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Some guys make their own meal replacement shakes. Chicken breast shakes are apparently alright but I haven't tried it. At first glance it's gnarly but it's just chicken soup minus the salty broth. You can throw rice in there too. Just shake it up before each sip. I'm assuming you have time to drink while you're working.
Good idea lol
 
I do whey protein with Costco macadamia nut milk and 2% lactose free milk. It’s 40p and 10f and 13c. I toss it in a shaker bottle and that’s 2 of my “meals” per day. Taste awesome, plenty of good fats but kinda low carb. If you’re bulking and need to add carbs I have tossed strait rice in there without it being to icky. Two shaker bottles in your little cooler bag can get you to 6 meals. The only reason I bring it up is I can feel the difference when I switched up to 5-6 meals years back, muscle fullness, fat burning, ect…. Everything just went up a notch.

Cool side effect of eating more is that tired of eating on a bulk feeling is also way lessened with 5-6 meals, I don’t know how these guys who are over 230 do 5000 cal days with clean food to be honest; like I’m just resigned to never getting back there at this point and part of it is the food stuffing just doesn’t work for me in my 40s. If I’m just going balls out on training and diet I could see 220 in my future but at 6’2 I’m just always gonna look like a ripped dude who likes to lift. All my gym buddies who physically I admire are 5’10 at most and they look incredible even at just 220. Genetics man, such a big factor.

Anyways back on track, I’ve tried the other shakes or liquified meals and they just taste like crap to me but everyone is different.
 
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I do whey protein with Costco macadamia nut milk and 2% lactose free milk. It’s 40p and 10f and 13c. I toss it in a shaker bottle and that’s 2 of my “meals” per day. Taste awesome, plenty of good fats but kinda low carb. If you’re bulking and need to add carbs I have tossed strait rice in there without it being to icky. Two shaker bottles in your little cooler bag can get you to 6 meals. The only reason I bring it up is I can feel the difference when I switched up to 5-6 meals years back, muscle fullness, fat burning, ect…. Everything just went up a notch.

Cool side effect of eating more is that tired of eating on a bulk feeling is also way lessened with 5-6 meals, I don’t know how these guys who are over 230 do 5000 cal days with clean food to be honest; like I’m just resigned to never getting back there at this point and part of it is the food stuffing just doesn’t work for me in my 40s. If I’m just going balls out on training and diet I could see 220 in my future but at 6’2 I’m just always gonna look like a ripped dude who likes to lift. All my gym buddies who physically I admire are 5’10 at most and they look incredible even at just 220. Genetics man, such a big factor.

Anyways back on track, I’ve tried the other shakes or liquified meals and they just taste like crap to me but everyone is different.

If you’ve got time to drink a shake you’ve got time to eat a sandwich. I eat two 600 calorie sandwiches every day, while I’m working, and I need my hands to work.

I also used to make 1,000 calorie shakes, but haven’t in a while.

@Dang-1 thisnwasnt supposed to be directed at you, it was for @Bigbicep

Sorry for the confusion.
 
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If you’ve got time to drink a shake you’ve got time to eat a sandwich. I eat two 600 calorie sandwiches every day, while I’m working, and I need my hands to work.

I also used to make 1,000 calorie shakes, but haven’t in a while.

@Dang-1 thisnwasnt supposed to be directed at you, it was for @Bigbicep

Sorry for the confusion.
What do you put on the sandwich? You using slices of bread or like subway sandwich type bread?
 
Doesn’t have to be this though. It could be something else.
Nice, what you think of adding deli meat for protein? Yay or nay ? I don’t Usally eat deli meat because of it being processed but could it benifit in this situation? Not like salami and pepperoni but more ham, chicken, turkey?
 
Nice, what you think of adding deli meat for protein? Yay or nay ? I don’t Usally eat deli meat because of it being processed but could it benifit in this situation? Not like salami and pepperoni but more ham, chicken, turkey?

Mehhh I wouldn’t but that’s just me. If you wanted meat I’d go to Costco or some other grocery store and buy some clean (just bare or the other one.. name escapes me..) pre cooked grilled chicken Pattie’s and just do those.
 
Mehhh I wouldn’t but that’s just me. If you wanted meat I’d go to Costco or some other grocery store and buy some clean (just bare or the other one.. name escapes me..) pre cooked grilled chicken Pattie’s and just do those.
Yea that’s a good idea thanks bro!
 
Daym 1100ng/dl how’d you do that? Enclo ? My natty t is 500
I was 23 yo at that time. If I didn't try, my T levels were around 700 back then. I don't remember the whole protocol but the main things that I remember:
1. High saturated fats (grass fed), lots of eggs (12+ a day)
2. 9+ hours of sleeping (blackout curtains, cold room, no phones in a bedroom)
3. High quality multivitamins (zinc, boron, magnesium, D3, selenium were my priorities). Also some pine pollen tea, Fadogia Agrestis, Tongat Ali etc.
4. High protein diet, calorie surplus
5. Cold showers
6. I even remember putting Lugol's iodine on my balls, not sure how it helped, haha. [learn from my mistake - don't do it if you don't want to have flaky, painful, dry balls]

Also at that time I was single and went to multiple dates with different woman. That could play a big role too.
 
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I was 23 yo at that time. If I didn't try, my T levels were around 700 back then. I don't remember the whole protocol but the main things that I remember:
1. High saturated fats (grass fed), lots of eggs (12+ a day)
2. 9+ hours of sleeping (blackout curtains, cold room, no phones in a bedroom)
3. High quality multivitamins (zinc, boron, magnesium, D3, selenium were my priorities). Also some pine pollen tea, Fadogia Agrestis, Tongat Ali etc.
4. High protein diet, calorie surplus
5. Cold showers
6. I even remember putting Lugol's iodine on my balls, not sure how it helped, haha

Also at that time I was single and went to multiple dates. That could play a big role too.
nice, one of my mates is 24 and his T level is 800 and he hardly trains or eats well.. like bro what a waste imo
 
How much weight should I be aiming to put on a week? Before this cycle if I was bulking I aimed to put on 1lb per week.
 
I’d say 1-1.5 a week is a good goal? Not an expert on that though. I just cut ~600 calories a couple days ago from my bull because I’m gaining a little more than I wanted.

Mike isretel (no idea how to spell it but RPstrength guy) has a podcast on it. I wanna say he says .5-1% of total body weight gained per week is a good starting point?
 
I’d say 1-1.5 a week is a good goal? Not an expert on that though. I just cut ~600 calories a couple days ago from my bull because I’m gaining a little more than I wanted.

Mike isretel (no idea how to spell it but RPstrength guy) has a podcast on it. I wanna say he says .5-1% of total body weight gained per week is a good starting point?
1.5lb sounds alright. I would like to gain more than 1lb cus that’s around what I gain naturally. Just not sure how much lean mass is actually being built now with the 500 test. The goal is lean bulk but not sure how much of it is actually fat amd water gain since upping my calories
 
1.5lb sounds alright. I would like to gain more than 1lb cus that’s around what I gain naturally. Just not sure how much lean mass is actually being built now with the 500 test. The goal is lean bulk but not sure how much of it is actually fat amd water gain since upping my calories

Then gain more! You’ll know in a couple weeks if you need to cut back
 
Then gain more! You’ll know in a couple weeks if you need to cut back
Damn! You gents can synthesize some serious muscle! Of that 1.5lb per week gained do you know the percentage of lean mass/water/fat in that after your cycle? I’m really curious what other people’s experiences are with this?

Here’s my most recent and this is from a keto guy who sucks up carbs like a sponge once I’m above maintenance cals and over 300 grams carbs a day:

2.83 lbs total gained per week
Water 1 lbs per week (guessing on this)
Muscle 1.08 lbs week
Fat .77lbs week (guessing on this)

Once I’m done with the blast I drop bellow maintenance and shed water like a sponge with some fat. Then I slowly chip away at the remaining fat till I get back to 10% BF. Next run I’m going to start with Hctz and see if I can gain less water as that’s the most uncomfortable part for me.
 
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