EC Analytical Services

[SuperSwede]

They stole the company name from a real company. For me thats enough confirmation

 

[janoshik]

They stole the company name from a real company. For me thats enough confirmation

And they claimed that they never associated with them, yet on their 'result sheets' they claim they were founded in 1997.

If that was not enough a member of SST shared this:

Doesn't go well with their claim:

...we've never made claims to be Energy Control Spain...

Can someone bring me up to speed. I can find NO admission of EC lying.

Can someone reference this admission statement with a link to where it is.

@janoshik your time to shine bud. You stated they admitted to lying. Let’s see the reference to where it is.

I haven't seen it yet either.

Apparently evidence with EC ghosting everybody including their customers is not sufficient for you, Sir, so we will gladly provide -


Very well sugercoated, but admission.

And another one -

 

[Logan44551]

It was stated in multiple threads that EC admitted to lying. However, I see zero references to that statement of theirs.

Is this malicious gossip or is someone going to reference the source of their admission??? I have been away for a while and am trying to catch up.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/alibaba-hgh.134387998/page-30 post 599 is the only emails between jano and ec I have seen. Does not show them lying, but jano saying that they are lying. I have no idea what went on on Saturday I'm not on any other forums. If some one finds them bring cuaght in a lie feel free to post links. Until then I think jano is just grand ststanding as usual

 

[Logan44551]

And they claimed that they never associated with them, yet on their 'result sheets' they claim they were founded in 1997.

If that was not enough a member of SST shared this:

Doesn't go well with their claim:







Apparently evidence with EC ghosting everybody including their customers is not sufficient for you, Sir, so we will gladly provide -


Very well sugercoated, but admission.

And another one -

I can read the text on any of those, they are very blurry

 

[janoshik]

I can read the text on any of those, they are very blurry

You can keep clicking on the images and they will get bigger, Sir.

 

[Logan44551]

You can keep clicking on the images and they will get bigger, Sir.

I know the text is blurred and not readable

 

[Sdryx]

And they claimed that they never associated with them, yet on their 'result sheets' they claim they were founded in 1997.

If that was not enough a member of SST shared this:

Doesn't go well with their claim:







Apparently evidence with EC ghosting everybody including their customers is not sufficient for you, Sir, so we will gladly provide -


Very well sugercoated, but admission.

And another one -

The first pic of EC’s statement states that a member on their team provided FACTUAL data graphs which is against their policy in order to remain safe. They can get busted just like Analyzer did based on location information contained in the reports. There was no admission there.

The second pic of EC’s statement simply reiterates the first in that their team member went against EC’s policy and provided the FACTUAL data graphs.

You are spinning their statement as an admission when IT IS NOT!

 

[Sdryx]

I know the text is blurred and not readable

Download the imgur app to see the pics in full resolution.

 

[Sdryx]

So there is no admission of EC providing fake data.

I’m not trying to defend them, it’s just the truth.

The only concern is why are they ghosting now... Are they simply busy or are they exiting...

@EnergyControl where are you?

 

[janoshik]

The first pic of EC’s statement states that a member on their team provided FACTUAL data graphs which is against their policy. There is no admission there.

The second pic of EC’s statement simply reiterates the first in that their team member went against EC’s policy and provided the FACTUAL data graphs.

You are spinning their statement as an admission when IT IS NOT!

The factual data you are talking about are the images downloaded from a scientific article, Sir.

EC Analytical Services

Therefore admitting to posting those data is admitting to lying - they have even done so with an excuse in order to sugarcoat it.

We believe it to be fairly obvious even without the context, but apparently their narrative and communication techniques are perceived positively by some people.

So there is no admission of EC providing fake data.

I’m not trying to defend them, it’s just the truth.

The only concern is why are they ghosting now... Are they simply busy or are they exiting...

@EnergyControl where are you?

It is not the truth in our opinion, but you are free to interpret it as you will and spend your money with them, we just wanted to, and hopefully did, provide objective data for the people to decide on their own.

 

[Sullinatah]

So there is no admission of EC providing fake data.

I’m not trying to defend them, it’s just the truth.

The only concern is why are they ghosting now... Are they simply busy or are they exiting...

@EnergyControl where are you?

I haven’t received an email back form them since Saturday. Usually they respond within a day. I’m starting to wonder if they got spooked with analyzer being busted. I think EC were college kids as well.

 

[Millard]

For good reason. I would not trust energycontrol (at) tuta (dot) io because it is fraudulently using the company name of a well-established and respected analytical drug testing service in Spain in order to deceive customers and attract business.

The real company is:

Energy Control de la Asociación Bienestar y Desarrollo (ABD)
Carrer de Quevedo, 2 bajos,
08012 Barcelona
SPAIN

Tel: +34 93 289 05 30
URL: Energy Control

Drug Testing Service | International Energy Control

Email: info (at) energycontrol (dot) org
international (at) energycontrol (dot) org

we've never made claims to be Energy Control Spain, we just have two members who volunteered for them years ago and when they wanted to open up a domestic analytical service, this is what they came up with -- a mix of good memories and weird OPSEC ideas at the time. They have communications and still sometimes visit Spain, but we want to be clear we don't have any official ties or connections with this service.

This is fraud by any legal definition anywhere in the world.

If two former Google employees wanted to start a new company with an identical business model involving internet search, online advertising, etc. and decided to call the company Google, do you think anyone would take the company seriously as a legitimate company? Or would it be dismissed as a company attempting to defraud Google by deceiving and confusing customers?

If I put out a statement like yours, it would only make matters worse:

"We've never made claims to be Google California, we just have two employees who worked for them years ago and when they wanted to open up a domestic internet search service, this is what they came up with -- a mix of good memories and weird OPSEC ideas at the time. They have communications and still sometimes visit Google California headquarters, but we want to be clear we don't have any official ties or connections with this service."​

It was stated in multiple threads that EC admitted to lying. However, I see zero references to that statement of theirs.

I can find NO admission of EC lying.

Can someone reference this admission statement with a link to where it is.

If some one finds them bring cuaght in a lie feel free to post links.

Their name is a lie. ^^^

They stole the company name from a real company. For me thats enough confirmation

Bingo.

 

[Sdryx]

The factual data you are talking about are the images downloaded from a scientific article, Sir.

EC Analytical Services

Therefore admitting to posting those data is admitting to lying - they have even done so with an excuse in order to sugarcoat it.

We believe it to be fairly obvious even without the context, but apparently their narrative and communication techniques are perceived positively by some people.


It is not the truth in our opinion, but you are free to interpret it as you will and spend your money with them, we just wanted to, and hopefully did, provide objective data for the people to decide on their own.

I looked at all the pictures you referenced. They are NOT the same. Why are you stating that they were copied and pasted? Just hoping that someone like me would not actually take the time to compare side by side? They look similar but are NOT the same. That is not an opinion. That is a fact. Anyone can look at the link you posted previously and compare the pictures side by side. They look similar but ARE NOT copied and pasted.

This is fraud by any legal definition anywhere in the world.

If two former Google employees wanted to start a new company with an identical business model involving internet search, online advertising, etc. and decided to call the company Google, do you think anyone would take the company seriously as a legitimate company? Or would it be dismissed as a company attempting to defraud Google by deceiving and confusing customers?

If I put out a statement like yours, it would only make matters worse:

"We've never made claims to be Google California, we just have two employees who worked for them years ago and when they wanted to open up a domestic internet search service, this is what they came up with -- a mix of good memories and weird OPSEC ideas at the time. They have communications and still sometimes visit Google California headquarters, but we want to be clear we don't have any official ties or connections with this service."​

Their name is a lie. ^^^



Bingo.

I should have clarified. I AGREE their name is a LIE. I was referring to Jano stating that they admitted to providing fraudulent data graphs which Jano cannot prove they did.

 

[Sdryx]

Just for the record. I’m more or less pointing out Jano’s manipulation and subterfuge than trying to defend EC.

Jano will spin the next lab tester that comes along as well hoping he can pass false gossip along these forums without any evidence.

I agree EC stole a name and as such should be treated as dishonest as well based just on that.

 

[MindlessWork]

It sure is appearing that these 2 testing labs are taking advantage of Analyzer’s bust by swooping in at the most convenient time in my view. Dishonest ones at that.

 

[rpbb]

It sure is appearing that these 2 testing labs are taking advantage of Analyzer’s bust by swooping in at the most convenient time in my view. Dishonest ones at that.

Actually, ec has disappeared

 

[MindlessWork]

Actually, ec has disappeared

Most likely after being called out. Coincidence no?

 

[janoshik]

I looked at all the pictures you referenced. They are NOT the same. Why are you stating that they were copied and pasted? Just hoping that someone like me would not actually take the time to compare side by side? They look similar but are NOT the same. That is not an opinion. That is a fact. Anyone can look at the link you posted previously and compare the pictures side by side. They look similar but ARE NOT copied and pasted.



I should have clarified. I AGREE their name is a LIE. I was referring to Jano stating that they admitted to providing fraudulent data graphs which Jano cannot prove they did.

Thefore, Sir, do we understand that you do believe that the graphs provided by them were not created by simple modification of the images stolen from the study and are instead a genuine result of a forensic rHGH analysis?

 

[Sdryx]

Thefore, Sir, do we understand that you do believe that the graphs provided by them were not created by simple modification of the images stolen from the study and are instead a genuine result of a forensic rHGH analysis?

You stated they were inverted in color then copied and pasted. That is a LIE which I have documented.

Your strawman arguments are laughable and would be dismissed in court as IRRELEVANT!