Finasteride [5ARI] Induced/Associated Effects

Discussion in 'Men's Health Forum' started by madclown, Dec 19, 2006.

  1. Madlib

    Madlib Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    Will I be ok though? It's been 4 months since i quit now, and I have had a couple of nights where it's felt like a total crash. I want to understand what could be wrong more, as you never know, it might not even be finasteride. Does a sudden drop in libido point towards my hormones?
     
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  3. Madlib

    Madlib Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    Thanks,

    I have looked through a lot of that sort of stuff and all I have concluded is that I should probably get my thyroid and prostate checked, I will have to convince the doc next time i see him, unless of course I don't have to see him because I have recovered.
     
  4. Madlib

    Madlib Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    Anymore input would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  6. Madlib

    Madlib Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    I have booked another appointment with my GP here in the UK to discuss my symptoms once again, and I will now ask for a referral to a Endocrinologist so that I can check up on all my hormones, if he doesn't take me very seriously then I am not sure what to do. I am tempted to use the last of my savings and try to see Hertoghe in Brussels, if I can't do that then I think the only way out is self medicating and hoping for the best.

    At the moment I am sort of giving my GP my symptoms and mentioning my hormones etc but not putting any pressure on him for exactly what to test, would it be better if I did this? I think it may be better to save all the talk of thyroid, adrenal fatigue or whatever it may be until I am with a specialist.

    There are also a couple of other symptoms I would like to mention which I didn't previously:

    . Some sharp but brief sharp pains (0.5/1 seconds) in the underside of arms and in the pelvic region, and general joints in the upper body

    . Different coloured stool – often green/ light brown, with a very poor consistency that is hard to flush away

    Any comments on these? the dodgy crap is surely a sign of some sort of problem with the liver/ digestion

    Any help will be greatly appreciated and if there are any UK users on here that have encountered good endo's/ uro's/ neurologists and have names please PM me
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2010
  7. zossima

    zossima Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    Do you have cold sweats during the night ?
     
  8. Madlib

    Madlib Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    Not really, I am sweating profusely in the night but it is boiling hot here so pretty much every guy is that doesn't have a good fan or air conditioning. I have got cold sweats during exercise but nothing major. Why?
     
  9. zossima

    zossima Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a


    I'm in the same situation as you, quited finasteride 15 months ago and was left in pretty bad situation, low libido, ED,insomnia, weakness, depression. During the first month or 2 after quiting I had freezing night sweats and woke up every 2 hours in a very exalted state, kind of like having a panic attack. after trying 4 docs i finally found one that knew about andrology, i got tested i had less then half the testosterone i had, boderline low free testosterone and low LH and FSH.

    I'm feeling better right now, but still not completely recovered.

    I asked this because night sweats is one common symptom of low estrogen, if a guy has low estrogen most likely he also has low Testosterone since estrogen is made from testosterone (in men).

    Your testosterone production might be partially or severely suppressed and causing all those symptoms.

    I imagine you didn't feel half as bad as you do now while you where on finasteride.

    my advice: consult with a competent and caring doctor that know about androgens, you might have some trouble finding one that might recognize that finasteride messed up your hormones, even more probable if you don't have base line values to compare with, by a fluke of luck i measured my total Testosterone before taking the drug. Also try catch some sun every day, it's minor, but it helps to produce testosterone.

    cheers.
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2010
  10. Madlib

    Madlib Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    I need the most effective list of hormone tests, can somebody help me? related to my symptoms, and finasteride use. Thanks.
     
  11. Madlib

    Madlib Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    I forgot all about this thread, so here's an update:

    At my last doctors appointment I told him about the consistently bad stool, and I gave in a stool sample. I don't know if it will be a full stool analysis or just a culture, hopefully it's a full analysis and if it isn't i will request one. Unfortunately my doctor is away for 3 weeks apparently so I am going to have to wait a little while to see him again, will he still have the results from the stool sample when he's back? I gave it in a week ago.

    It is probably appropriate to update my symptoms too as things are different as they stand.

    The problem where I would get into bed, try to fall asleep and go dizzy and have muscle twitches and heart palpitations seems to be disappearing. However that's not to say my sleep is getting any better, in fact it's probably worse. Now I can often drift off to sleep without a problem, but I will never sleep for more than 3 hours straight and I will wake up feeling totally awake, I will feel what I can best describe as an 'inside tremor', my muscles often feel most fatigued and achey around this time too.

    Stool is still very poor - it differs between, loose, very small and hard to flush away, very dark, yellow, bitty, and most recently a few have looked fluffy. I'm sorry to be so gross, but I think my stool is telling me something which is why I am eager to investigate this symptom.

    Penis numbness is still there, both in it's flaccid state and when it's erect, the interesting thing though, is that pleasure is still great and before I was having a real time getting to the point of ejaculation, now it seems much more normal. Visibly, it's not looking so great; the tip is often very pale and has a red areas, if I press on the tip it will go extremely pale and discolored for a few seconds. I can't help but feel there is a lack of blood flow.

    When things are bad at night and I can't sleep/ feel like crap I just do my best to try and get 4-5 hours, and I seem to re cooperate in the day and feel OK. I can go for runs and work out and still feel fit, but the last time I worked out properly I felt absolutely terrible for 3 days afterwards. My libido seems to have improved, and I am keen to have sex sometimes 3-4 times a day but there is occasional erectile dysfunction, more than normal.
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2010
  12. Madlib

    Madlib Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    Any help?
     
  13. Madlib

    Madlib Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    UPDATE:

    I went to the doctor again on Monday and he said the stool sample that I gave in was abolsutely fine, I then proceeded to tell him about my sleeping problems and he prescribed me CITALOPRAM. I have scheduled another appointment in 2 days and I am going to ask if I can use WELLBUTRIN instead because of my concerns about sexual side effects - espescially considering that's one of the big reasons I am even visint him in the first place.

    I am at a bit of a crossroads here and I just want as much advice as possible...

    Do I try the Wellbutrin for a month to see if it helps my anxiety over these problems, and hope that it may bring sexual/ libido benefits too?

    Do I keep trying these useless doctors who won't give me the tests I need on the NHS and hop that i come across one that will give me the testing I need?

    Or.. What I would like to do:

    Treat myself based on my symptoms and only treat myself with relatively safe drugs and supplements?

    I am looking at:

    GHB
    tamoxifen
    clomid

    As possible treatments, what do you think?
     
  14. musulman

    musulman Banned

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    Before going on the drug route, there may be someon who can help you out using natural herbal methods.

    Send me a pm if interested.
     
  15. Madlib

    Madlib Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    Do you have any particular ideas?

    I currently take:

    - Omega 3 fish oil daily
    - 1000 iu vit D 2x daily
    - 30mg Zinc daily

    My sleep is currently bad too and if I dont have Timed release Melatonin and 5 htp I have poor sleep. 5 htp and melatoning vies me a deep sleep with dreams.

    I have also cycled - l-arginine, tribulus and ZMA, Sustain alpha and Toco 8

    I just doubt that herbal remedies will have any lasting effect, the best thing so far has probably been tribulus and valium for 7 days and I felt very good.

    I have probably looked into everything and I am thinking about pregnenolone cream.
     
  16. Madlib

    Madlib Junior Member

    Re: Low Libido, numbing, aching and sleeping problems - I quit finasteride 4 months a

    I just woke up as usual 3 hours into sleep, sweating and feeling 'on edge' and quite jittey. No matter how relaxed my mind when I get to sleep I awake and feel anxious, heart is pounding but it feels like it's working a little harder than usual.
     
  17. The_Skeptic

    The_Skeptic Junior Member

    Mainstream media finally realizing propecia can make you impotent


    Young men could be risking their sexual health by taking the world's best selling anti-baldness drug, claim some doctors.

    They say finasteride - sold in this country as Propecia - can cause serious side effects and that the drug's labelling is inadequate.

    Male pattern baldness affects six and a half million people in the UK. It's estimated that a quarter of men will start showing signs in their twenties.

    James, 26, from Edinburgh was one of them.


    BBC - Newsbeat - Baldness drug Propecia 'risking men's sexual health'
     
  18. CubbieBlue

    CubbieBlue Member

    Re: Mainstream media finally realizing propecia can make you impotent

    Good stuff.
     
  19. Michael Scally MD

    Michael Scally MD Doctor of Medicine

    Re: Mainstream media finally realizing propecia can make you impotent

    I would hope this would lead to some intensive R&D, but it does not appear that Merck will not be doing anything soon. This deserves some attention.

     
  20. avanti

    avanti Junior Member

    Re: Mainstream media finally realizing propecia can make you impotent

    Do you think Merck has the resources to do anything about this if forced to?
     
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