First cycle Dbol/Deca/Test E.

[SancToxxo]

Hello people of Meso.

First off I want to give an intro about my self and say this is my first time posting in this forum, so take it easy on me if this turns out to be the wrong section/place to ask.

I'm 21 years old and have never ran a cycle. I've been training for 3 years straight and have gotten my diet and training dialed in almost perfectly.

Recently I've decided to go on a Dbol/Deca/Test E cycle and was wondering what to use for PCT along which AI'S to use during the cycle, as I think I'm somewhat prone to gyno.

So the cycle is:
-Week 1-12 Test E 500mg/week
-Week 1-8 Deca 400mg/week
-Week 1-6 Dbol 30mg/day
-Arimidex 0.5mg EOD (up to 1mg depending on symptoms)

Weeks 13 and 14 I'll be taking nothing (except maybe Arimidex for 0.5mg EOD).

Then the PCT is something like 3 weeks on Clomid and/or Nolva. Letro??

I'm a complete sucker when it comes to PCT and not sure whether this is a solid one.

The question is: Is this PCT suitable for the cycle I'll be running? Considering I'll be using Deca alongside Dbol and Test? And if not, what should it consist of?

Also, I wouldn't dream of running the cycle unless I've got all the areas covered.

Any input on the CYCLE would be greatly appreciated, however, please do not try to convince me against the use of AAS as I have pretty much made up my mind.

Thanks.

 

[Walker]

First, you dont have your height or weight, Second, your way too young to be fucking with your hormones...Third, PCT is usually 4 weeks long... Fourth, you clearly havent reasearched enough on anything....

No offense but this is likely what most will tell you...21 is way too young ...your still growing , you already have hormones raging through your body.

If you've already made up your mind because your a big boy, then big boys should be able to figure all this out on your own...

 

[Xodusforever]

Lol dbol as a first cycle.m

Before you take on one of the most notoriously aromatizing substances we have, why don't learn what test / estro sides feel like first with test only cycles?

You will be on the gyno trai, guarenteed, if you don't learn a lot more before you take dbol / test / deca.

What would you do if you got gyno, and you're drinking anti-e's and your tits get bigger? Serious question, because you threw deca in there, and if you hop on nolva after deca you will get prolactin sides / prolactin induced gyno.

Your not ready man, I can tell you your first bad time is like a car accident - you will realize all the mistakes you made after the damage is already done.

 

[SancToxxo]

Lol dbol as a first cycle.m

Before you take on one of the most notoriously aromatizing substances we have, why don't learn what test / estro sides feel like first with test only cycles?.....

Hi Xodus,

Thank you for your input.

So you're suggesting that I dump the Deca/Dbol and stick with the Test? If so, what would the PCT be like?

Good thing you stated the prolactin issue. I forgot to add the use of caber whilist on cycle to counter the deca effects. However, Nolva and clomid is going to be used loong after I've stopped the use of deca (6 weeks since il be sotpping deca at week 8).

Please feel free to list any bad experiences you might have had while using those compounds.

Thanks.

 

[SancToxxo]

First, you dont have your height or weight, Second, your way too young to be fucking with your hormones...Third, PCT is usually 4 weeks long...

Here we go again

I ask for help and someone just bashes for no reason. Had your post been more respectful I would've taken it more seriously, otherwise you're regarded as a troll.

Thanks for posting anyway .

 

[Xodusforever]

I just want you to get to my age, and be able to blast away without issues. I'm not trying to be harsh or anything.

You're going to do what you're going to do anyways right? Might as well do it safely.

Prolactin and estro control - check.
Pct - check. some can't handle clomid and use torem instead, if you can't handle clomid sides, check out torem.

Don't ignore itchies or weird feeling in and around your chest tissue while on dbol.

And good luck.

 

[Walker]

Buddy im not trolling you...i could care less if you want to harm yourself...it just wasnt what you wanted to hear...when you grow up you'll understand when someone is genuinely trying to keep your good health in mind...

I get the fact your gonna do it anyways....but if your gonna state it that way you wont be getting any advice from me other that what ive already said.. I look forward to seeing your gyno pictures in the future...

Here we go again

I ask for help and someone just bashes for no reason. Had your post been more respectful I would've taken it more seriously, otherwise you're regarded as a troll.

Thanks for posting anyway .

 

[SancToxxo]

I get the fact your gonna do it anyways....but if your gonna state it that way you wont be getting any advice from me other that what ive already said.. I look forward to seeing your gyno pictures in the future...

I truly appreciate any input on this particular topic whether it was trolling or not.

But can you ignore the fact that I'm "still young" in a sense and shed some light on as to why this is a bad idea?

Also, how would the outcome be any different (in terms of gyno) had I waited instead of jumping on gear now.

Any past experiences can help.

Thanks

 

[Walker]

if this is your first cycle....stick with test only... 500mg a week...then you can research while or after and decide to throw another compound otherwise you will never know how your body react to each compound because if you do 3 compounds at one how will you know which one is fucking with you...

im still not suggesting you should but if you insist thats the advice I would give as others have given me...

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

Your too young to start cycling gear. There's no need for you to use steroids at this point in your life. Train hard and eat good and eat a lot max out your natural potential then in about 8 or 9 years research a test only cycle for 12 wks 500 mg per wk. What your planning here is just really a bad idea. First cycles should always be test alone. No one under 28 should even consider running gear imo.

 

[Xodusforever]

I'm with deltoid on this - you have your whole life ahead of you. Trust me when I say, even if I had gear when I was your age, there is no way I could've used it to the potential I am now. And I mean no offense when I say this, but people your age aren't known for the most responsible choices.

Max out natty first IMHO. Your body at 30 can be so much more with gear if you max out natty first.

 

[Kevevans34]

You are to young bro to take anything your should already have a high test level I waited tell I was in my 30tys to do my first cycle in my early twenties it was easy to put on size and get stronger by just eating right and eating a lot maybe you should try to change your diet and train different

 

[mission2]

Imo that's overkill. At least drop the deca.

 

[Kevevans34]

I do that cycle but I run 50 ml dbol 500 deca 500 test but I'm 37 and have lots of cycles under my belt my first i only ran test 250 a week and got a lot of gains im also 37 yr old 220 and 5'10 he is way to young for all that I never had problems getting strong at that age

 

[A-a-Ron]

I know you are going to do it, as everyone else does. But listen to one piece of advice. TEST ONLY. If for no other reason, you are going to gain a minimum of ten pounds. Don't be the guy that in seven weeks looks all puffy and bloated in the gym. Take your time and run a nice steady test cycle.

 

[A-a-Ron]

Also, you are 21. You should be drinking a lot of beer. Oral steroids and a lot of beer do not mix.