Dragon Ordnance - INT/US PEDs, Raws, & Turkish Pharmacy

[ShredMN]

@Kilowhiskey82 I have some of DO’s var, but mines the 50mg dose. Someone in here was willing to pay for me to have it sent into Jano to be tested. It might’ve been @SkankHunt talk to him about that and send it in. I’m too lazy to send the var I got in because I only have a few pills left and am not going to use it nor order any more. It’s more worth it for you to get your wife’s tested though.

 

[bigburner89]

Didn't feel shit from DO's Anavar / Oxandrolone raws (running at 100mg+/day) and read on this thread people claiming the same. So instead of spewing bullshit I got it tested from Jano - sent in a blind test.

Results came back at 98%+ purity.

Lab results attached, this was the raw/powder form.

 

[ShredMN]

Didn't feel shit from DO's Anavar / Oxandrolone raws (running at 100mg+/day) and read on this thread people claiming the same. So instead of spewing bullshit I got it tested from Jano - sent in a blind test.

Results came back at 98%+ purity.

Lab results attached, this was the raw/powder form.

I was one of those people who got nothing from his var. It was my first time ever using it and I chalked it up to being a non responder to the hormone. In hindsight, I really wish I went with Winny like I usually do. I know Winny works for me but everyone raves about anavar so I finally spent the money to buy it instead of Winny. It sucks losing money, but at least I know not to buy Anavar anymore in the future.

 

[tauras66]

Didn't feel shit from DO's Anavar / Oxandrolone raws (running at 100mg+/day) and read on this thread people claiming the same. So instead of spewing bullshit I got it tested from Jano - sent in a blind test.

Results came back at 98%+ purity.

Lab results attached, this was the raw/powder form.

Good looking out my man. Everybody complaining about it, but won't spend the 100bucks plus shipping to ease their mind. Way to step up.

 

[ShredMN]

Good looking out my man. Everybody complaining about it, but won't spend the 100bucks plus shipping to ease their mind. Way to step up.

Spend more money testing the product than the product itself costs? Yeah… hard pass on that.

 

[SkankHunt]

Spend more money testing the product than the product itself costs? Yeah… hard pass on that.

Beats saying shit is bunk when it’s not. And DO had said multiple times hell reimburse.

 

[ShredMN]

Beats saying shit is bunk when it’s not. And DO had said multiple times hell reimburse.

I retracted that shortly after and said I likely am a non responder as I had var from another lab that I know is good and was still not seeing any benefit. The only way it would make sense for me to send something in and pay out of pocket is if I bought raws and were brewing myself, which I’m not. I don’t have unlimited expendable cash, far from it. It’s nice you have enough extra money laying around to send things in for testing for the community, but you cannot expect other people to afford that.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

5-6x is not accurate unless your gear is underdosed.

My response is always 4.5-5x, irrespective of who makes the gear. Compound pharmacy? 4.5x. Periggo? 4.5x. UGL? 5x (obviously overdosed). The normal range of response is 4-6x for most individuals. Some outliers at the top and bottom of the curve exist, since that’s how curves work. Don’t believe Dr. Crackpot. There is enough data to show that he’s off his fucking rocker with his assessment.

Disclaimer: I do not have any opinion about how DO should handle this situation beyond “take care of your customer and make them feel like they matter”. You guys can argue about how best to do that. I just wanted to clear up the misconception that it seemed you had about response and what was typical.

 

[SkankHunt]

I retracted that shortly after and said I likely am a non responder as I had var from another lab that I know is good and was still not seeing any benefit. The only way it would make sense for me to send something in and pay out of pocket is if I bought raws and were brewing myself, which I’m not. I don’t have unlimited expendable cash, far from it. It’s nice you have enough extra money laying around to send things in for testing for the community, but you cannot expect other people to afford that.

I don’t expect anyone to do it. I’ve mentioned it before the testing is for me, I’m just sharing the results. However I’d like if guys didn’t say “shits bunk” with nothing to back it up. This isn’t towards you it’s towards everyone. There’s guys like “I don’t have my usual Tren sides, it’s prob underdosed”. Like really?

 

[ShredMN]

My response is always 4.5-5x, irrespective of who makes the gear. Compound pharmacy? 4.5x. Periggo? 4.5x. UGL? 5x (obviously overdosed). The normal range of response is 4-6x for most individuals. Some outliers at the top and bottom of the curve exist, since that’s how curves work. Don’t believe Dr. Crackpot. There is enough data to show that he’s off his fucking rocker with his assessment.

Disclaimer: I do not have any opinion about how DO should handle this situation beyond “take care of your customer and make them feel like they matter”. You guys can argue about how best to do that. I just wanted to clear up the misconception that it seemed you had about response and what was typical.

All I can speak for is what’s typical for me, and typical for my individual physiology is around 8x. I know some people respond better and some worse, which is why it’s important to have other blood work to compare things to. I have multiple other test results showing around an 8x response. I’ve never tested around 5-6x before. If someone has no other blood results to compare it to, then of course they can’t make any claims. I, however, have other data that allows me to make a claim based upon past results. But it is what it is at this point. I don’t have anything else to argue for or against. I was disappointed with my test results and that’s that.

 

[ShredMN]

I don’t expect anyone to do it. I’ve mentioned it before the testing is for me, I’m just sharing the results. However I’d like if guys didn’t say “shits bunk” with nothing to back it up. This isn’t towards you it’s towards everyone. There’s guys like “I don’t have my usual Tren sides, it’s prob underdosed”. Like really?

I wish I had a bunch of extra money to get everything tested! That would be ideal, but I’m just your average blue collar peasant who likes bodybuilding. Going off of sides is just plain stupid though, especially if it’s something like testosterone. “My libido is in the dirt, my test is bunk!” Meanwhile, there are about a half dozen other variables for why someone’s libido might be low even if the gear is 99% pure.

 

[ClaytonBigsby]

Anybody tested to see if the anavar isn't Winny? My wife got bad side effects off of the lady anavar. I'll be livid if it isn't what he says.

Very confident it is in fact Oxandrolone, it was tested from a fellow member as well from the same batch. It also feel like var (50 MG taken about 1 hours before workout gives phenomenal pumps and you feel a strong mind muscle connection.) what sort of side effects is you’re wife experiencing? If it’s acne or effecting hair it is probably because it still remains to be a DHT derived compound. Women are more at risk for any side effects.

 

[ShredMN]

Very confident it is in fact Oxandrolone, it was tested from a fellow member as well from the same batch. It also feel like var (50 MG taken about 1 hours before workout gives phenomenal pumps and you feel a strong mind muscle connection.) what sort of side effects is you’re wife experiencing? If it’s acne or effecting hair it is probably because it still remains to be a DHT derived compound. Women are more at risk for any side effects.

I wish var did that for me. Even on 150mg, I got absolutely nothing.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I wish var did that for me. Even on 150mg, I got absolutely nothing.

Pumpz for me on Var are meh. Cialis does a far better job. Strength boost is nice, but that's about all i get until the lethargy makes me call it quits.

 

[ShredMN]

Pumpz for me on Var are meh. Cialis does a far better job. Strength boost is nice, but that's about all i get until the lethargy makes me call it quits.

I did experience lethargy, but I expected that at the doses I was pushing. That’s the first and last time I’ll use var. The good thing about it is that I’ll save a lot of money since it’s overall pretty worthless for me. I have some epistane coming from the UK that I bought legally from a supplement store there and they had no problems shipping it to the US even though it’s a banned substance here. So that’s a fucking win! And I use cialis year round. There’s really no reason not to with all the great benefits it provides with pretty non existent sides.

 

[tauras66]

Pumpz for me on Var are meh. Cialis does a far better job. Strength boost is nice, but that's about all i get until the lethargy makes me call it quits.

Is that lethargy you experience dose related or is it a duration thing??

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Is that lethargy you experience dose related or is it a duration thing??

Duration it seems. With both 50 mg and 40 mg i start dragging ass around the 4 week mark.

 

[DragonOrdnance]

More Test-E Batch C311@ 500mg/wk. Week 7 peak levels @ 48 hours post pin; 2700 ng/dL.

Stellar, thanks for the bloodwork. Seems like a lot of people here suddenly posting bloods. I appreciate all of t you!

Your bloods are good, anything over 5x is optimal. Confused as to why anyone would say it’s underdosed.. but Hive gonna Hive.

Didn't feel shit from DO's Anavar / Oxandrolone raws (running at 100mg+/day) and read on this thread people claiming the same. So instead of spewing bullshit I got it tested from Jano - sent in a blind test.

Results came back at 98%+ purity.

Lab results attached, this was the raw/powder form.

Thanks man. I’m not sure what to tell you about how you feel. I’m a low var responder too, prefer tbol tbh.


DM me for your cred or email me preferably.

 

[Venroc]

So I ordered some stuff , got everything but they mixed up some items so did not get what I wanted. They were suppose to send me the items they messed up on. It’s now been 4 weeks and still nothing and pretty much ignoring me. I purchase frequent from this source and this is how they going to treat me. Smdh

 

[ShredMN]

So I ordered some stuff , got everything but they mixed up some items so did not get what I wanted. They were suppose to send me the items they messed up on. It’s now been 4 weeks and still nothing and pretty much ignoring me. I purchase frequent from this source and this is how they going to treat me. Smdh

Did you email them? I have a better time getting a hold of them via email rather than PMing on this forum. That’s shitty though!