BigBüsi
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Someone tried their primo e?
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Anabolic Steroids
MESO-Rx Sponsor Driada Medical
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Salazar
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chocolateandjuice
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Yes, I have some bloodwork posted on it few pages back.
Seems G2G.
Their Tbol is top class too.
chocolateandjuice
Member
@Driada Medical ?You hear that @Driada Medical
Jiobani
Member
Got mine in the mail last week. Received first order from Driada. Few basics, test primo hcg. So far seems good.
@Driada Medical Any chance we will get higher dosed vials of HCG in the future? 2000iu for this price is a bit meh...
Liska for example sells 7000 iu for the same price.
Sustanation79
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Yes higher doses HCG would be fantastic
Good morning, sir!
we read your question and take it really seriously, now we accumulating information, considering the options and if there is a way, we will make this drug for you, guys!
Hello, sir!
Great idea, sir, we can negotiate with @Liska, and ask to increase the price
Haha)Seriously, we don't like to consider the competitors and partners, we don't know their products well - but we know our product :
in a dissolved state, hCG without the addition of stabilizers cannot be stored for a long time (2-3 weeks, then rapid degradation begins) - this is what we know about our product for sure.
It is unlikely that anyone wants to torture their testicles with doses of 3500 IU per week for a longer time -its dangerous
Sustanation79
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I’m not asking you to do a higher dose HCG because @Liska does it, Im also not doing 3500ius a week, if you don’t want to do it that’s fine but just say.Hello, sir!
Great idea, sir, we can negotiate with @Liska, and ask to increase the price
Seriously, we don't like to consider the competitors and partners, we don't know their products well - but we know our product :
in a dissolved state, hCG without the addition of stabilizers cannot be stored for a long time (2-3 weeks, then rapid degradation begins) - this is what we know about our product for sure.
It is unlikely that anyone wants to torture their testicles with doses of 3500 IU per week for a longer time -its dangerous
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Liska
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I have HCG stored at Janoshik's for degradation testing after 30 days (coming up next week), 45 days and 60 days but of course HCG always contains stabilizers/fillers, otherwise you'd be sending out seemingly empty vials to customers as the API is dosed/filled in micrograms. Are you filling just the pure API, so about 200mcg per vial for 2000iu?Hello, sir!
Great idea, sir, we can negotiate with @Liska, and ask to increase the price
Seriously, we don't like to consider the competitors and partners, we don't know their products well - but we know our product :
in a dissolved state, hCG without the addition of stabilizers cannot be stored for a long time (2-3 weeks, then rapid degradation begins) - this is what we know about our product for sure.
It is unlikely that anyone wants to torture their testicles with doses of 3500 IU per week for a longer time -its dangerous
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Sustanation79
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@Driada Medical I also asked a week or so ago if it’s HCG derived from female urine or the lab made version.
Thank you.
Intentionally or not, you are making a logical fraud of false substitution: fillers and stabilizers are not the same things.
Let me explain:
Filler a substance added to a product (as to increase bulk, weight, viscosity, opacity, or strength)
Stabilizer is a substance added to another substance (such as an explosive or plastic) or to a system (such as an emulsion) to prevent or retard an unwanted alteration of physical state.
As you can see from the dictionary definitions, they are not the same thing at all. Of course, we have fillers and they may act like stabilizers, but they are not sophisticated and powerful as, for example, in Pregnil, Ovitrel, or the ones that are used in cheap Chinese products.
and I have questions in return:
A) What exactly stabilizers do you use?
B) Just looked at the list of Janoshik Lab services and there is no degradation test!
https://www.janoshik.com/pricing/We would like to make it too, but for us, there is no such a service allowed, and for you it is?
So it seems like you have special arrangements\conditions with this lab?
Is it possible to consider that such services, unrecorded in the public offer, are caused by special agreements between this laboratory and your brand?
How can we mitigate a high risk of bias and familiarity if such an agreement exists(and we already see that it is)?
What kind of "special services" are possible besides?
Is there a way to be sure that your lab tests, as well as your competitor's lab test made in this lab, are impersonal and unbiased? How can it be trusted?
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Its a recombinant HCG , sir!
janoshik
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Driada might have to consider getting a rep with a brain that doesn't go out of his way to insult me, because this can't be the same person that we're talking to in emails.
Now, if you weren't an asshole, you might have realized, that simply asking nicely gets a lot of services to people asking, because, you know, with the variety of services that an analytical laboratory can provide it's im-fucking-possible to list them all. Actually, you don't even need to not be an asshole and merely basic reading capability might suffice:
It's right there, on the top, smart guy.
So, now let's get talking about the bias that you've started to talk about based on your inability to read.
Anyway, before you ought to imply I'm faking results for Liska, because he ordered a test that's not in my list, you might want to have a look at yourself and the other laboratory that you use. I couldn't but notice that outputting results are perfect.
Ain't that thing you have going on there a little bit more prone to bias that you talking about? How about having a little chat about that? Lab that only you use, perfect results... Oh, and the detail, they use GCMS.
Which has inherent margin of error way way over HPLC-UV.
Not like it's a bad thing, it's just a limitation of the technology.
Maybe we could have them educate us about how are they achieving results that are so on point that it's edging on technological impossibility?
Don't worry, I don't actually care. I just felt like raising an interesting talking point now that you've shared yours and insulted me in the process. Enjoy.
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Sustanation79
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Based on that I think it’s fair to request that the Testosterone cypionate gets sent to @janoshik for retesting.
Dear Janoshik.
You don’t communicate like a gentleman, you are so-called scientist, and you allow yourself insults, while the post wasn't addressed to you, the conversation was not with you, but if you represent Liska’s interests, then why not?
Let's go!
Even if English is not my native language - I still can use a dictionary.
The meaning of "Insult" term is to say or do something to someone that is rude or offensive.
Therefore, an example of an insult can be your phrase:
I believe you said it in a fit of a tantrum. But why are you so emotional if I'm wrong?
I didn't call you a bad name, I asked the question about how we can be sure of your independence and unbiased attitude, and instead of arguments - as grown men usually say, I got a wet teenager hysteria.
In any debate club, you would already be the one who loses.
I asked a question - How can we be sure in your independence?... And your answer was that I'm an asshole.
How can we be sure in your independence? - I guess the answer is "no way"
But as soon as you heard that there were questions for Liska, you ran to represent her interests? To prove that you are not connected in any way? And what is your evidence? Insults?
it's a comedic controversy
It was not about analyzes, but about publicly available types of testing - the services that your laboratory provides, but about some of them, not listed in the price list, but for some reason individuals use them. What other services do you provide?
I understand that you can do many different tests, however, if you can do them, you can describe them. In more general terms, whatever.
How can you do something that you can't even name?
Let's look at your document and the phrase you are trying to justify:
If it is not in the list, inquire with as many details as you can provide.Can I contact you on all other issues: politics, art?
I think the frame of reference is indicated by the context of the document and the document consists of a list of substances that you can test for only.
There are no other types of testing in general and no degradation test in particular. Am I right? I am. Lets continue...
Further in the document, you indicate the same phrase, but in a more detailed interpretation. Lets see:
For others inquire.
Analyzes for a specific less common anabolic steroid or less common combination (eg. oxandrolone in oil, stanozolol in oil, trestolone enanthate raw etc.) can be added on top of blind common AAS screening.
It is strongly advised as per our experience and in such case the analysis costs 150 USD / sample ( 170 USD / sample from 1st of July 2021).and it becomes clear that the term "other" means substances only, but not types of testing.
Thus we come to two variants of events:
1) either you can make EVERYTHING it's only a question of money
2) either I turned out to be right and you are looking for excuses in your own vague formulations.
There is no third. Can you tell me which option is correct, please?
thus, on the merits of my questions to Liska, there were no answers received, however, I received a dose of teenage hysteria and insults from you - a completely independent person. Right?
And I didn’t see an answer from Liska, just as I didn’t understand why she allows herself such attacks in our thread.
janoshik
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Listen up fuck-face. I will communicate with you the way I deem appropriate. Calling you an asshole was me being almost courteous with you, but it was a mistake I won't be repeating.
You've insulted me and my business, you slimy fuck, and you hoped for me to just brush over it, because you weren't directly talking to me? I was watching this thread, as I do many others, but I usually am polite enough to not intervene, even if I see reps being full of shit like you are, unless I am mentioned.
Now, you have given this so-called scientist, which is just another slimy insult thrown my way, a reason to not rest until your meaningless existence is spat upon by your very own employer or business partners.
You didn't call me eenie meanie bad word, as you were too much of a pussy that had to resort to slimy passive aggressive remarks thinking you have some sort of a moral high ground? Tough news buddy, it doesn't work that way here. It doesn't really work anywhere where the folks ain't dumb, but I guess they don't allow you to those places anyway.
Now, are you, you impudent worm, done telling me how my price list should be worded or where I can and cannot post and will you apologize, or do I continue?
I apologize that your theatrical childish hysteria didn't work, but we again did not receive an answer to our questions.
You are trying to squeeze out resentment and offense at every comma, trying to simulate emotions in order to divert attention from questions!
Insults, intimidation, tantrums - it's all theater
Answer questions like a real scientist, please
