also have a incredible wife who stood by me along with my savior Jesus Christ(didn't mean to get religious on you). You realize your post has probably helped others and now I urge you to get help. Keep us updated and never give up. My thoughts are with you as you struggle with this. Good luck brother. PM me anytime you feel like you need to talk. Best wishes bud.

 

[hurricane]

Great advice brother. No shame in reaching out for help. And kudos to your wife for sticking through your troubles and helping you out. That's a true loving wife. I still sleep with a loaded 45 under my pillow. Nightmares are a bitch. But our life is worth living for. Again thank you for your service @hurricane. I loved working with JTAC cool ass dudes.

I was like you an emotionally wreck. Any time reveille was played or taps was played I'd break down crying. Just remembering all the buddies I saw die. Shit broke me down into pieces. There were times I didn't want to come home from deployment. I wanted to stay fighting or just completely isolate myself.

My worst nightmares are of me pulling my buddies body out a MRAP after it was hit with an IED and when I see his face it's actually my oldest son. I wake scared and crying.

Seeing a good psychologist helped along with learning my triggers.

The fighting is the easy part bro. Then we have to come home with our deepest scariest thoughts. Keep getting better and stay in the fight bud. Death on Call bro!

 

[franchise24]

The fighting is the easy part bro. Then we have to come home with our deepest scariest thoughts. Keep getting better and stay in the fight bud. Death on Call bro!

Thanks bro. You're right fighting was easy. Thats why I wouldn't want to come home. Exercise helps take the edge off. I'll be getting a service dog soon. I'm total peace when I'm around my Ms dog. Now to get myself one.

 

[hurricane]

Thanks bro. You're right fighting was easy. Thats why I wouldn't want to come home. Exercise helps take the edge off. I'll be getting a service dog soon. I'm total peace when I'm around my Ms dog. Now to get myself one.

Got myself a Golden Retriever. Even though my 8 year old daughter will tell everyone who will listen that the dog is hers.

 

[franchise24]

Got myself a Golden Retriever. Even though my 8 year old daughter will tell everyone who will listen that the dog is hers.

Lol. Gotta love kids. Awesome bro. Glad to hear you're winning the battle.

 

[Apexvallen]

I have tried everything under the sun.
Prozac, celexa, zoloft, exeffor, mirtazepine, and then benzos aswell.

Before I started gear, I found prozac to be the most effective at reducing my GAD and my panic attacks. I was on the stuff for about 3 years. It also messed with my memory a bit and I found people would tell me things and I'd completely forget they ever told me. So I eventually discontinued it. I was prescribed ritalyn aswell which actually increased my anxiety. I am drug free as of now though.
I found my anxiety was certainly reduced on gear and my GAD is back now that I'm going through PCT.

I would try to avoid drugs at all costs. It seems like a nice easy way out, take a pill, feel less anxiety, win win right? Id say they're only mildly effective at treating anxiety (except benzos of course). And a better course of action is to see a psychologist immediately. Don't bother with a psychiatrist, they prescribe drugs and then kick you out.
Set up ten sessions, a week or two apart each time and go in and talk and talk and talk. The more you talk the more you will over come your trauma (if that applies) and he will give you techniques aswell, such as breathing exercises, meditation etc.

 

[JMalone]

I have tried everything under the sun.
Prozac, celexa, zoloft, exeffor, mirtazepine, and then benzos aswell.

Before I started gear, I found prozac to be the most effective at reducing my GAD and my panic attacks. I was on the stuff for about 3 years. It also messed with my memory a bit and I found people would tell me things and I'd completely forget they ever told me. So I eventually discontinued it. I was prescribed ritalyn aswell which actually increased my anxiety. I am drug free as of now though.
I found my anxiety was certainly reduced on gear and my GAD is back now that I'm going through PCT.

I would try to avoid drugs at all costs. It seems like a nice easy way out, take a pill, feel less anxiety, win win right? Id say they're only mildly effective at treating anxiety (except benzos of course). And a better course of action is to see a psychologist immediately. Don't bother with a psychiatrist, they prescribe drugs and then kick you out.
Set up ten sessions, a week or two apart each time and go in and talk and talk and talk. The more you talk the more you will over come your trauma (if that applies) and he will give you techniques aswell, such as breathing exercises, meditation etc.

That's 100% spot on. Drugs should be the last resort. I only started taking them because I did everything I could, healthy diet, daily exercise, spending time with friends/family, seeing a therapist regularly, etc and still couldn't shake the extreme anxiety and depression. I do not plan on being on the drugs indefinitely. Just until my current situation is resolved. Divorce is a real motherfucker, especially when your ex has legitimate psychological issues left untreated.

 

[Apexvallen]

Yeah I'm, going through divorce too and my GAD is tremendously crippling.

 

[Thinkbig]

I know best course of action would be to see a psychologist/psychiatrist (sorry don't know the difference at the top of my head) but was wondering if I could get opinions or recommendations from individuals with experience.

If you had/have depression and/or anxiety, what medications did you take, and why? (Besides TRT/gear)

And for how long (I'm assuming depression is lifelong)?

Thank you meso brothers

Every SSRI or SNRI works better or worse for different people. It is hit and miss. Yes you need to see a doctor about this. It takes time OP. Be patient with the doctor too. It took me months to feel better. I wish there was a quick fix other than rec drugs(these work for immediate relief, but end up creating a new bigger problem, so do not try them).

 

[Thinkbig]

Yeah I'm, going through divorce too and my GAD is tremendously crippling.

I was newly sober and going through a divorce. I was on every psych med known to man just trying to keep the will to live! I got fat too. Hang in there! Divorce is SHITTY no matter what someone tells you. Sure it is better after a few years as you come to realize it is for the best. But for me when I was going through it... It was BRUTAL

 

[JMalone]

I was newly sober and going through a divorce. I was on every psych med known to man just trying to keep the will to live! I got fat too. Hang in there! Divorce is SHITTY no matter what someone tells you. Sure it is better after a few years as you come to realize it is for the best. But for me when I was going through it... It was BRUTAL

I can't imagine going through this shit while newly sober. I'm a few days shy of my 5 yr sober bday, so I have a solid 4.5 years before the shit hit the fan. I'd be lying if I didn't come damn close to picking up the bottle, but thankfully I didn't. I couldn't let her rob me of my sobriety and sanity. Can't say the same for her tho, she relapsed hard and is continuing to spiral downward.

Apex, get some therapist sessions in and see your doc about some prescriptions. Also, do what you can to remain busy and in the company of good supportive people. Additionally, if the divorce is 100% happening, set healthy boundaries. I'm fortunate to not have any kids, so I was able to cut contact 100% once I realized there was no hope of reconciliation. I'd recommend the same if that's your situation.

 

[Thinkbig]

I can't imagine going through this shit while newly sober. I'm a few days shy of my 5 yr sober bday, so I have a solid 4.5 years before the shit hit the fan. I'd be lying if I didn't come damn close to picking up the bottle, but thankfully I didn't. I couldn't let her rob me of my sobriety and sanity. Can't say the same for her tho, she relapsed hard and is continuing to spiral downward.

I was served papers while inpatient rehab... It was brutal.. However I do think I am stronger for it. Maintaining my sobriety is not contingent upon anything now.

 

[JMalone]

I was served papers while inpatient rehab... It was brutal.. However I do think I am stronger for it. Maintaining my sobriety is not contingent upon anything now.

Damn, that's rough. Sorry to hear that, but you're right about it making you stronger. If you can stay sober through that, you don't have any excuse to pick up again. That's how I view my situation. How long you been sober?

I'm going out tomorrow evening for a nice dinner and night on the town with a new chick to celebrate my 5yr. Can't wait, will be a lotta fun!

 

[MANWHORE]

Try Kanna I'm not even joking it's actually an herb and an SSRI
It works and I always speak from hands on experience. ..

I ordered the extract 200-1 I can't wait for it to get here

 

[jJjburton]

Lexapro is helping for me...And zubsov helps but thats not recommended,

 

[jJjburton]

Try Kanna I'm not even joking it's actually an herb and an SSRI
It works and I always speak from hands on experience. ..

I ordered the extract 200-1 I can't wait for it to get here

What is this stuyfff?? Does it work within the day or have to build up for a couple weeks?

 

[MANWHORE]

Within the day
Mine came today ..
Well the extract did
I was drinking roobios tea
With kanna added and myself and
The guy in work felt very euphoric
He said he couldn't stop smiling
He actually liked it over kratom.
But the red vein kratom is also good
For mood and don't listen to anyone when they tell you you can have withdrawals
I'm an addict and I've used kratom for a long time in high doses the most your going to get is tired without it and the reason people take it is because they are tired anyway haha
Some people are just dumb