Dirts Brew log

[Dirthand]

Yeah this is the way, I don't heat anything over 120F I just let it stir for a long ass time if needed and wait for it to dissolve completely.

Best way to do it. Even 110F is fine just need longer

I deffo heat stuff hotter than that.. I heat each compund to whatever the melting point is.

 

[Sampei]

I deffo heat stuff hotter than that.. I heat each compund to whatever the melting point is.

that's another way of doing it, I prefer slow and low, like when you cook your brisket or ribs

don't remember who wrote that it's theoretically better to keep heat at a minimum and just spend more time mixing, it degrades less the hormones? something like that, especially for tren is better to keep the heat at a minimum

 

[Dirthand]

that's another way of doing it, I prefer slow and low, like when you cook your brisket or ribs

don't remember who wrote that it's theoretically better to keep heat at a minimum and just spend more time mixing, it degrades less the hormones? something like that, especially for tren is better to keep the heat at a minimum

I don't mind mixing longer times. But if you have a compound with a melting point of 75c and you only heat it up to 45c your not fully melting that into solution so you risk microscopic partials of undisolved hormone that can possibly cause pip. I read that somewhere and can't tell you where but it made sense. I think @narta was the one that write something like that possibly in the jy pharma thread but can't be certain.

 

[Sampei]

I don't mind mixing longer times. But if you have a compound with a melting point of 75c and you only heat it up to 45c your not fully melting that into solution so you risk microscopic partials of undisolved hormone that can possibly cause pip. I read that somewhere and can't tell you where but it made sense. I think @narta was the one that write something like that possibly in the jy pharma thread but can't be certain.

@narta what's your take on this?

 

[Ateam2023]

imho i would definitely think heating to melting point is crucial as Dirthand said to fully dissolve all particles etc, but obviously not keeping it at that heat for long , just enough to get into solution and then lower or totally remove from heat? Isnt Test c melting point 151*?

 

[Dirthand]

@narta what's your take on this?

Post in thread 'JY Pharma'

Aug 21, 2024

So why would it have more pip in mct than gso at higher concentration.. because thicker oil releases slower therefore your not getting slammed with so much dope at one time?

PIP is usually an individual response to gear. The only exception being when the cook can't get the raw to fully go into solution (yes, being clear doesn't mean fully dissolved, there are still tiny crystals that you can't see with a naked eye).

Sust at 500mg/ml has 60mg prop, 120mg tpp and 120mg test iso. The prop ain't that bad, BUT 120mg tpp/iso is kinda pushing it for mct if you don't use enough bb to...

• narta

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This is the post... he doesn't mention heat but that's partly where I drew the logic from...
Edit after talking with my sister which has a chemistry degree heating to the melting point is not nessesary....

 

[Sampei]

Post in thread 'JY Pharma'

Aug 21, 2024

So why would it have more pip in mct than gso at higher concentration.. because thicker oil releases slower therefore your not getting slammed with so much dope at one time?

PIP is usually an individual response to gear. The only exception being when the cook can't get the raw to fully go into solution (yes, being clear doesn't mean fully dissolved, there are still tiny crystals that you can't see with a naked eye).

Sust at 500mg/ml has 60mg prop, 120mg tpp and 120mg test iso. The prop ain't that bad, BUT 120mg tpp/iso is kinda pushing it for mct if you don't use enough bb to...

• narta

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This is the post... he doesn't mention heat but that's partly where I drew the logic from...
Edit after talking with my sister which has a chemistry degree heating to the melting point is not nessesary....

but if you follow this logic it would go out of solution when it cools down... don't know I'm conflicted. Do you heat it at those melting point temperature with only BB and then cool it down when you add the carrier oil?

Do you have a melting point table?

 

[Dirthand]

but if you follow this logic it would go out of solution when it cools down... don't know I'm conflicted. Do you heat it at those melting point temperature with only BB and then cool it down when you add the carrier oil?

Do you have a melting point table?

The dilute or bb would be what kept it in solution when it cools... there is a melting point chart within the first 5 pages of this thread (or so) i printed it out and laminated it.. I still think you want to get it close to melting point.. the janoshik interview i listen to today actually talked about tren easily degraded by to much heat... by which is the reason it gets darker.. so the darker the tren the more likely it has degration.. sis went on to talk about saturation points and vaporization points but i said stop!!! called her a nerd told her i loved her and got off the phone....

 

[Sampei]

The dilute or bb would be what kept it in solution when it cools... there is a melting point chart within the first 5 pages of this thread (or so) i printed it out and laminated it.. I still think you want to get it close to melting point.. the janoshik interview i listen to today actually talked about tren easily degraded by to much heat... by which is the reason it gets darker.. so the darker the tren the more likely it has degration.. sis went on to talk about saturation points and vaporization points but i said stop!!! called her a nerd told her i loved her and got off the phone....

BA and BB reduce melting point so you can achieve melting point at a lower temperature with those two in the mix

I'm going to check that table

 

[Ateam2023]

edit my post about 151 melting point, i just read the chart dirthand posted earlier in thread, duh

imho i would definitely think heating to melting point is crucial as Dirthand said to fully dissolve all particles etc, but obviously not keeping it at that heat for long , just enough to get into solution and then lower or totally remove from heat? Isnt Test c melting point 151*?

 

[kain]

Well i got some test back on The Mast E 400mg/ml and the Tren E 300mg/ml.. Still waiting on @readalots test for the Bold U raw.. Im sure he is waiting patiently.. Both were decent results i guess. When i get the results back on the sterility i will repost with those test as well. I decided to start training under @Type-IIx again for the time being so I might not have the time to play around with the brewing like i have. either way NPP 200mg/ml and Bold U500 mg/ml is all i lack to have enough tested gear to last years. Special Thanks to @narta @qadsan @Heavy Iron @Sampei @kain @Spaceman Spiff (this MF dont know it but one reason i started brewing) for the knowledge. I messed up on the report the Tren E was made with QSC raws.

Tren E 300mg/ml -0.94 %
MastE 400mg/ml + 0.58%
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Props to you brother, you’ve become a pro at this and I’ve been taking notes for when I ramp up with some new raws next month. Thank you (and others here) for sharing all your success and failures for everyone to learn from!

 

[Dirthand]

Props to you brother, you’ve become a pro at this and I’ve been taking notes for when I ramp up with some new raws next month. Thank you (and others here) for sharing all your success and failures for everyone to learn from!

Bother you are the one that helped me get started. Lol all the equipment I have is from the list you sent me!! Get ready I'm back on the team and will be posting on the discord training log next week.. I'm trying to hit it hard!! .... but is there any other way!
Peace
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