Dirthand
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Thanks doll!!
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Akc83
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Bro did your filters ever come in yet from Ks-tek? I got a tracking that’s not tracking lol
Dirthand
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I was kinda holding off on the subject cause its been an ordeal but hopefully gonna work out.. I will know by the end of next week hopefully. So i ordered directly from their website and they sent me a tracking that did not work either. I sent a few emails over the course of a week with no response so i went through and searched up the feller on here tghat suggested them and he told me to contact them through AliExpress. I did so and they responded almost immediately (it was night time here so depends on the time of day if you get a response immediately cause time difference) They told me they contacted the shipper and assured me that it was on the way. I gave it a couple days and message them back about the tracking number not working still. This time when they check they said the shippers had lost the package and offered me an immediate refund. I told them i didnt want a refund i wanted the 400 bucks worth of stuff i ordered and could they just resend another package. This was last week sometime and they have sent me a new tracking with a shipping company i am familiar with and the package just left China on the move. I talk to these Fuxkers everyday. They claim in the order is some extra filters and stuff for my trouble so we shall see. The comms has been great with them through alliexpress and they have great reviews on there. Unfortunately the never have responded to my direct emails.. so if you are having the same issues contact them on there. I was going to do a write up once this package arrives.. Hopefully everything works out i will share a post when i know. I paid through paypal so im not to worried about not getting my money back if it dont work out..
Akc83
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Yea I found them on AliExpress and made my order from there. They was actually a little cheaper than the direct website. Hopefully we get our shit we ordered, just thought I’d ask and see since I know you ordered some. I’ll follow up when I get mine or bitch some more when I don’t lol. Happy brewing bro
Damn bro i should have just posted the aliexpress link, guess they barely visit the website email since most orders come through aliexpress.
So if anyone else is going to order filters or vials from them, order only through aliexpress instead of their website to avoid such problems.
Dirthand
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Agree
Dirthand
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Little update: gonna try my biggest brew most likely this weekend.. looks like that case of bottletop filters and couple hundred syringe filters ( both nylon and sterile) will be arriving next day or so !! I will be making testosterone deconate 500 mg/ml. I will be using this ester personally for cruise/blast going forward and see how it goes. Making a bigger batch makes sense as I am curious to send in a sample to have it tested for a wide range of things.. such as sterility, microb, concentration ect.. I'm not sure what all test are available but imm gonna find out and do it.. I'm curious to know how things are coming out. Shit I might wish I didn't know once I find out!!! I do want to say that part of harm reduction is people that has been doing this a while helping people like me figure it out and there has been several guys do that.. special thanks to @narta I bug the crap outra this guy and he is always happy to answer my stupid questions.. thanks my guy
sinistral
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Looking forward to seeing what testing is available for sterility. I've not considered that before. I'd like to see how my brews do in that category as well.
Dirthand
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Testing your gear for the kitchen sink. I received a reply from janoshik for the availability and pricing of different teat fir harm reduction.. as follows:
120usd. Identify and quantity (compound and concentration)
170 usd. GCMS and LCMS. This test for contaminate and harmful substances..
240usd sterility testing TAMC and TYMC Che KS for bateria and molds.
60usd heavy metals.
So for 590 dallor plus shipping we can all check our gear ro the highest standards.. Ifeel like this is a shit ton of money.At the same time it is still something I plan to pursue but probably only this one time.. gotta make the batch first I will keep you guys posted.
120usd. Identify and quantity (compound and concentration)
170 usd. GCMS and LCMS. This test for contaminate and harmful substances..
240usd sterility testing TAMC and TYMC Che KS for bateria and molds.
60usd heavy metals.
So for 590 dallor plus shipping we can all check our gear ro the highest standards.. Ifeel like this is a shit ton of money.At the same time it is still something I plan to pursue but probably only this one time.. gotta make the batch first I will keep you guys posted.
sinistral
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Did they specify which "contaminates and harmful substances" they test for?
Dirthand
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No...I do not think they test for specific things... I believe they are able to detect anything unusual and at that point target and identify the whatever at that time... possibly I actually have a sister with a chemistry degree that us a supervisor for a lab in a hospital....First I am gonna run these test by her ask her what she things and see if se would be able to run these cultures...
Dirthand
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Great news !!! sent my sister a message about the testing.... she said she would do the GCMS and sterility test for me.. HOW FREAKING COOL IS THAT!!!!!! That saves me 410$.. this has made my day!! Super cool!!
Ateam2023
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don't you love siblings with "connections " just sayin
Dirthand
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Update on the bottletop filters from ks-tek.com.. finally came in. They come with media bottles all sterilized with gamma radiation . So basically it's a closed system except for the second or 2 it takes to detach the media bottle from the filter and put the cap on (I use caps with a septa so I can draw out of the media bottle as needed. I a discussion. In a thread yesterday I was told bya couple people that this is a very unsterile practice.. I guess because the short time that it is exposed to the open air switching out filter and cap. It doesn't bother me that mu h because when I do transfer I use syringe filters so it gets filtered again.. however I just dint understand what is so unsterile about that process.. if some of you experienced guys can chime in. I'd appreciate it. @narta @Heavy Iron @qadsan @DECLAN @ksm2 @Spaceman Spiff .
If you’re refiltering with sterile syringe filter again when transferring, that exposure is not going to cause any issues. That’s basically the process for us not using bottletops.
Brew then transfer from media to sterilize vials straight up using sterilized syringe filters. I don’t see the issue being raised by ghoul, don’t mind the guy, he doesn’t have an inkling about this stuff. It’s just like listening to that obese person in the gym about getting in shape. Trust the guys who have real life experiences like Narta, Spiffman and others.
I would say those people have very unrealistic ideas how sterile 99% of ulabs actually are. Imagine open vials standing on a desk, fully exposed to air and pubes and hair, filled one by one with a bottle top dispenser or just eyeballed and then crimped.
If you would listen to those people, you would never even think about homebrewing. Or using ulab gear.
So your method should be good to go. I actually just open the media bottle, draw a few 20 ml syringes and fill my presterilized vials while having a philips air purifier running on high the whole time. Never had a problem.
Dirthand
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Hmm I've never heard of this.. so if I was to set up a couple of air purifiers in my small work are will help with creating a more sterile environment?
It's probably better than nothing. Also you get better air quality. ;-)
Dirthand
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Sterility testing for 240 USD - TAMC and TYMC test checking the presence of bacteria and molds in the product.
GCMS or LCMS analysis for 170 USD - blind test for contaminants, which is able to identify presence of harmful substances in the product. Those tests do not give concentration of such substances, however, it can be offered for additional price once such substance is detected. They do not check for heavy metals, bacteria, molds or LPS, which require specific test below
these are 2 test jano offer.I have never seen any ugl or anyone post results foe this except I seen someone post test for endotoxins on peptides. After talking with my sister whom I found out has the capability to perform these test she said she would for me. The sterility test will take about 3 weeks she said.. has anyone had these test performed before?
GCMS or LCMS analysis for 170 USD - blind test for contaminants, which is able to identify presence of harmful substances in the product. Those tests do not give concentration of such substances, however, it can be offered for additional price once such substance is detected. They do not check for heavy metals, bacteria, molds or LPS, which require specific test below
these are 2 test jano offer.I have never seen any ugl or anyone post results foe this except I seen someone post test for endotoxins on peptides. After talking with my sister whom I found out has the capability to perform these test she said she would for me. The sterility test will take about 3 weeks she said.. has anyone had these test performed before?
Cereal masturbator
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I’m no expert, and by no means can answer the question you’ve asked mate sorry, but don’t we push ‘unsterile’ air into the vial everytime we use it ? I wouldn’t have though a couple of seconds of air exposure would have mattered considering the vial isn’t airtight every single time we jab a needle into the top
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