Experienced gh users question.

In my estimation from user feedback here, no clear correlation between GH side effects and two things: 1) pharma vs UGL; and 2) dimer content.

But these are the first things everyone turns to.

In my opinion and experience, more reasonable explanations are: 1) dose; and 2) lifestyle (diet, hydration, cardio, & sleep).
So I have no experience with pharma but with the UGL gh, Im not sure if I’m allowed to name a UGL source on this board but they carry gray tops and black tops. I used the black tops which were cheaper for a while and got horrible cts, bloating, exhausted, etc. Switched to gray tops and most of that went away. I ran out of gray tops recently and went right back to the black tops and all the horrible sides came back, went to the grays and they went away again. Both lines tested with relatively no dimer and very pure. Im not sure what causes the difference but there was a pretty big one

Edit: I did go back and check labs on the black tops and they were tested in 2023, before jano updated his gh testing to be more sensitive to dimer so they could definitely contain some. The gray tops were tested april 2024 with 0 dimer so I guess that could be the key, but then again I’ve been told pharma gh is allowed to have a specific amount of dimer as well
 
Take extended releases tablet and start from 1000mg a day.

To me Metformin didn't keep BG low enough, GLP1 instead did the job.

Tried only semaglutide for now and at 1mg a week I had perfect BG on 4IU of HGH.

I'm increasing to 10IU soon and switched to tirz probably gonna use 5mg a week, we will see how it goes with the BG
 
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