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You can say that again! I owe her a sincere thank you as well as @bolder. There were many people who helped me out and gave me advice but both of them devoted many hours to helping me and giving me advice. @Kim probably spent more time investigating than me and it wasn't even her money. That speaks to her great character as well as several other members!
No one can ever accuse @Kim of not being loyal. She stood by dyna and said he would come through the entire time, even when literally every other person and all evidence pointed to that potentially not being the case.
1000% accurate. She told me from the first that dyna didn't rip people off that something was wrong. Womens intuition, and Kimmers is all woman!
Thanks bro I appreciate it. Always good hearing when members help members!
I hate hearing when members loose money, time, or their well being has been compromised from a source!
The thing with me is I’m 100% for our members here. We all have something in common and goals we can help one another to achieve.
Although I use these sources like the rest of us, personally I don’t give a shit about them. They come here with services to provide and they should hold their end of the bargain! They come and go all the time. It’s all business until you loose money then it gets personal real quick!
It’s the shitty scamming sources that give the decent sources a bad name and make it even harder for the good ones.
The bad ones leave a bad taste in our mouth and I’d even say there’s a bigger percentage of bad ones out there than good ones. Thats why you should never back a source as a member here imo.
I’ve seen far more good members here at Meso than bad ones. That’s why I say Meso is a member’s board and not a source board! That, and Millard lets us say what we want and doesn’t censor us (to a point).
If a source doesn’t like how we do things they can take their ass on over to a paid source board where they’ll be protected... cause that’s not happening here!
movingiron88
Member
Classy move brother. Respect for this post. I know @Kim will appreciate you saying that.
I'm relatively newer so I'm not fully aware of posts conversations/reputations so I won't comment on that.
But I will say in this instance @Kim went above anything anybody could reasonably expect someone to do. Since Dyna went "missing" on December 22 she sent me wickr messages pretty much everyday with people she was going to contact who might know something, people I should contact, updates, she even reached out to some people that she knew better on my behalf.
In total I would probably say she spent about 10+ hours on this and if anything that is underselling it. I was getting to the point where I was sick of it and felt like I was wasting my time so I can only imagine how she felt since it wasn't even her money.
Myself and anyone else who benefits from her help definitely owes her a sincere thanks and in my opinion this shouldn't be forgotten moving forward. I don't know what more you could really expect someone to do.
movingiron88
Member
You know the deal, there is always more then meets the eyes in this lifestyle. I'm always skeptical at first and try to always look for the angle. I generally question everything but usually in due time the truth comes out or atleast lies exposed. I know, I know, sometimes even I double up on my tinfoil hats but with due reason. When the chips are down @Kim has always been on the helping side of our members.
Simply reading the post above I gotta give her the respect she is due. Thanks for giving your time to help our members @Kim
He was here*
ExtremePIP
Subscriber
Firstly, I would like to apologize for any stress I have caused any of my customers and members of this forum. I have only read a few pages and it hurt me to see it, I have been back in China for 2 weeks and avoided reading this thread because of the guilt I felt at my ability to do nothing about the situation. I asked my girlfriend to read this thread for me last night and let me know what was being said..
I would also personally like to apologize to these few people that have put their trust in me and really vouched for me (@Kim, Amtont and a bunch of others I forgot to mention), I apologize for letting you guys have doubts and even possibly putting your own reputations in the gutter because of the situation that happened.
I hope with this explanation down below and my willingness to come back to the forum, it shows that I am not a scammer nor do I have it in my heart to be a scammer. I haven't slept a day since the middle of December and I have an immense feeling of guilt and constant unease. Please understand that this might(will) be messy and I will try to answer any questions to the best of my ability.
The past month and a half has been hell, health wise - but you guys already knew that. I thought my bad luck was over after I tore my ACL, I certainly thought wrong.
After I had torn my ACL, I went to the US 3-4 days after (please understand I will not be specific on certain dates and monetary values due to LE). Everything was fine for the first week I arrived back home, orders were being sent out as normal and everything seemed to be fine. We also just shipped 2 big packages enroute to our domestic guy to cover us until at least Feb-March (or so I thought). Shortly afterwards during my second week in the US, a customer messaged me on Discord and informed me that a package had been intercepted and DHS (Department of Homeland Security) got involved. I immediately notified my shipper of the situation and without me knowing, he burnt our domestic stock. Everything I had was gone. However I could not blame him, as I was scared as well. I broke the first rule of this game, I used someone I knew personally as a domestic shipper. In part, I was relieved he burned our stock so if anything was to happen - none of us would go down. I cannot disclose anything else, but you can guess that there was something that did happen in the next week and a half that is still ongoing. So there I was, sitting in the US waiting for ACL surgery; I knew I couldn't get it anymore because of the risk/possibility of getting arrested. Two or three days after this happened (when my customer first notified me of the package seizure), I immediately notified any customers that wanted to still order, that we were not taking orders - and I asked my partner to reroute those two packages to a different shipper - my thoughts were that I would be able to use those two packages to pay off any pending pre orders (all of the orders were in fact pre orders waiting on these packages). My partner said the packages could not be rerouted and my shipper would have to call FEDEX himself to arrange an address change; that was out of the question. What was weird was, we had shipped these packages out close to the middle of December - usually our turnaround for INTL packages is 10-13 days; however tracking will usually update in 3-5 days after the package is shipped. Tracking did not update, and it was the 6th day - I still had hope and waited until the 9th day. That's when I asked my partner, as she takes care of shipping things and only she has access to the factories and our freight forwarder. I myself was not given any ability to talk to our shipper. My partner told me to wait until the following Monday. I waited and the packs still did not update, so I started panicking.
Suddenly during this time, I also received an email on my Protonmail that spelled out my domestic shippers address in a very disturbing way, also his last name.
At this point I feared for my safety and I had doubts about my Chinese partner, as this was the biggest restock we had and my partner didn't seem worried, I also asked her for screen shots of her conversation and there were none provided. At this point I stopped answering emails (and refused any incoming orders) and deleted my Protonmail and anything related to this operation from my phone, and computer.
A day before this (or around this time frame) I sold my Bitcoin. Everything seemed fine, until I checked my bank account and it was overdrafted by -$888,888. It turned out, one of my partner's past customer had just claimed fraud for an order a long while back when I helped her accept money through CashApp/Venmo - it sounds like a crock full of shit even to me - but I can send proof to a few members (I will not post the bank statement in public due to safety reasons). At that point, all of our stock was gone, the profit/refund money was gone, and all I had was hope on these two packages. I got back to China at the end of December and the packages did not update. My partner told me they were seized, however tracking still shows otherwise - making me believe that these numbers were just processing numbers - like a USPS shipping label.
I held off on reading this thread, and I apologize for that. I honestly felt terrible because I had no resources to come back, I had to stay hidden while I was in the US but when I was back in China there was certainly no excuse to not reply to this thread except for the fact that I felt hopeless. I couldn't do anything and face the comments I already knew would come. To put it bluntly, I was like a frightened little fucking kid and I was depressed. It felt like every thing I worked for was gone in just a span of a few days. It took months to build trust and rep, and build relationships that I hoped would last for a long time on this board. I was sure that those two packages would arrive, it was stupid of me to allow my partner to handle everything on the "Chinese side". My understanding of written Mandarin is limited and I can only speak and listen to it, so I let it slide. I never thought it would turn out like this.
I just wanted to reiterate again, I would never scam. I don't have it in me, the amount of money sent to me - I haven't seen a penny of it. I also actively told members and friends that I could not accept orders past the 5 pre orders already. I wish this turnt out differently; it took me a while to see it but the game we are playing is dangerous. Freedom is at stake and more. Money was the least of my concern when my stock was burnt, I was just happy that my guy was safe at that time and I was as well. I just wanted to say one last thing, and I feel like some people may not take kindly to it but I feel like I have to get it off my chest. The market we are in is not normal, sometimes customers forget and so do I. Sometimes we have to gauge ourselves and realize that this is in fact illegal and losses will happen, not just on the customer side but also on the source's side as well. I took a lot of pride in my customer service, I would even brag to my girlfriend because I would read the good reviews and people saying "Dyna's customer service is amazing ". However at the end of the day, even though I tried my best - the game took its toll on me and fucked me unexpectedly. I could only charge it to the game, I just hope everyone takes this with a grain of salt.. it's dangerous doing what we do on both sides of the spectrum and we always have to consider a source may be a scammer, or a source may have extenuating circumstances, or a customer being LE, extortion and many other possibilities. Thank you.
I will send proof of what I said to some members, Im sorry I cannot post it publically due to the circumstances. I apologize again, it really did pain me to see some of the harsh words on here but I also understand it.
I really love my customers, this forum and consider most of you as friends.
As of now, I am currently talking with a factory to help me and front me some product, and send everyone their missing items.
Please understand this will take some time, and I am unsure if I will continue business. I came back on here to make things right, making money is not my first priority. I won't be accepting any orders.
Please message me on my new wickr: Extremepip
I will have to find a way to recover my Protonmail and old Wickr, as I deleted my password note pad.
Thank you.
I would also personally like to apologize to these few people that have put their trust in me and really vouched for me (@Kim, Amtont and a bunch of others I forgot to mention), I apologize for letting you guys have doubts and even possibly putting your own reputations in the gutter because of the situation that happened.
I hope with this explanation down below and my willingness to come back to the forum, it shows that I am not a scammer nor do I have it in my heart to be a scammer. I haven't slept a day since the middle of December and I have an immense feeling of guilt and constant unease. Please understand that this might(will) be messy and I will try to answer any questions to the best of my ability.
The past month and a half has been hell, health wise - but you guys already knew that. I thought my bad luck was over after I tore my ACL, I certainly thought wrong.
After I had torn my ACL, I went to the US 3-4 days after (please understand I will not be specific on certain dates and monetary values due to LE). Everything was fine for the first week I arrived back home, orders were being sent out as normal and everything seemed to be fine. We also just shipped 2 big packages enroute to our domestic guy to cover us until at least Feb-March (or so I thought). Shortly afterwards during my second week in the US, a customer messaged me on Discord and informed me that a package had been intercepted and DHS (Department of Homeland Security) got involved. I immediately notified my shipper of the situation and without me knowing, he burnt our domestic stock. Everything I had was gone. However I could not blame him, as I was scared as well. I broke the first rule of this game, I used someone I knew personally as a domestic shipper. In part, I was relieved he burned our stock so if anything was to happen - none of us would go down. I cannot disclose anything else, but you can guess that there was something that did happen in the next week and a half that is still ongoing. So there I was, sitting in the US waiting for ACL surgery; I knew I couldn't get it anymore because of the risk/possibility of getting arrested. Two or three days after this happened (when my customer first notified me of the package seizure), I immediately notified any customers that wanted to still order, that we were not taking orders - and I asked my partner to reroute those two packages to a different shipper - my thoughts were that I would be able to use those two packages to pay off any pending pre orders (all of the orders were in fact pre orders waiting on these packages). My partner said the packages could not be rerouted and my shipper would have to call FEDEX himself to arrange an address change; that was out of the question. What was weird was, we had shipped these packages out close to the middle of December - usually our turnaround for INTL packages is 10-13 days; however tracking will usually update in 3-5 days after the package is shipped. Tracking did not update, and it was the 6th day - I still had hope and waited until the 9th day. That's when I asked my partner, as she takes care of shipping things and only she has access to the factories and our freight forwarder. I myself was not given any ability to talk to our shipper. My partner told me to wait until the following Monday. I waited and the packs still did not update, so I started panicking.
Suddenly during this time, I also received an email on my Protonmail that spelled out my domestic shippers address in a very disturbing way, also his last name.
At this point I feared for my safety and I had doubts about my Chinese partner, as this was the biggest restock we had and my partner didn't seem worried, I also asked her for screen shots of her conversation and there were none provided. At this point I stopped answering emails (and refused any incoming orders) and deleted my Protonmail and anything related to this operation from my phone, and computer.
A day before this (or around this time frame) I sold my Bitcoin. Everything seemed fine, until I checked my bank account and it was overdrafted by -$888,888. It turned out, one of my partner's past customer had just claimed fraud for an order a long while back when I helped her accept money through CashApp/Venmo - it sounds like a crock full of shit even to me - but I can send proof to a few members (I will not post the bank statement in public due to safety reasons). At that point, all of our stock was gone, the profit/refund money was gone, and all I had was hope on these two packages. I got back to China at the end of December and the packages did not update. My partner told me they were seized, however tracking still shows otherwise - making me believe that these numbers were just processing numbers - like a USPS shipping label.
I held off on reading this thread, and I apologize for that. I honestly felt terrible because I had no resources to come back, I had to stay hidden while I was in the US but when I was back in China there was certainly no excuse to not reply to this thread except for the fact that I felt hopeless. I couldn't do anything and face the comments I already knew would come. To put it bluntly, I was like a frightened little fucking kid and I was depressed. It felt like every thing I worked for was gone in just a span of a few days. It took months to build trust and rep, and build relationships that I hoped would last for a long time on this board. I was sure that those two packages would arrive, it was stupid of me to allow my partner to handle everything on the "Chinese side". My understanding of written Mandarin is limited and I can only speak and listen to it, so I let it slide. I never thought it would turn out like this.
I just wanted to reiterate again, I would never scam. I don't have it in me, the amount of money sent to me - I haven't seen a penny of it. I also actively told members and friends that I could not accept orders past the 5 pre orders already. I wish this turnt out differently; it took me a while to see it but the game we are playing is dangerous. Freedom is at stake and more. Money was the least of my concern when my stock was burnt, I was just happy that my guy was safe at that time and I was as well. I just wanted to say one last thing, and I feel like some people may not take kindly to it but I feel like I have to get it off my chest. The market we are in is not normal, sometimes customers forget and so do I. Sometimes we have to gauge ourselves and realize that this is in fact illegal and losses will happen, not just on the customer side but also on the source's side as well. I took a lot of pride in my customer service, I would even brag to my girlfriend because I would read the good reviews and people saying "Dyna's customer service is amazing ". However at the end of the day, even though I tried my best - the game took its toll on me and fucked me unexpectedly. I could only charge it to the game, I just hope everyone takes this with a grain of salt.. it's dangerous doing what we do on both sides of the spectrum and we always have to consider a source may be a scammer, or a source may have extenuating circumstances, or a customer being LE, extortion and many other possibilities. Thank you.
I will send proof of what I said to some members, Im sorry I cannot post it publically due to the circumstances. I apologize again, it really did pain me to see some of the harsh words on here but I also understand it.
I really love my customers, this forum and consider most of you as friends.
As of now, I am currently talking with a factory to help me and front me some product, and send everyone their missing items.
Please understand this will take some time, and I am unsure if I will continue business. I came back on here to make things right, making money is not my first priority. I won't be accepting any orders.
Please message me on my new wickr: Extremepip
I will have to find a way to recover my Protonmail and old Wickr, as I deleted my password note pad.
Thank you.
ExtremePIP
Subscriber
There are 5 members I owe and one source from SST that sent money after I deleted my BTC wallet (Exodus), and I am working on getting the factory to let me use some credit, please understand this will take a few weeks if they do ship. I am hoping they do so before Chinese New Years, or they won't be able to ship until the 26th. I am doing everything off credit if they allow me to.
Thank you guys, and I really want to apologize again. There are more than a handful of members that know me, and I hope can attest to my character. When I say I'll make things right, I always do. When it came to reshipping raws, I would always send extra, I've never scammed and I never will.
I love you guys, and thank you @Kim for helping everyone out. Thank you for vouching for me and anyone else that did, it means a lot. I promise, I will do whatever is in my power to get this resolved. However long it takes, I am currently going to save up some money working in the case that the factory will not give me enough credit.
Thank you guys, and I really want to apologize again. There are more than a handful of members that know me, and I hope can attest to my character. When I say I'll make things right, I always do. When it came to reshipping raws, I would always send extra, I've never scammed and I never will.
I love you guys, and thank you @Kim for helping everyone out. Thank you for vouching for me and anyone else that did, it means a lot. I promise, I will do whatever is in my power to get this resolved. However long it takes, I am currently going to save up some money working in the case that the factory will not give me enough credit.
Thanks for the explanation. While it obviously would have helped to alleviate some members concerns to know what was going on sooner it is helpful to know the story and be reassured that things will be made right by the end of the month.
With regards to previous posts I think more than anything people were just confused. As I and many others stated in previous posts, being scammed would have gone against everything people believed you to be, from a character and integrity standpoint. While you always want to believe the best in someone, it is hard not to feel that you may have been scammed when you don’t hear from someone for close to 3 weeks. It is also hard not to feel at least a little anger when significant amounts of money are at stake.
That being said as long as things are made right, which you have promised to do so, all will be forgiven and forgotten at least in my eyes. Coming back and making things right would confirm the character and integrity, that I and many others believed you to have and why people placed their trust in you as a source.
While I can’t speak for other members, once things are made right, I would personally not have a problem welcoming you back if that is something you would choose to do. While it would probably take some time to regain peoples trust and build back your reputation, I think it could be done. Part of the reason the words may have come across as harsh is because it always hurts more and makes you angrier to be let down by someone you feel you can trust or have faith in. While bolder has constantly reminded us that this is a business and I certainly echo his statement, part of the reason why your reviews were pretty much all positive is because people believed in you and your customer service.
I will keep everyone updated. I have tried to be fair in this whole ordeal. Things need to be made right, but when they are I believe that dyna should be acknowledged for this. While I certainly wish things were handled differently, if we are being honest with ourselves I think we all have had situations in our lives that we wish we had handled differently.
At this point, all we can really ask is that Dyna does right by his customers. Which he has promised to do so. When this happens in my opinion it will say something about him as a person and we can all move forwards from there.
Incoming: 2 minute read
@ExtremePIP I still don’t understand why there wasn’t any communication to the ones that were waiting on their stuff?
One message to one person to tell others would have at least eased minds. If you burned everything related to your brand then why not make new accounts and try to reach out? I also think you should leave the old accounts buried (Proton, ect) and make new ones going forward...
People are more understanding than you may think. I believe a little communication would have went a long way here. The credibility you built was tossed to the side and could have been easily saved. Now if you do open back up for business there will be a lot of people that’s read this thread and not take the risk with you because of this incident.
Look, I understand protecting yourself and doing what’s necessary to stay safe. What I don’t understand is why you couldn’t still do that and let just one person know something, anything?
A simple message such as “having big issues, working on it, but will take time, I’ll be in touch” could have saved you a lot of grief.
Shit happens, just like what happened to you. It’s how you handle it that makes all the difference. This was handled very poorly.
I’ve never sourced and never will but from your posts I read so many mistakes you made (imo).
Taking preorders, leaving your safe spot to come to the US, close relationship with your reshipper, ghosting customers, all your eggs in one basket (wallet) with no safety net, and that’s just mentioning a few lol.
Use this as a lesson learned moving forward so it doesn’t happen again. That’s if you decide to try continue sourcing. Or just give up playing this game because you might not be cut out for it. I know I’m definitely not cut out for it
fuck all that noise! First things first though, take care of everyone you left hanging! That will put you back on the right path, plus it’s the right thing to do!
Good luck, keep us updated on getting this shit taken care of... even though you came back, the hard truth is; members already paid for your service and until that is settled, it’s still a potential scam.
Don’t be ‘that guy’ man.
I have a feeling you’re gonna do the right thing though! 
Well
That was unexpected.
If he looks after everyone, that would be a first in this area.
Good luck to everyone.
That was unexpected.
If he looks after everyone, that would be a first in this area.
Good luck to everyone.
Incoming: 2 minute read@ExtremePIP I still don’t understand why there wasn’t any communication to the ones that were waiting on their stuff?
One message to one person to tell others would have at least eased minds. If you burned everything related to your brand then why not make new accounts and try to reach out? I also think you should leave the old accounts buried (Proton, ect) and make new ones going forward...
People are more understanding than you may think. I believe a little communication would have went a long way here. The credibility you built was tossed to the side and could have been easily saved. Now if you do open back up for business there will be a lot of people that’s read this thread and not take the risk with you because of this incident.
Look, I understand protecting yourself and doing what’s necessary to stay safe. What I don’t understand is why you couldn’t still do that and let just one person know something, anything?
A simple message such as “having big issues, working on it, but will take time, I’ll be in touch” could have saved you a lot of grief.
Shit happens, just like what happened to you. It’s how you handle it that makes all the difference. This was handled very poorly.
I’ve never sourced and never will but from your posts I read so many mistakes you made (imo).
Taking preorders, leaving your safe spot to come to the US, close relationship with your reshipper, ghosting customers, all your eggs in one basket (wallet) with no safety net, and that’s just mentioning a few lol.
Use this as a lesson learned moving forward so it doesn’t happen again. That’s if you decide to try continue sourcing. Or just give up playing this game because you might not be cut out for it. I know I’m definitely not cut out for it
First things first though, take care of everyone you left hanging! That will put you back on the right path, plus it’s the right thing to do!
Good luck, keep us updated on getting this shit taken care of... even though you came back, the hard truth is; members already paid for your service and until that is settled, it’s still a potential scam.
Don’t be ‘that guy’ man.
Yeah that is the main thing I don't understand. One sentence such as "having issues and delays but I promise you will get your stuff by ...." could have avoided this entire situation.
That being said it is in the past and in my eyes it is forgivable as long as everything is made right. I will keep the thread updated because I believe everyone should be treated fairly, called on doing things wrong and acknowledged for doing things right.
I intend on having the stuff tested just to make sure it is the same quality as before. Because in this situation there might be an inclination to not do so, I have faith though that dyna will do the right thing and all products will be the same high standards as normal which is what made his business and customer service highly regarded in the first place.
You can't undo the past, but making things right would show a lot about dyna as a person and confirm what those who had faith in him believed to be true.
If anyone orders from this source before those that were shorted are taken care of then you are just as guilty as dyna for burning these guys, imo. His feet must be held to the fire to take care of these guys and the only way to do that is by using the possibility of future orders.
ExtremePIP
Subscriber
Hi, @bolder and @amtont; you guys are definitely correct.
However to put it fairly, you can only understand one's position when you have been in it.
There was a massive sense of hopelessness, did I think I could pay these customers back? I, myself had been "fucked over, ran down, betrayed" and I had little to even no money to my name. I can even say, at that point I had only $3500 USD in my personal savings account to finish paying bills and rent as well as daily living. Yes I am a poor man and on of the reasons this hit so hard was because suddenly; like "French Montana" said in the beginning of one of his songs was "would you rather never have it or have it and lose it". Honestly, even till now I wish I never had this even though I met all of you wonderful people on here and have all good memories on here - but they are just "memories".
Like I said before, this game entails a bunch of things that I never expected - extortion, betrayal, scams, and more. I think when everyone joins ME SO they have a naive sense of things, many of us including myself. Everyone thinks after the vetting process, everything is good or if a source does in fact leave - it is an exit scam/LE. I don't know if there has been source that has left and came back yet.
To put it simply, I wasn't even sure if I could pay you guys back. I don't know if one or two of you guys suffer with depression or anxiety, coupled with health issues. Sometimes when things get to overwhelming, you hide. It's kind of funny and coincidental, I was discussing this in Kim's Discord a long while back ago.
Yes, I understand the disappointment and the anger that I've caused. However I ask for this understanding, following up on what I said before: I didn't know and I still don't know how exactly I will pay everyone back, and with that in my mind and my own personal issues in my head I had to struggle to bring myself back on here. I couldn't come on here before, I was unsure that I could do anything to pay everyone back and I still am but I'm working with my factory right now that will send me on credit hopefully by Wednesday or Thursday. Do I know it to be concrete? No, and I have turned to other methods to make money and try to pay everyone back starting from the small orders? Of course.
This may piss people off but I wanted people to understand a few things referring back to my old post, in this game people send their money in hopes to receive (illegal) goods. The source is accepting money for (illegal) transactions, and if the source ends up getting scammed, or whatever the circumstances may be, it is a part of the game. However, everyone is held on their own moral compass.
When someone like me in my situation chooses to come back, with no money or a sales pitch - I think it's safe to assume it's on a moral standpoint.
I had nothing to give back in my own pockets, I was looking for any possible way.
I ask for time and forgiveness, you lot - my old good friends and hopefully still my good friends, will receive a refund.
@XKawN and everyone else:
As stated before, I am not taking orders... and I'm doubtful that anyone wants to order with me while I'm in debt. I would have to call whoever tries to order "stupid"..
It am unsure if I want to continue this business - taking a loss is one thing but losing more than you've gained is an entirely other thing.
Firstly, I want to get these refunds out of the way as quick as I can. Please be patient, I have messaged a few customers already - whoever hasn't messaged me yet please do so on wickr: ExtremePip.
Laatly, thank you guys for understanding. Much love,
Dyna
However to put it fairly, you can only understand one's position when you have been in it.
There was a massive sense of hopelessness, did I think I could pay these customers back? I, myself had been "fucked over, ran down, betrayed" and I had little to even no money to my name. I can even say, at that point I had only $3500 USD in my personal savings account to finish paying bills and rent as well as daily living. Yes I am a poor man and on of the reasons this hit so hard was because suddenly; like "French Montana" said in the beginning of one of his songs was "would you rather never have it or have it and lose it". Honestly, even till now I wish I never had this even though I met all of you wonderful people on here and have all good memories on here - but they are just "memories".
Like I said before, this game entails a bunch of things that I never expected - extortion, betrayal, scams, and more. I think when everyone joins ME SO they have a naive sense of things, many of us including myself. Everyone thinks after the vetting process, everything is good or if a source does in fact leave - it is an exit scam/LE. I don't know if there has been source that has left and came back yet.
To put it simply, I wasn't even sure if I could pay you guys back. I don't know if one or two of you guys suffer with depression or anxiety, coupled with health issues. Sometimes when things get to overwhelming, you hide. It's kind of funny and coincidental, I was discussing this in Kim's Discord a long while back ago.
Yes, I understand the disappointment and the anger that I've caused. However I ask for this understanding, following up on what I said before: I didn't know and I still don't know how exactly I will pay everyone back, and with that in my mind and my own personal issues in my head I had to struggle to bring myself back on here. I couldn't come on here before, I was unsure that I could do anything to pay everyone back and I still am but I'm working with my factory right now that will send me on credit hopefully by Wednesday or Thursday. Do I know it to be concrete? No, and I have turned to other methods to make money and try to pay everyone back starting from the small orders? Of course.
This may piss people off but I wanted people to understand a few things referring back to my old post, in this game people send their money in hopes to receive (illegal) goods. The source is accepting money for (illegal) transactions, and if the source ends up getting scammed, or whatever the circumstances may be, it is a part of the game. However, everyone is held on their own moral compass.
When someone like me in my situation chooses to come back, with no money or a sales pitch - I think it's safe to assume it's on a moral standpoint.
I had nothing to give back in my own pockets, I was looking for any possible way.
I ask for time and forgiveness, you lot - my old good friends and hopefully still my good friends, will receive a refund.
@XKawN and everyone else:
As stated before, I am not taking orders... and I'm doubtful that anyone wants to order with me while I'm in debt. I would have to call whoever tries to order "stupid"..
It am unsure if I want to continue this business - taking a loss is one thing but losing more than you've gained is an entirely other thing.
Firstly, I want to get these refunds out of the way as quick as I can. Please be patient, I have messaged a few customers already - whoever hasn't messaged me yet please do so on wickr: ExtremePip.
Laatly, thank you guys for understanding. Much love,
Dyna
Thanks for the explanation. I understand where you are coming from. I don't want to say my situation is the same because everyone is different so that would be disrespectful and insensitive. I have gotten volvulus as a complication from Crohn's disease and I will confirm what dyna has said that it is hell. These medical conditions certainly make existing anxiety and depression worse as well as the medications involved in treating them (prednisone, solumedrol, many types of painkillers etc..
Speaking from a personal perspective I still would have preferred to have been updated even if it is not what I wanted to hear ex: "I have no stuff and no money so I don't know what is going to happen." Just so I knew that you were aware of the situation and were going to try and fix it. People just assumed the worst which is that they got scammed, so even a simple message would have been better than nothing in my opinion. As someone who has at times let down others or had to back out of things due to medical difficulties though I understand how you felt the way that you did.
That being said coming back takes a certain amount of guts and assuming you follow through your promise will definitely say something about you as a person.
If there is any way I can assist you or help with some of the medical issues feel free to pm me or message me on wickr. I have had some of them and it is the field I work in so I know that it can be "dark and difficult" and feel as if you are on a island to say the least.
I look forward to you making this right and I will keep this updated as time goes on just so everyone is aware of what is happening.
@ExtremePIP firstly, I don’t like hearing members being scammed but that also goes for sources too man. When we hear a member trying to reverse scam a source they get called out and it’s known to everyone! We even ask for the source to provide proof so that member can be put on blast here.
Secondly, I personally would never want to be a source. So you are correct in saying I don’t understand your circumstances or the issues you’re personally going through.
Personal shit is just life man, everyone has problems so I don’t think that’s a valid excuse.
I will never understand the source aspect because I made a decision that I wouldn’t ever be a source. And the thought has never crossed my mind to even consider it honestly lol.
But you did make that decision bro. Sounds like it might have been a rash decision because you didn’t think everything all the way through.
With illegal shit I would think you’d have to consider all the bad, dirty, fucked up things that could occur and shit people will do for money. (Although I believe you’ve learned all this the hard way now and first hand from how it sounds).
So no, I don’t fully understand but I can’t feel sorry for you for something that you decided to do. You may not have chose this outcome but you did choose getting into the black market. All choices we make have consequences whether it be good ones or bad ones... Just being straight up here man, nothing personal.
I do commend you for stepping up and attempting to make things right. You could have easily just left shit the way it was, but you coming back and facing this shit is the right thing to do and it does speak about your character, imo.
@XKawN is asking the fellow members here not to order from you to hold you accountable for making this right. Which is totally understandable.
By taking orders in the position you’re currently in you’d be ‘robbing Peter to pay Paul’ so to speak, so that would only cause more problems.
It’s good to see you state that you’re not taking orders so that should nip all that mess in the bud.
Secondly, I personally would never want to be a source. So you are correct in saying I don’t understand your circumstances or the issues you’re personally going through.
Personal shit is just life man, everyone has problems so I don’t think that’s a valid excuse.
I will never understand the source aspect because I made a decision that I wouldn’t ever be a source. And the thought has never crossed my mind to even consider it honestly lol.
But you did make that decision bro. Sounds like it might have been a rash decision because you didn’t think everything all the way through.
With illegal shit I would think you’d have to consider all the bad, dirty, fucked up things that could occur and shit people will do for money. (Although I believe you’ve learned all this the hard way now and first hand from how it sounds).
So no, I don’t fully understand but I can’t feel sorry for you for something that you decided to do. You may not have chose this outcome but you did choose getting into the black market. All choices we make have consequences whether it be good ones or bad ones... Just being straight up here man, nothing personal.
I do commend you for stepping up and attempting to make things right. You could have easily just left shit the way it was, but you coming back and facing this shit is the right thing to do and it does speak about your character, imo.
@XKawN is asking the fellow members here not to order from you to hold you accountable for making this right. Which is totally understandable.
By taking orders in the position you’re currently in you’d be ‘robbing Peter to pay Paul’ so to speak, so that would only cause more problems.
It’s good to see you state that you’re not taking orders so that should nip all that mess in the bud.
ExtremePIP
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Thanks for your responses guys.
I have already made steps to refunding a couple of people, one being on SST.
@amtont
I just wanted to clarify why I never left a message, it would have made things easier but to be honest; I did have thoughts about just bailing. Like I said before, I had no money to pay for anything and barely had enough for my own daily living.
It would have been easier to just bail, and leave this all alone but my conscience wouldn't allow it. The biggest reason I came back here was the friends I made (friends being customers and close relations) and I felt extremely guilty to just leave even though I had no fault or control of the situation.
@bolder
Youve always been one for the cheeky responses
To be fair, in these circumstances: if another source had to face them - I would believe most... if not all would have bailed and jumped ship. I don't think anyone can be prepared for the most unexpected, and when everything hits the fan at once.. it makes a person hit rock bottom.
Honestly, I understand your points but I hope you can also understand mine. Yes, a few mistakes have been made - some of which were not my decision but rather my partner had the executive choice.. in terms of the domestic shipper being someone personal - my partner would not find someone and at that time I had no choice but to use someone close to me. I actually had 3 different shippers that we rotated from, the amount of power I had in decisions being made during the beginning was little. I can't elaborate too much on reasoning but that was one of the cases.
Thank you and please be patient while I work on refunding everyone! I will keep everyone updated, any questions can be directed to my Wickr.
Much love,
Dyna
I have already made steps to refunding a couple of people, one being on SST.
@amtont
I just wanted to clarify why I never left a message, it would have made things easier but to be honest; I did have thoughts about just bailing. Like I said before, I had no money to pay for anything and barely had enough for my own daily living.
It would have been easier to just bail, and leave this all alone but my conscience wouldn't allow it. The biggest reason I came back here was the friends I made (friends being customers and close relations) and I felt extremely guilty to just leave even though I had no fault or control of the situation.
@bolder
Youve always been one for the cheeky responses
To be fair, in these circumstances: if another source had to face them - I would believe most... if not all would have bailed and jumped ship. I don't think anyone can be prepared for the most unexpected, and when everything hits the fan at once.. it makes a person hit rock bottom.
Honestly, I understand your points but I hope you can also understand mine. Yes, a few mistakes have been made - some of which were not my decision but rather my partner had the executive choice.. in terms of the domestic shipper being someone personal - my partner would not find someone and at that time I had no choice but to use someone close to me. I actually had 3 different shippers that we rotated from, the amount of power I had in decisions being made during the beginning was little. I can't elaborate too much on reasoning but that was one of the cases.
Thank you and please be patient while I work on refunding everyone! I will keep everyone updated, any questions can be directed to my Wickr.
Much love,
Dyna
