DHB (misnomer, it is 1-Testosterone) versus Tren: is it more like Primo or a "Tren lite"? [Author: Type-IIx]

[Denicnut2427]

I wouldn’t worry about those values or just take a little tudca and nac and you’d be right back in range. I’d be thrilled with those numbers on test and DHB

My blood pressure was real bad last cycle on dhb at 600mg per week and it killed my estrogen…my liver values and creatinine and kidney function were fine…I’m gonna do some blood again in 6 weeks on 500mg test, 300mg deca, 600mg eq and see what that looks like if it’s good I drop the deca and add 200mg per week tren ace last 5 weeks before show

 

[dros]

I´ve ran DHB (1-test cyp) two times (600mg W and 800mg W for 12 weeks) and it most definetely is more like Tren. It´s way stronger than Primo in terms of effects. Strength, fat loss, full while being dry. It is Primo on steroids. Almost like a side effect free Tren. I wouldn´t call it Tren lite. Maybe Tren´s cousin. The side effects were nothing compared to Tren as well which is what makes this my favourite AAS.

The only ´´problem´´ is that the pip can be really bad which can make your daily life hell and the amount of oil you have to inject.

I hear some sources have pip free DHB but I´ve never had it.

If someone can swear by a source I would try it again. Untill then I run Primo at high dosages 1200mg W for 16 weeks and 4-6 weeks breaks inbetween along with HGH and Test.

 

[cmK9s33]

I will also add that it turned out to be quite bad for lipids

lipids: eq>dhb>anadrol

rbc levels:

anadrol>>>dhb/eq

Just so I understand your ranking, you're saying EQ affected your lipids the least or most? I'm assuming most.

And anadrol affected your rbc the most correct?

I haven't done a DHT test yet, but I did liver tests, they were bad, ALT 53 AST44, I will repeat the test but I will add that I am a person with a strong liver.

CRP is also slightly above normal

Those liver enzyme values are perfectly fine. Especially if you're using any oral aas or even Tylenol. Mine stay at 40-45 (I have gall stones) while on basic trt and rise higher if using anything that adds some additional liver stress.

My GI (college friend) told me that he looks at them in broader context, but really doesn't care about them until they reach 100+. Then he begins to get somewhat concerned and orders an elastography.

 

[asaly]

Just so I understand your ranking, you're saying EQ affected your lipids the least or most? I'm assuming most.

And anadrol affected your rbc the most correct?

Those liver enzyme values are perfectly fine. Especially if you're using any oral aas or even Tylenol. Mine stay at 40-45 (I have gall stones) while on basic trt and rise higher if using anything that adds some additional liver stress.

My GI (college friend) told me that he looks at them in broader context, but really doesn't care about them until they reach 100+. Then he begins to get somewhat concerned and orders an elastography.

to clarify

LDL worst on anadrol best on eq ( eq>dhb>anadrol)
HDL worst on anadrol, eq similar to dhb (eq=dhb>>>>anadrol)

red blood cell production = increase in hematocrit, very much by anadrol, eq and dhb much less (anadrol>>>>eq=dhb)


liver values - best on eq worst on dhb (didnt check anadrol but have dbol results) (eq>>>>dbol>dhb)

 

[Ector]

My blood pressure was real bad last cycle on dhb at 600mg per week and it killed my estrogen…my liver values and creatinine and kidney function were fine…I’m gonna do some blood again in 6 weeks on 500mg test, 300mg deca, 600mg eq and see what that looks like if it’s good I drop the deca and add 200mg per week tren ace last 5 weeks before show

What was your cycle with dhb? What level did your estrogen drop to?

 

[Denicnut2427]

What was your cycle with dhb? What level did your estrogen drop to?

Test and dhb
500mg test enth
600mg dhb I frontload first two week with 1000mg which I’ve only done once long time ago…I think I did little bit of dbol first two weeks 20mg preworkout and at the end I did 20mg of halotestin for 3 weeks

 

[asaly]

Test and dhb
500mg test enth
600mg dhb I frontload first two week with 1000mg which I’ve only done once long time ago…I think I did little bit of dbol first two weeks 20mg preworkout and at the end I did 20mg of halotestin for 3 weeks

U checked lipids?

 

[Denicnut2427]

U checked lipids?

My blood pressure I checked all the time that’s what’s had me worried I’ve since started telmisartan …ggt was ok ast/alt … creatinine / kidney function fine …I think hdl was pretty low I’m sure hematocrit was high and my estrogen was low I can’t remember really anything else of significance except my test was through the roof too

 

[Sector]

Any other experiences with DHB?

Curious to hear more about:
1) Results obtained and dosage used
2) Side effects
3) Lipid/Blood pressure effects
4) PIP
5) Any other useful commentary

Kind of want to try it out, but given that it seems to be a newer compound I'm hesitant, even skeptical

 

[Ector]

Test and dhb
500mg test enth
600mg dhb I frontload first two week with 1000mg which I’ve only done once long time ago…I think I did little bit of dbol first two weeks 20mg preworkout and at the end I did 20mg of halotestin for 3 weeks

and take some ai?

 

[Denicnut2427]

and take some ai?

No AI at all

 

[asaly]

One thing I must mention

DHB for me was the best AAS in sex drive

Sad that this compound is too toxic