Do people use too much gear than necessary?

[Spideog]

Is it normal to get anxiety when coming off a long blast? Feeling like absolute shit and getting pretty bad anxiety something I haven’t had since my mid teens.

 

[BOSSBIG]

For me its literally not understandable how people can function on 2g+ gear a day. Brain function? That amount of gear is neurotoxic and people might not even notice it as it doesnt happen overnight. Not like from a 12 week cycle you are a slurring mess, but slowly, every year your intelligence diminish a bit.

Very true. Neurotoxicity isn't something that you will notice right away. It's a slow process and your brain adapts as it's being damaged. And then there's added inflammation, poor sleep quality, and overall worse health to compound the problem.

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

150mg a week. Started this year's ago. Went from 147 to 210 during my peak. Safe to say I don't need high doses to achieve a decent body

5'11 for anyone wondering. 6 foot in shoes though lol

 

[bigboy420]

Safe to say I don't need high doses to achieve a decent body

No broo.... bellow a gram doesnt do anything same as not injecting

 

[marsupial]

150mg a week. Started this year's ago. Went from 147 to 210 during my peak. Safe to say I don't need high doses to achieve a decent bodyView attachment 295148

5'11 for anyone wondering. 6 foot in shoes though lol

Fantastic, now let’s see the midsection…and unpumped

 

[Liter O' Test]

No broo.... bellow a gram doesnt do anything same as not injecting

i have a hot take
people shouldnt be using steroids to achieve "decent bodies" or gain slowly overtime like a natural
all these people hopping on and comitting to side effects and chaining themsmelves to injections and ancillaries
what is the point of doing this to have barely supraphysiological levels, 200mg here and 300mg there.

if you have this "i only need" and "i dont need to be huge" and "this is good enough for me" mentality, that right there means you shouldnt be doing steroids.
steroids arent supposed to be healthy or safe, or some sort of biohacking hobby, it is for serious people who want to get huge or for a sport

i dont like gatekeeping but there is wave of people that are trying to co-opt steroids with a mediocre mentality , your goals are not the same

since the invention of steroids, until a few years ago everyone into steroids was trying to get huge, and now im on the internet engaging in discussions about steroids with people who are not trying to get huge.

it is like talking about motorcycles with people who don't go ride faster than 60k km/h

you tell me your bike is fast but you do not go past the speed limit or ride on curvy roads

 

[DECLAN]

i have a hot take
people shouldnt be using steroids to achieve "decent bodies" or gain slowly overtime like a natural
all these people hopping on and comitting to side effects and chaining themsmelves to injections and ancillaries
what is the point of doing this to have barely supraphysiological levels, 200mg here and 300mg there.

if you have this "i only need" and "i dont need to be huge" and "this is good enough for me" mentality, that right there means you shouldnt be doing steroids.
steroids arent supposed to be healthy or safe, or some sort of biohacking hobby, it is for serious people who want to get huge or for a sport

i dont like gatekeeping but there is wave of people that are trying to co-opt steroids with a mediocre mentality , your goals are not the same

since the invention of steroids, until a few years ago everyone into steroids was trying to get huge, and now im on the internet engaging in discussions about steroids with people who are not trying to get huge.

it is like talking about motorcycles with people who don't go ride faster than 60k km/h

you tell me your bike is fast but you do not go past the speed limit or ride on curvy roads

Yeah, but if I go over 500mg of test I would look like Ronnie Coleman, no thanks I don’t like to look bulky- “some kid on 150test, 300mast, 75mg tren, 40mg var, tampons and ostarine “.

 

[Fattyone]

gain slowly overtime like a natural

Mother fucker I’m tryin!

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

Fantastic, now let’s see the midsection…and unpumped

Yes sir.

 

[armburst]

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Yes sir.

Does that guy know what does it means weights lifting?

 

[ksm2]

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Yes sir.

take some ai

 

[malfeasance]

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Yes sir.

63 pounds is a lot in one year.

Good job,

Now it is time to do a real cut down into single digits and see what your gains really look like.

Even not single digits you have a narrow waist. Get ripped and you might be surprised that your physique as undergone a rather dramatic improvement that you cannot see right now.

What I mean is, do a cut and find out what you really built. You can thank me later.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

people shouldnt be using steroids to achieve "decent bodies" or gain slowly overtime like a natural
all these people hopping on and comitting to side effects and chaining themsmelves to injections and ancillaries
what is the point of doing this to have barely supraphysiological levels, 200mg here and 300mg there.

The point of a conservative approach is to enjoy a better quality of life without significantly reducing lifespan. Or in other words, to maximize the benefit / risk ratio.

if you have this "i only need" and "i dont need to be huge" and "this is good enough for me" mentality, that right there means you shouldnt be doing steroids.
steroids arent supposed to be healthy or safe, or some sort of biohacking hobby, it is for serious people who want to get huge or for a sport

You don't get to decide which purposes for steroid use are acceptable.

i dont like gatekeeping

Then stop doing it - it's not a good look.

 

[narta]

if you have this "i only need" and "i dont need to be huge" and "this is good enough for me" mentality, that right there means you shouldnt be doing steroids.

Wait till you're 50yr old mf and then we can talk

steroids arent supposed to be healthy or safe, or some sort of biohacking hobby, it is for serious people who want to get huge or for a sport

PEDs are tools. a professional can use a drill to make money, and an amateur to hang a picture.

it is like talking about motorcycles with people who don't go ride faster than 60k km/h

Have you ever seen a truly fully customized Harley? They ain't breaking any speed limits but you sure gonna check it out

 

[malfeasance]

Wait till you're 50yr old mf and then we can talk

LOL, things do change, don't they?

 

[narta]

LOL, things do change, don't they?

Oh, yeah, 40+ goes from slow burn to afterburners in the 50+

 

[malfeasance]

I keep wondering what 60 holds. I guess I'll see in a few years.

 

[narta]

I keep wondering what 60 holds. I guess I'll see in a few years.

 

[explodingHeart]

After fucking around so many years at TRT doses, I have the urge to tell everyone to use at least 1g of test and not to waste their time like I did.

Anyone else know that feel?

 

[Toadie45]

You have to wait a whole lot longer than 12 weeks.

You are 24 and impatient.

The problem is that you are sitting out there at 12 weeks "feeling like death" and that is when you body is finally figuring out things are off and trying to recover, but it never gets the chance because you keep taking stuff to either change what your body would normally do on its own or injecting testosterone which suppresses what your body would normally do on its own.

Recovery takes time.

Workout. Eat a good diet. Testosterone will come back into the normal range.

hey Malfeasance, I’m new to the forums. Looking for some direction on where newbies should be following. Can you steer me in the right direction