Dr Scally or Bill Roberts Cycle Question

[Petgio]

Hello,
i am going to run a 10 week cycle.
week 1-10 test e 750mg/w
week 1-10 tren e 600mg/w(i am not sure if it is legit or not) or(week 1-9) deca 750 mg/w
week 1-6 50mg/ed d-bol or 100mg/ed anadrol

week 1-10 300mcg/(3 times/w) hcg
week 1-10 0.5mg/ed Arimidex
week 12-14 clomid

Any suggestions or any comments,i would be grateful!

 

[Michael Scally MD]

AIH

 

[Petgio]

ok....??

 

[mac111]

i think he is hinting at a tough recovery from that.

generally, test should be run 2wks longer than a 19nor.

50mgs dbol is too much, 25mgs is plenty, believe or not.

weak pct, what dose you planning on tht clomid?

what age are you, your AAS exp. and stats?

 

[Millard]

Hello,
i am going to run a 10 week cycle.
week 1-10 test e 750mg/w
week 1-10 tren e 600mg/w(i am not sure if it is legit or not) or(week 1-9) deca 750 mg/w
week 1-6 50mg/ed d-bol or 100mg/ed anadrol

AIH

i think he is hinting at a tough recovery from that.

generally, test should be run 2wks longer than a 19nor.

Deca is overrated and the use of Deca is discouraged that late in the cycle because it's associated with more challenging recovery.

 

[mac111]

Deca is overrated and the use of Deca is discouraged that late in the cycle because it's associated with more challenging recovery.

i agree, i think deca is crap, personally.....

i think he meant either tren or deca rather than both

 

[Petgio]

hey guys yeah i say,tren or deca..
i am 115kg
181 cm
about 20% bf
i am on diet now..i will start my cycle in 1 month from now..
i am planning 300 mg clomid 1st day and then 50 mg/d for about 2 or 3 weeks

 

[mac111]

hey guys yeah i say,tren or deca..
i am 115kg
181 cm
about 20% bf
i am on diet now..i will start my cycle in 1 month from now..
i am planning 300 mg clomid 1st day and then 50 mg/d for about 2 or 3 weeks

whats your age and training/AAS experience?

you DO NOT need 300mgs of clomid and thats a weak pct fullstop. when i last did pcts i took the longer 5wks duration and lower doses

nolva 20/20/20/20/20
clomid 50/50/50/50/50

 

[Petgio]

i am 25 i am training about 6 years continuously..i have done 4 cycles

 

[MANWHORE]

i am 25 i am training about 6 years continuously..i have done 4 cycles

If you already did 4 cycles, you should have a better idea
what works for you better than we would.

50mg Dbol over Drol is good.
Tren over Deca is good

If your not sure about the Tren, then just run
the Test and Dbol.

PCT I can't help you with cause I never plan it myself

 

[Petgio]

If you already did 4 cycles, you should have a better idea
what works for you better than we would.

50mg Dbol over Drol is good.
Tren over Deca is good

i have never used dbol,drol and tren

 

[MANWHORE]

i have never used dbol,drol and tren

Why you not sure about the Tren?
If you don't know if it's good then you
don't know if it's clean, so forget it until
you find better Tren.

The Dbol you will like as long as it's real
and 50mg/day for 6 weeks is what I am running.
I am not even a week in and I might go for 8 weeks
not sure yet.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

Hello,
i am going to run a 10 week cycle.
week 1-10 test e 750mg/w
week 1-10 tren e 600mg/w(i am not sure if it is legit or not) or(week 1-9) deca 750 mg/w
week 1-6 50mg/ed d-bol or 100mg/ed anadrol

week 1-10 300mcg/(3 times/w) hcg
week 1-10 0.5mg/ed Arimidex
week 12-14 clomid

Any suggestions or any comments,i would be grateful!

ok....??

What you and almost all cycling fail to consider is the half-lifes of the AAS administered. As long as their is a significant AAS presence, the HPTA is suppressed. In this case, using TE 750 MG/WEEK will provide a serum level about 7500 ng/dL at week 10. This is an estimate, but the value might be HIGHER or less, but not much less. For the very reason that underestimating is a real problem it is far better to use a HIGHER value. Using 10,000 ng/dL, it will take ~5 half-lifes (~30+ days) until the serum T is at a point the HPTA will "turn-on." It is at this point if hCG was used that SERM/AI use is optimal. There are other caveats, but this is the general rule of thumb.

AND ...
LABS
LABS
LABS

[BTW: I have treated well over 1000 AAS, prescription and nonprescription, users for AIH. ]

 

[MANWHORE]

What's the formula to get the ng/dl?

I would like to figure out what mine would be
at or around during my cycle.

What you and almost all cycling fail to consider is the half-lifes of the AAS administered. As long as their is a significant AAS presence, the HPTA is suppressed. In this case, using TE 750 MG/WEEK will provide a serum level about 7500 ng/dL at week 10. This is an estimate, but the value might be HIGHER or less, but not much less. For the very reason that underestimating is a real problem it is far better to use a HIGHER value. Using 10,000 ng/dL, it will take ~5 half-lifes (~30+ days) until the serum T is at a point the HPTA will "turn-on." It is at this point if hCG was used that SERM/AI use is optimal. There are other caveats, but this is the general rule of thumb.

AND ...
LABS
LABS
LABS

[BTW: I have treated well over 1000 AAS, prescription and nonprescription, users for AIH. ]

 

[hmart]

The cycle is too aggressive to say the least....

I would drop Enantate to 500 mg, Trenbolone to 400 mg and run it only 6-8 weeks, to provide enough steroid clearing time. Also drop DBOL to 25 mg as suggested.

What is your goal? Leaning out, bulk up or just strenght goals?

 

[Petgio]

What you and almost all cycling fail to consider is the half-lifes of the AAS administered. As long as their is a significant AAS presence, the HPTA is suppressed. In this case, using TE 750 MG/WEEK will provide a serum level about 7500 ng/dL at week 10. This is an estimate, but the value might be HIGHER or less, but not much less. For the very reason that underestimating is a real problem it is far better to use a HIGHER value. Using 10,000 ng/dL, it will take ~5 half-lifes (~30+ days) until the serum T is at a point the HPTA will "turn-on." It is at this point if hCG was used that SERM/AI use is optimal. There are other caveats, but this is the general rule of thumb.

AND ...
LABS
LABS
LABS

[BTW: I have treated well over 1000 AAS, prescription and nonprescription, users for AIH. ]

First of all,
Thank you for the response Dr. Scally
Now,because i don't understand what exactly you said,can you recommend me a way to plan my cycle?

when i will take hcg,arimidex,nolvadex,clomid,or anything

Thank you!

 

[MANWHORE]

First of all,
Thank you for the response Dr. Scally
Now,because i don't understand what exactly you said,can you recommend me a way to plan my cycle?

when i will take hcg,arimidex,nolvadex,clomid,or anything

Thank you!

What was your PCT for your other cycles?

 

[mac111]

The cycle is too aggressive to say the least....

I would drop Enantate to 500 mg, Trenbolone to 400 mg and run it only 6-8 weeks, to provide enough steroid clearing time. Also drop DBOL to 25 mg as suggested.

What is your goal? Leaning out, bulk up or just strenght goals?

that would be a waste of time, those esters will only be peaking at wk 5-6, he would see much in the way of results

 

[mac111]

What was your PCT for your other cycles?

exactly what i was thinking, after 6 runs he really should know what an effect pct is

 

[Petgio]

Hey guys,
in my first 3 cycles i put for pct,hcg 3x 1500 for one week and nolvadex for 3 weeks after..
on cycle proviron 50mg/ed
on cycle nolvadex 50mg/ed

in my last cycle,which was,"light" 500/mg boldenone/w for 10 weeks
proviron 50mg ed weeks 1-12
hcg 300mcg/3 times/week..weeks 2-11

clomid 300 mg first day and then 50 mg ed for 4 weeks
12-16 weeks...