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TANGO.ECHO.KILO said:
I think the aim is to try to get new guys to hold off while the Vets with upstanding reps have a chance to give the guy a once over, ask questions, and generally just get a feel for the type of character we are dealing with. Ideally the community may have a few volunteer to make anonymous test orders of low financial risk and coordinate so between all of us we have most of the product line covered and begin testing. Volunteers will be spending money without compensation for the better education of the community. New members should try to refrain from placing orders until black n white evidence is posted supporting claims. Now granted over time anything could happen. However, when this guy sold out out of his entire line before he was even held accountable to repost pics with the lab name and date, or showed any of his own evidence of supposed mass spec he is doing (not that it wouldn't still be skeptical), it's pretty hard for me to feel too concerned for anybody that shows up here two weeks from now and their first post is how they sent the Greek two weeks pay and he's now MIA...
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Exactly. The idea is to test anonymously with as little financial risk as possible. It's no wonder why scammers open up shop here. This guy pulled in 7k in a couple hours.
 
He is about sold out of his first Batch before anyone knows quality or have a feel for the source. This way we are inviting all scammers here thinking someone will make a purchase no matter what. Checkout the thread with 3000$ min to buy liter jugs.he even gives away a liter of prop to a winner. It seems desperate on some members actions right now. I will patiently wAtch this unfold.
 
I'm reposting the questions below just encase it has been overlooked. I feel its important to address. I would appreciate if a few of the vets would give some feedback on this. Thanks.



I'm new to posting on this board so please excuse me if I'm out of line here during this vetting process and maybe I missed it, but may I please have an explanation as to why we can't know his other handle?

Xodusforever said: ↑
It's because his username may be traceable - I think

Sounds reasonable enough to me.

My hopes aren't high at all, this is for the lulz


I can understand that. We as a community must try to protect ourselves. However, and please correct me if I'm wrong...if this former member is now a source, is he still to be treated as a member?

Based on my time reading this forum, I was of the understanding that if a member decides to become a source, he is no longer a member. And if I remember correctly, Greek stated the idea to become a source was a long time in the making. If that is true, why would you put out details about your identity? And if those details are a security risk, is it our duty as members to protect a new source?

Again, please educate me if I'm off base here.

I would like this work out because obviously this source has done his homework, seems to know what he's doing, and has competitive pricing.
 
Tango your description seems spot on with the ideal situation, but after watching here for a few months I have observed (and also by Greek being wiped out of test) that when a new source shows up people silently jump anyway. I think it's because they either a) know the onslaught is coming and want to get their packs before it goes south or b) assume the early adopters will get the good gear before the source goes scammer.
 
I thought someone had commented that there might be some personal info associated with his other handle and that info could compromise him with LE, etc.........
 
This is what's going to happen and there is no wu around it. In an ideal world why your saying tango will def work, but that's just not the case. We def put these sources thru hell and for some reason I myself just happened to jump. Greek is a member here and knows how we roll. That's why the scoc was exactly how it was suppose to be.( still waiting on a few things) but sources that don't know how it works here just put up a list, we blast them, and they usually bounce. I think because Brutus got the pm( not that he ok'd him) I was able to make a better judgement call. I guess we now just wait I see how this unfolds.
 
Third post in this thread and I just want to urge the community to understand that this is the number one reason why good intentions turn into a bad reality. Rushing to brew and bypassing quality control, horribly wrapped packages, I will go a little light on this batch to meet my numbers etc. are sure fire ways that the source eventually backs himself into a corner that he can't get out of.

Now as far as one guy above questioning above on whether he still is a member or source and does that change his treatment here, he is now a source and will be treated as such. While this was single handily the best our COC has been met , he still has barriers to cross. I.e passing of random testing at the hands of members, actually getting his raws tested to ascertain their purity and continued improvements on sterility and his equipment will need to be addressed.

I am impressed that you shut it down so quickly once you run out of gear and hope you can continue to do so.


whodatnation said:
Only one thing that I see that may cause a hiccup in this hear impressive horse and pony show. Dates written on the pictures with lab name would completely verify that you are indeed the procurer of said equipment.

Second question and this will be my question for anyone coming here from now on, what are you going to do when the number or orders outweigh the amount of gear? What is your growth rate and acceptable amount of people you can handle and when you reach that point will you go private?

Also on the photo since you have so many only one or two preferably your sterility equipment would be needed to satisfy me
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It great to see a group being so diligent about making sure sources are held to high standards. Outside of a few trolls this is by far my favorite forum.
 
I would like to know how long have you been making and using your product?
Have you ever accidentally made any mistakes with your cooks?
 
whodatnation said:
Third post in this thread and I just want to urge the community to understand that this is the number one reason why good intentions turn into a bad reality. Rushing to brew and bypassing quality control, horribly wrapped packages, I will go a little light on this batch to meet my numbers etc. are sure fire ways that the source eventually backs himself into a corner that he can't get out of.

Now as far as one guy above questioning above on whether he still is a member or source and does that change his treatment here, he is now a source and will be treated as such. While this was single handily the best our COC has been met , he still has barriers to cross. I.e passing of random testing at the hands of members, actually getting his raws tested to ascertain their purity and continued improvements on sterility and his equipment will need to be addressed.

I am impressed that you shut it down so quickly once you run out of gear and hope you can continue to do so.
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^^^^This is truth - there is an old saying about people that go into business with the intent of helping people.

He started out to do good and found he could do quite well.

Meaning that once the money starts rolling in, it is very tempting to cut corners.
At first to keep people happy like whodat says, a little quality control here, stretch an extra vial out of a batch there, to keep the t/a in the comfort zone.

I think the source has to set limits on themselves and let there customers know.
Not exact numbers of product but a simple "We are not accepting any more orders this week, will start taking orders again on this date" Or "Orders are only taken on the first week of the month and are filled before the end of the month"
 
whodatnation said:
Third post in this thread and I just want to urge the community to understand that this is the number one reason why good intentions turn into a bad reality. Rushing to brew and bypassing quality control, horribly wrapped packages, I will go a little light on this batch to meet my numbers etc. are sure fire ways that the source eventually backs himself into a corner that he can't get out of.

Now as far as one guy above questioning above on whether he still is a member or source and does that change his treatment here, he is now a source and will be treated as such. While this was single handily the best our COC has been met , he still has barriers to cross. I.e passing of random testing at the hands of members, actually getting his raws tested to ascertain their purity and continued improvements on sterility and his equipment will need to be addressed.

I am impressed that you shut it down so quickly once you run out of gear and hope you can continue to do so.
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Is he being treated as a source? Seems like he's currently being treated as a member, in regards to members protecting his other handle/s. I understand there could be a potential security risk, but I thought I remember him saying this (being a source) was a long time coming. If that is true, why would you put out potentially identifying information? And if its out there, is it our job as members to protect him now that hes a source?

It just doesn't seem like the Meso way, to protect a source, with no history, that has another handle/s here, with history. How can the members to the best they can to judge the character of this source without that history? How can members know if the experiences they read about this lab aren't made by this sources other handle/s? Or even member handles that are current friends with the source other handle/s?

Again, I apologize if I'm out of place on this subject and please correct me if I'm off base here. I would just like to understand how other members feel about the source having another handle/s and history that only a few other members know about.
 
insertnamehere said:
Is he being treated as a source? Seems like he's currently being treated as a member, in regards to members protecting his other handle/s. I understand there could be a potential security risk, but I thought I remember him saying this (being a source) was a long time coming. If that is true, why would you put out potentially identifying information? And if its out there, is it our job as members to protect him now that hes a source?

It just doesn't seem like the Meso way, to protect a source, with no history, that has another handle/s here, with history. How can the members to the best they can to judge the character of this source without that history? How can members know if the experiences they read about this lab aren't made by this sources other handle/s? Or even member handles that are current friends with the source other handle/s?

Again, I apologize if I'm out of place on this subject and please correct me if I'm off base here. I would just like to understand how other members feel about the source having another handle/s and history that only a few other members know about.
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He is now a source. Period.
When you start to make money off you fellow members it changes the game no matter what good intentions you have.

Sources are not protected, members are.

The question about old handle is that as a member he may have said something about his location or family or job that could compromise security for both the source and the customer.
 
I think there is an issue with is other handle being able to find ways of actually identifying him if LE were to actual dig through his profile and post history. This is understandable because posting as a member to a board and as a source take very different levels of protecting one's self.

So in this regard I have no problem with only one or two vets knowing who he was before.
 
BIGMESC said:
^^^^This is truth - there is an old saying about people that go into business with the intent of helping people.

He started out to do good and found he could do quite well.

Meaning that once the money starts rolling in, it is very tempting to cut corners.
At first to keep people happy like whodat says, a little quality control here, stretch an extra vial out of a batch there, to keep the t/a in the comfort zone.

I think the source has to set limits on themselves and let there customers know.
Not exact numbers of product but a simple "We are not accepting any more orders this week, will start taking orders again on this date" Or "Orders are only taken on the first week of the month and are filled before the end of the month"
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Well said!
 
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