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[Big_paul]

We have a harm reduction issue here. Buggers and tribbles in our gear.

 

[Dema]

No. We're not going to have advertisements in the signature.

Better?

 

[Big_paul]

@Millard Baker I just have to say this. Why is it that the lab that does out testing for anaboliclab went offline when Luca sent in his vial. It seems fishy. Maybe a pay off. Money corrupts absolutely. Maybe it's only coincidence.

 

[Big_paul]

Better?

Millard just nixxed it. I thought it was a good idea.

 

[insertnamehere]

@Achilles26 , what are you looking to get out of this ordeal?

If it turns out PCom is at fault, how wold you like PCom to compensate you?

If no definitive conclusion can be made, where it comes down to merely taking a side of who to believe, do you feel PCom should compensate you? Why or why not?

 

[Achilles26]

@Achilles26 , what are you looking to get out of this ordeal?

If it turns out PCom is at fault, how wold you like PCom to compensate you?

If no definitive conclusion can be made, where it comes down to merely taking a side of who to believe, do you feel PCom should compensate you? Why or why not?

I'm not really looking for any compensation. I said at the beginning of the thread that I feel I did not cause said issue and I think that PCom as a good business practice should look into the matter. If it is only an isolated incident than okay l, fine. But, if there was something in their raws then that is a much bigger issue. Not only for myself but any other member who uses Pharmatropin.

If nothing at all comes of this, I hope that PCom will in general try and make a better effort on the quality control front. I chose them because they seemed to be the best source when it came to quality with all of the lab results being posted etc.

But if they want to fly me some free gear (or a large PCom tshirt ) I'm not going to say no to it.

 

[Achilles26]

And as a side note I am still planning to continue to use their GH along with the boatload of test,tren and var I have stocked away... I will just make sure to inspect each vial before and after each injection.

 

[Dane17]

Sorry if I missed this- are you sure you reconstituted with a clean needle? Looks a little like clot.....maybe clot in particulate solution?

I don't use this product, just curious.

Achilles, I appreciate the objective manner in which you presented this.

 

[Achilles26]

@Dane17 running a little low, but I always use a fresh one

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[IwantToGetBig.Frank]

@Dane17 running a little low, but I always use a fresh one

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Lol! You're prepared....

Frank

 

[Docd187123]

The reason I ask if you know the reps is because you were first to back pcom @Docd187123. Are you a rep as well?

Nice try

 

[Big_paul]

Ah that was nothing

 

[XKawN]

Nice try

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Wtf, your chinese?

 

[Docd187123]

Bumpity bump

No not at all. I'm not not a source. You can look high and low, and you will never find one member past or present who I have sold gear to. I'm old fashioned, I only source in gyms.

Correction. There are 2 members but they haven't been active for years and they train in the gyms I train in. 100% honesty here

I'm admitting that I source in gyms, my gear doesn't have shit floating in it and never crashes. But Dema, you see, I like being a member and once you source on meso, can never be a member again. I grew mary jane for 30 years too. It's a job. Apples and oranges.

You get started looking for the members that I sold gear to.

 

[Genghis K.]

What a thread. This reminds me of MESO from a couple of years ago.
IDK. I highly doubt Pharmacom would invest so heavily in expanding their business only to begin selling junk gear on purpose. There are few reasons to do that, but one is to "juice" profits right before folding up shop.

 

[PHL Official]

It was not ontop of the powder. I assume it was inside the puck and reconstituting is what revealed it.

I have checked my Hospira BW water and there's nothing weird in it. I have already reconstituted (with the same BW water) and been pinning a vial of Pharmatropin from my newest order with no mysterious floaters.

I'm just waiting for Frank and their team to review the pictures I sent to them. After that I will do whatever they want me to do with the vial.

I didn't use their sterile water. I use Hospira Bacteriostatic Water because I had read it was cleaner and will keep for longer.

I reconstituted at 4 am, rolled it in my hands gently to get the powder to start dissolving and then stuck it in my fridge for 10 minutes. When I took it out of the fridge I saw that thing floating in it.

Even if I was the one who contaminated it, I don't think a bacterial growth could get that big in 10 minutes. - but in no scientist

Maybe it isn't bacteria... you said you called them and verified that nothing in their bac water could've reacted to GH? Maybe they don't know, maybe they've never gotten a call from a steroid/peptide user regarding this... the only way to find out what it is would be to have a lab that specializes in fungus/mold/bacteria etc... put it under the microscope and figure out what's in it. Does simec even take opened vials? Just to see what it is?

I doubt they'd ship out a separate vial... It would almost be pointless with the shipping costs etc. However, it would be good to figure out what it is. As Frank said it could be from their raws provider, which could result in more problems in the future.

I don't care if I get 1 vial for free... I just had 20 land the other day

It looks like droplets of blood.
Which can definitely grow mold.
It could have formed above the water line on the inside of the vile then dropped to the bottom after being shaken. Who knows though?

I'm not really looking for any compensation. I said at the beginning of the thread that I feel I did not cause said issue and I think that PCom as a good business practice should look into the matter. If it is only an isolated incident than okay l, fine. But, if there was something in their raws then that is a much bigger issue. Not only for myself but any other member who uses Pharmatropin.

If nothing at all comes of this, I hope that PCom will in general try and make a better effort on the quality control front. I chose them because they seemed to be the best source when it came to quality with all of the lab results being posted etc.

But if they want to fly me some free gear (or a large PCom tshirt ) I'm not going to say no to it.

the case is being investigated. First of all, our warehouse guys spent several hours to visually check each vial of HGH. They shook and turned down every vial in our warehouse. No visual deviations found or extraneous bodies have been found. For the entire almost 10 years history of Pharmacom on the market, considering millions of customers all over the world, similar cases have never been reported. We had rubber pieces in oil, we changed caps suppliers to ensure better caps quality. We had and still can have crashed gear, which can easily occur with any product at low temperature. But never something like this and never ever any contaminated products. We indeed do not see any reason why and how the thing could get inside, does not matter what nature is it of. I perfectly understand that these words said by manufacturer do not mean anything to lot of you. It is comprehensible. However, Pharmacom always stands behind its products, so, we replace the full kit independent on the reasons what is inside and how did it get in there. I have seen the production, I have been once on the factory where our raw powder is produced, just can`t really imagine any scenario how the thing could get inside. At the same time i have to admit, that I can not be 100% be sure that all production regulations have been followed by the third-side manufacturer, just because this is not our production and we do not own it, we do mot observe the entire production cycle. But we have own filling line and own filters, so even if theoretically something was in the raws, it would be filtered in our facility during the filling procedure. This is already what we can be sure about. At this stage we have not found any deviations in ready products and in our filling line and the filling process of vials. We are in touch with the raws supplier, waiting for comments.
My personal opinion is based on my experience. I though similar thing in oil, when coagulated blood got inside the vial, for me it looks like a clot of blood. I asked Achilles not to throw out the vial, it might be useful for us soon. Also, I do not think that the thing inside has a bacterial nature. Achilles used bacteriostatic water of some other manufacturer, so it shall be pretty obvious that bacteria could not grow inside. The thing is not of bacterial nature for sure. This is all i can say for now.
It any case Pharmacom always responsible for its products, customers can be sure that they do not loose their money and we always fix any possible mess up from our side (let it be wrong items delivered, leaking/broken/missing vials or any other issue) and often help to solve issues caused not by us.

 

[CdnGuy]

What a thread. This reminds me of MESO from a couple of years ago.
IDK. I highly doubt Pharmacom would invest so heavily in expanding their business only to begin selling junk gear on purpose. There are few reasons to do that, but one is to "juice" profits right before folding up shop.

huh when I read this post all I can envision is the Wal Mart of steroids lol cheap shit

 

[japajay]

huh when I read this post all I can envision is the Wal Mart of steroids lol cheap shit

Lol and PC has by far the most expensive test

 

[Milk Man]

Lol and PC has by far the most expensive test

I guess you havent looked around much ? Pharmacom isnt the highest, ive seen more exspensive

 

[Oregongearhead]

We have a harm reduction issue here. Buggers and tribbles in our gear.