readalot
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Let me make sure I save this one. This is great.
You think I am going after Elite? Haha.
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You think I am going after Elite? Haha.
readalot
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shake someone down
1. to get money from someone by using threats or tricks 2. to search a person…
Definition of SHAKEDOWN
an improvised bed (such as one made up on the floor); a boisterous dance; an act or instance of shaking someone down; especially : extortion… See the full definition
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Never happened. Inform yourself before you speak on matters.
Zebedee
Well-known Member
Yes mate I get that, but my point is why should members get pissed off by that?
Unless I’m missing something, this just seems to me to be getting weaponised in an ongoing clash.
iris
Well-known Member
Right, I think I need to go look at donation thread y'all talking about because all this seems to come from there.
I just don't know what created all this, but I obviously want to understand what was said and why.
How we go from donating to a charity to asking people to disclose they are sources/shills, etc.
This is mad.
I just don't know what created all this, but I obviously want to understand what was said and why.
How we go from donating to a charity to asking people to disclose they are sources/shills, etc.
This is mad.
readalot
Member
Correct. Grasping at anything at this point. Desparate.
T-Bagger
Elite
I was going off of what was being said, but if you even remotely went into source threads asking for them to donate to St. Jude’s, then you are getting deserved repercussions.shake someone down
1. to get money from someone by using threats or tricks 2. to search a person…dictionary.cambridge.org
Definition of SHAKEDOWN
an improvised bed (such as one made up on the floor); a boisterous dance; an act or instance of shaking someone down; especially : extortion… See the full definition
Never happened. Inform yourself before you speak on matters.
readalot
Member
musclesiege
Member
It’s hard to say that it doesn’t motivate you at all when it’s the first thing you asked about upon joining meso then started posting like it’s hot. The posts of opinions as facts and speaking as if you had first hand knowledge of some of your recommendations to then find out you don’t really have any first hand knowledge eroded your credibility with long time members early on. The sheer quantity of posts shows a focus on quantity.
I like that you pushed for testing as many others have and it’s the right thing. You respond to noons threads more than most. @Spaceman Spiff posts so much testing results that saves us time and money while giving us confidence in some products. He and many other members always push for harm reduction, testing, share first hand experiences, trials and errors, etc. sometimes it feels like instead of joining this cause you tried to take it over and be the face or talisman. As I’ve said there are some positives but your post volume, sometimes questionable advice, your self glorification, credentials varying from I never take stuff to oh wait I do since if I don’t my legitimacy is questioned, oh yeah I’m jacked, clear ego filling, trying to bash anyone that challenges you has just made you insufferable at times. Even now @iris usually has your back and she didn’t for once and questioned you so you’re trying to torch her too.
Just chill out, be a human, keep helping noobs, keep pushing for testing, ask for help or expertise from some that have more than you or in areas you don’t have it in. You can’t know it all because no one does so when you act like it and people call it out that’s why. I’m on here to learn and give advice where I feel I can or it’s needed and that’s the balance most strike.
T-Bagger
Elite
I think they just hate the guy, tbh.
readalot
Member
And this one...
More weaponized BS from the folks who will try to disrupt enhanced testing by any means. This is laughable.
More weaponized BS from the folks who will try to disrupt enhanced testing by any means. This is laughable.
Sicsemptyran
Member
I frankly find all the “back in my day” harrumph-ing on this forum to be such a hilariously overdone and intellectually boring line of thinking.
It reminds me all too much of my time in the military where new ways of thinking are snuffed out not because they’re wrong or ill intentioned, but because they are new. I cherish the memories of my time in, but it was that thinking which caused me to eventually get out and go over into the private sector where I could do good (and actually make real money).
Needless to say, one can hate Readalot and his crusade, but I do think you’re either being willfully ignorant or just plain dumb if you do not think that he’s genuinely passionate about what he’s doing.
Had he not asked QSC about donating, I wouldn’t have seen this drive going on or likely made a donation. So at least be happy for that, the kids, and recognize readalot isn’t ruining your previous forum or your lives.
It reminds me all too much of my time in the military where new ways of thinking are snuffed out not because they’re wrong or ill intentioned, but because they are new. I cherish the memories of my time in, but it was that thinking which caused me to eventually get out and go over into the private sector where I could do good (and actually make real money).
Needless to say, one can hate Readalot and his crusade, but I do think you’re either being willfully ignorant or just plain dumb if you do not think that he’s genuinely passionate about what he’s doing.
Had he not asked QSC about donating, I wouldn’t have seen this drive going on or likely made a donation. So at least be happy for that, the kids, and recognize readalot isn’t ruining your previous forum or your lives.
readalot
Member
I provide full disclosure for what I speak on and never deceive anyone or boast knowledge I don't have. If you have examples please share. Otherwise this is myth that was perpetuated by detractors. As soon as I brought up the idea of improved testing things quickly escalated here.
Thanks for your feedback.
narta
Member
iris
Well-known Member
Man, you beat me to it.
Thanks.
Thanks.
readalot
Member
Thanks for the QSC post. I did post my "answer" in the donation thread (see above)
For those interested see yesterday in Opti's thread as well.
Strange you guys (you, SS, etc) aren't aggrieved by the initial request by Dkland. In summary, you guys are full of shit and will stoop as low as possible to try to stop this thread and related threads and the work behind them.
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iris
Well-known Member
Spaceman disagrees with asking vendors for donations, which he says should be a voluntary thing.
Readalot doesn't see a problem asking for them and pushed for that, regardless.
This was perceived as egoistic rather than being based on altruistic, selfless motives.
And it all went from there: his agenda being about self promotion on one side and it being opposed primarily by members with undisclosed self interests on the other.
Something like that.
So you guys ended up on the Opti thread because he had made a donation, on the back of Readalot's intervention.
OK, now it all makes a bit more sense.
But still, it is a disagreement about how to go about obtaining something and/or giving it exposure, which became very personal and unrelated issues were dragged into it.
I hope a line can be drawn somewhere or, if that donations thread should continue, that maybe you all agree on how to do so.
Readalot doesn't see a problem asking for them and pushed for that, regardless.
This was perceived as egoistic rather than being based on altruistic, selfless motives.
And it all went from there: his agenda being about self promotion on one side and it being opposed primarily by members with undisclosed self interests on the other.
Something like that.
So you guys ended up on the Opti thread because he had made a donation, on the back of Readalot's intervention.
OK, now it all makes a bit more sense.
But still, it is a disagreement about how to go about obtaining something and/or giving it exposure, which became very personal and unrelated issues were dragged into it.
I hope a line can be drawn somewhere or, if that donations thread should continue, that maybe you all agree on how to do so.
T-Bagger
Elite
Wouldn’t a PM to the sources be more appropriate than publicly going to their threads? When you go into a source thread to ask them for a donation, that seems like coercion to me.
readalot
Member
Let's get it all out there.
Opti thread. Start here in the thread (above link). SS beaming at Opti's donation but flabbergasted that someone would go into a vendor's thread. The reason I went into Axle's thread is he said he never ventures out of his thread. This was after another donating member asked GA in his thread.
This is all clear BS trying to weaponize. The reader can make their own call.
Coercion? Look up that term.
Opti thread. Start here in the thread (above link). SS beaming at Opti's donation but flabbergasted that someone would go into a vendor's thread. The reason I went into Axle's thread is he said he never ventures out of his thread. This was after another donating member asked GA in his thread.
This is all clear BS trying to weaponize. The reader can make their own call.
Coercion? Look up that term.
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iris
Well-known Member
Fair enough.
It's a different way of going about things and you can find it disagreeable, or not.
Had they talked about it before engaging with sources and settled on how to, it could have been avoided.
iris
Well-known Member
Let's get it all out there.
Opti thread. Start here in the thread (above link). SS beaming at Opti's donation but flabbergasted that someone would go into a vendor's thread. The reason I went into Axle's thread us he said he never ventures out of his thread.
This is all clear BS trying to weaponize. The reader can make their own call.
OK, in the end they donated.
We can say thanks to you raising awareness and just going for it.
Other disagreed it should have been done that way.
But it's done.
Moving forward, how should this be conducted?
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