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You beat me to that question lol. Also what about an echocardiogram? Not everything can been seems by bloodwork alone.
They won’t give him an echo without good reason. Did he mention what was wrong with him why he needed surgery? I got bored and stopped reading it.
 
If the quality of the Sigma Tren is what's being questioned here, I've been using it for about 15 months now with very--very--satisfying results. I started with the Tren Acetate and found it effective. But then I tried the Tren Enanthate--which is a higher dosage and from what I understand the Enanthate has a longer half life so stays effective in the body longer--and the difference was exponential. I first started using gear as a early-20s competitive bodybuilder over 30 years ago and have used it sporadically in the years since. As a nearly 60 year old man now I can tell you I've never used anything remotely as effective as Trenebolone Enanthate in my entire life. While bodybuilding is still 90% work I still wonder what a difference it would have made if I'd had Tren E available back when I was competing. A large one I would imagine. I'm not an especially lazy person and enjoy a strong workout, but since I began using the Tren E I've had several unrelated medical episodes (in fact I'm in the middle of one right now, to have surgery in a few hours) that have kept me out of the gym for sometimes an entire month straight. Over the fifteen months or so since I began the Tren E I've probably spent a total of 4 or so months without even lifting a single dumbbell, yet the gains I made in that time were still ludicrous. If I were younger and had fewer medical issues and could hit it hard, all the time I can only imagine that the results would have been even more surprising. I do vouch for the quality of the Sigma product (and the Sustenon as well, which I've been using equally long) I have to say that probably Tren Enanthate from any pharma would do the trick provided it was legit. If you haven't tried it, you should.
Thx u for post and review... and I hopso you do mistake in post not 15 months only 15 week :)
 
@NandroXL , just a suggestion...Maybe some tape on boxes going out..Just an extra precaution that something doesn't get exposed...I realize they are packed well...but an extra level of security couldn't hurt
 
Thx u for post and review... and I hopso you do mistake in post not 15 months only 15 week :)
Not 15 months continuously, no. I've given myself some breaks here and there. And due to some medical issues I've had (none of them related to gear use) I've been pretty carefully monitored for liver function as well as other things and there's nothing worrisome about it.

I will say this though, I'm only taking a couple of milliliters of it a week. I'm not slamming like 3 ml at a time. So long as I keep getting results like I've gotten so far, I see no reason to increase it.
 
I haven't gotten any blood work. I'm going strictly on results. Pretty much the same thing I've been saying on this forum since I started using the stuff.
That is flat out irresponsible and goes against everything this board stands for. You think just because your delts are popping you are healthy? Pretty sure the mirror doesn't tell you that your liver is struggling and that your blood is thicker than molasses. C'mon man.

Oh and don't take it personal. It's for the new guy coming in the UG looking for a source that knows fuck all about PEDs. Hopefully he will read this and be proactive about his health and be responsible with the drugs were taking.
 
That is flat out irresponsible and goes against everything this board stands for. You think just because your delts are popping you are healthy? Pretty sure the mirror doesn't tell you that your liver is struggling and that your blood is thicker than molasses. C'mon man.

Oh and don't take it personal. It's for the new guy coming in the UG looking for a source that knows fuck all about PEDs. Hopefully he will read this and be proactive about his health and be responsible with the drugs were taking.
When I said I hadn't had any blood work done, I meant I have not gone to a lab to have blood work specifically done for purposes of assessing how the gear is affecting me.

Guessing you didn't see the part where I said I've been under medical supervision for some unrelated medical issues. That's been over a year. I've had blood work done at least five times in the last six months and I'm in good shape. I don't take things personal at all. Feel free to speak your mind.

You'd communicate a lot more effectively if you could learn to drop the scolding tone. That part is up to you.

I'm almost sixty years old, I've competed successfully on a national level, and I'm not new to any of this at all. How long have you been doing this? I did my first cycle almost 40 years ago and I'm both educated in and knowledgeable about the physiology of how all this works.

And drop the condescending bullshit about "everything this board stands for." That's ridiculous. This thread is specifically about a particular source, and our experiences buying from him. If you want to scold people about blood work, I suggest you sashay over to one of the other threads where that sort of thing is discussed.
 
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I have not gone to a lab to have blood work specifically done for purposes of assessing how the gear is affecting me.
I've had blood work done at least five times in the last six months and I'm in good shape.
These are sort of contradicting? Unless I'm misunderstanding and you do actually know how it's affecting you from the 5xs you did do it.



I don't take things personal at all.
Everything following this you seemed to take personal. Don't really care how old you are or what level you competed at. Doesn't make you anymore responsible. You can do whatever you want with your body. And the underground is a byproduct of this site. The "condescending" tone you're picking up on is the shock to see someone on Tren for that long. But hey. You do you. I'll scope the training/nutrition forums for your decades of wisdom with PED use (which you should actually share, might help some people).
 
Backing out of all that.

I get what you're saying. Regardless of what this particular thread is titled, there's any number of clueless noobs who may go reading and draw the wrong conclusions, so you're actually right to call me out on that.

I certainly could have been less opaque in the way I explained myself. You're right about that also.

So for any noobs reading this, please note that while I have not gone and had blood work specifically done to monitor what the gear is doing to my body, I have been under fairly intense medical scrutiny--for internal-bleeding related anemia, not liver or any issues affected by the gear--that has made having to get blood work done specifically to assess the gear impact on my system unnecessary.

These drugs can work remarkable effects but they can also fuck you up nine ways from Sunday and should not be used without proper care. Proper care includes getting bloods done. If you're healthy and not under supervision like I am, that means going on your own and getting bloods done. Others on this forum have explained multiple times how to go about that in such a way that your primary care physician or insurance company is not contacted or notified, and you can keep your results to yourself.

That's important because your insurance may drop you if they catch wind of you using this stuff. Some PCPs may also demand you either quit using them or find yourself another doctor.

Never, but never think that more is always better, or that these things won't hurt you. The last time I competed on a national level was way back in 1987. A friend from my sponsoring gym competed against me. he took more gear in a single week than I took in an entire 8-12 week cycle. By the time contest day rolled around he was so sick he could barely stand, with both liver and kidney problems (he'd begun pissing blood). I know that sounds like hyperbole but I shit you not, I'm the one that took him to a Miami Beach hospital emergency room. You would not fucking believe the sheer volume of stuff this guy was swallowing and injecting. And of course none of us really worried about our livers or getting blood work done back then. Stupid, but we were in our 20s so it kind of came with the territory. I took second place in my weight class and he went to the hospital that night.

So sayeth the old geezer:

1) you must be as serious about protecting your health as you are about getting muscled up or you will end up with neither health or muscle
2) That must always, but always include getting bloods done, particularly to monitor liver function
3) there's always an upper limit of dosages where going beyond it actually hurts you rather than helping you build. Where is that limit? Depends on you. Your bloods will tell you before you reach that toxic level, if you get them done regularly.

With apologies to Heavy Iron. You're right. I could have done that better the first time around.

Joe

Guessing you didn't see the part where I said I've been under medical supervision for some unrelated medical issues. That's been going on for over a year. I've had blood work done at least five times in the last six months and I'm in good shape. I don't take things personal at all. Feel free to speak your mind.

You'd communicate a lot more effectively if you could learn to drop the scolding tone. That part is up to you.

I'm almost sixty years old, I've competed successfully on a national level, and I'm not new to any of this at all. How long have you been doing this? I did my first cycle almost 40 years ago and I'm both educated in and knowledgeable about the physiology of how all this works.

And drop the condescending bullshit about "everything this board stands for." That's ridiculous. This thread is specifically about a particular source, and our experiences buying from him. If you want to scold people about blood work, I suggest you sashay over to one of the other threads where that sort of thing is discussed.

These are sort of contradicting? Unless I'm misunderstanding and you do actually know how it's affecting you from the 5xs you did do it.




Everything following this you seemed to take personal. Don't really care how old you are or what level you competed at. Doesn't make you anymore responsible. You can do whatever you want with your body. And the underground is a byproduct of this site. The "condescending" tone you're picking up on is the shock to see someone on Tren for that long. But hey. You do you. I'll scope the training/nutrition forums for your decades of wisdom with PED use (which you should actually share, might help some people).
 
With apologies to Heavy Iron. You're right. I could have done that better the first time around.
No need to apologize man. I'm sure I was projecting personal life shit in my tone of text. But to see someone like John Meadows dying last weekend just makes you think a little. I haven't looked to see the actual cause of death. I know he had heart problems last year but I'm sure years of heavy anabolics didn't help any. Just want people to be healthy ya know.
 
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