European Pharmaceuticals

[XmadXscientist]

774 test level 28days after last shot is perfectly acceptable to me.
Due to many circumstances I've yet to pull test levels closer to injection day. Maybe after this cycle.

D10

I think it went woosh right over his head.

 

[bickel29]

774 test level 28days after last shot is perfectly acceptable to me.
Due to many circumstances I've yet to pull test levels closer to injection day. Maybe after this cycle.

D10

I think it went woosh right over his head.

Well, a lot of people in the AAS community see test levels as a static number, lacking the knowledge or patience to factor in the MANY variables involved when interpreting the "quality" of the test result. They hear something less than 2k and immediately claim it to be a less than desirable result.

Over the years here we have been so guilty of calling for sources heads, unfairly, over blood test results that were not interpreted accurately.

 

[anfee]

Dude I clearly just said I only am commenting this bc proton is known for messing up. Read my post again.

You definitely were not clear enough in your post...


Lulz. Jk.

 

[SamuelJones]

774 test level 28days after last shot is perfectly acceptable to me.
Due to many circumstances I've yet to pull test levels closer to injection day. Maybe after this cycle.

D10

dude how do u feel with 774

last I checked I was 833 and I feel and look like shit, shit sex drive, no apatite, nervousness, anxiety, limp dick pubes falling out I make okay gains when I have enough calories but I gain and lose weight to me anything under 1000 is low given how I feel, I couldn't imagine being on trt and only having enough to replace what I already shut down, that shit would make me depressed as hell

 

[SamuelJones]

Well, a lot of people in the AAS community see test levels as a static number, lacking the knowledge or patience to factor in the MANY variables involved when interpreting the "quality" of the test result. They hear something less than 2k and immediately claim it to be a less than desirable result.

Over the years here we have been so guilty of calling for sources heads, unfairly, over blood test results that were not interpreted accurately.

I guess it's just my perspective. If I ever start I'm doing 500 ml a week.

 

[XmadXscientist]

500 ml a week

If you find a way to pin that amount then you win everything.

 

[SamuelJones]

If you find a way to pin that amount then you win everything.

lmfao

 

[XmadXscientist]

Well, a lot of people in the AAS community see test levels as a static number, lacking the knowledge or patience to factor in the MANY variables involved when interpreting the "quality" of the test result. They hear something less than 2k and immediately claim it to be a less than desirable result.

Over the years here we have been so guilty of calling for sources heads, unfairly, over blood test results that were not interpreted accurately.

If this was regular test e or cyp being pinned weekly at cycle dosage that would be one thing, but he’s pinning once a month. I also use testosterone undecanoate once a month at 500mg per shot. Haven’t checked levels but I’m crushing life.

Undecanoate has a half life of 90 days with a standard deviation of 45 days I believe per bayer’s research. If you already knew this my apologies for the redundancy.

 

[XmadXscientist]

dude how do u feel with 774

last I checked I was 833 and I feel and look like shit, shit sex drive, no apatite, nervousness, anxiety, limp dick pubes falling out I make okay gains when I have enough calories but I gain and lose weight to me anything under 1000 is low given how I feel, I couldn't imagine being on trt and only having enough to replace what I already shut down, that shit would make me depressed as hell

Do you know what your thyroid levels are off cycle?

 

[Diesel10]

If this was regular test e or cyp being pinned weekly at cycle dosage that would be one thing, but he’s pinning once a month. I also use testosterone undecanoate once a month at 500mg per shot. Haven’t checked levels but I’m crushing life.

Undecanoate has a half life of 90 days with a standard deviation of 45 days I believe per bayer’s research. If you already knew this my apologies for the redundancy.

Can you please link half life info?
I've seen SO much conflicting info on Test U half life not sure what to believe

@SamuelJones
My natty test at 40ish years old is 300, so 774 feels pretty awesome!
I loose no gains, more importantly no adverse side affects. I'm in it for life, my health/quality of life is my main priority.

D10

 

[bigdeadweight]

Been on Nebido for about a decade now, generally it is great, but I want to try and increase from 12 week shot to maybe 10, so am thinking of a range of bloods to track how it goes over the 12 weeks. For everyone info, check out the manufacturers page for some useful info and calculators - Testosterone Conversion Tool - Nebido - Testosterone Undecanoate - and go to health professional site

 

[pharmacist]

@pharmacist Are you still using the same Email? I sent an inquiry but never heard back. Also, is the current list up to date? Thanks.

Sorry for the late reply sir!
Current list is on page 245:

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/european-pharmaceuticals.134354259/page-245

Emails are all replied!

Best Regards

 

[pharmacist]

@pharmacist I'm not trying to be one of those guys. I'm ONLY commenting this because I know proton is known for its issues but I sent you an email and usually you answer within a day. Again. Not trying to be one of those guys, I just know proton is known for screwing up and not getting emails

Good Day sir!
Sorry for the late reply. I just replied all emails, indeed Proton was acting up and even slow. If you did not get a reply please resend your email to Countermail.

Best regards

 

[pharmacist]

He's busy he has a life and responsibilities outside the meso just like we all do, and getting these products to us requires a lot of care and dillegence as not to draw unwanted attention. All that is time consuming. There is no reason to be concerned.

Thank you for your appreciation

No harm done

Best Regards!

 

[pharmacist]

TD everything accounted for plus extra. Thank you very much Sir !

Thank you for your feedback! Still makes me happy to see such )

 

[pharmacist]

You do realize he’s using a long acting test in testosterone undecanoate for trt purposes and pinning once a month? That value puts him at high normal.

Exactly!!!!

 

[pharmacist]

I assume most on this board have similar goals and the guys on TRT are just on it for the sake of having a prescription to fall back on in case all goes wrong and steroids are no longer accessible or they have been shut down for good. I'm doing this for extremely good results.

Whatever floats each ones boat! Right?

 

[Diesel10]

Been on Nebido for about a decade now, generally it is great, but I want to try and increase from 12 week shot to maybe 10, so am thinking of a range of bloods to track how it goes over the 12 weeks. For everyone info, check out the manufacturers page for some useful info and calculators - Testosterone Conversion Tool - Nebido - Testosterone Undecanoate - and go to health professional site

Thanks for link.

But this is exactly what I mean,

"the release rate is characterised by a half life of 90±40 days"

Wtf does that mean??!! Lol


D10

 

[XmadXscientist]

Thanks for link.

But this is exactly what I mean,

"the release rate is characterised by a half life of 90±40 days"

Wtf does that mean??!! Lol


D10

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It means metabolism of the compound varies greatly between individuals. 90 days is the average, some people it will be 50 days and for others it can be up to 130. Does this answer your question?

 

[17Alpha]

Thanks for link.

But this is exactly what I mean,

"the release rate is characterised by a half life of 90±40 days"

Wtf does that mean??!! Lol


D10

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It describes the fluctuation in reaching peak blood serum concentration after a steady state in individuals, which should ideally be low. Peak Trough Fluctuation is usally a measurment of how addicting pain killers are. High Fluctuation-> High Dopamine Respone->High Chance of addiction