First Cycle, started today

[Jestopherson]

I use strictly 28 gauge slin pins at this point. Takes a little longer to draw, but pinning ED, it makes a big difference

Pre load these bitches. A week at a time. Takes 2 minutes

 

[Jestopherson]

Thanks! I followed advice here. May still swap out dbol for Anadrol.

I think 25 is good. I only do weekly right now. Don’t want to do daily pins.

You're doing a bolus dose of 500mg once a week? Why not a m/Thurs schedule?

 

[malfeasance]

Draw with the larger 21, and switch pins to pin with the 25.

 

[Bork]

You're doing a bolus dose of 500mg once a week? Why not a m/Thurs schedule?

Test cyp. 500mg/week. Something wrong with that?

 

[malfeasance]

First exercise routine start (taking it super slow to avoid injury):

3x5 lat raises: 50lbs each hand
3x5 shoulder/overhead presses: 150lbs
3x5 slow preacher curls: 70lbs
3x5 bench-press: 100lbs
2x squats: 45lbs (all the way down, otherwise I load 400lbs easy)
3x5 dumbbell presses: 30lbs each
3x5 lat pulldowns: 120lbs each
3x5 low rows: 120lbs.

I plan to follow a progressive overload every other day, starting at 5lbs, maybe going higher. Sure, this is all light weight, but I'd rather not injure myself and fuck up the cycle.

Your lat raises are IFBB pro weight, but your dumb bell presses are 20 pounds each lighter?

your squats are with an empty bar?

 

[malfeasance]

Test cyp. 500mg/week. Something wrong with that?

Divide it in two, twice a week - I am starting to suspect we are being played.

 

[Bork]

Your lat raises are IFBB pro weight, but your dumb bell presses are 20 pounds each lighter?

your squats are with an empty bar?

I’m very out of shape, covid lungs and nuts, so I’m starting with low weights. I can put several hundred pounds on my back, but I can’t squat all the way down with it. Dumbell presses on the other hand, will probably up to 70+, because I’m not getting any real movement there. Like I said, starting slow.

I have no idea if these raises are pro weight or not, only that I’m not having much issue with them. I did these exercises and had bad DOMS for a week. Keep in mind I’m 6’9”, and what may be heavy for some people scales differently for me.

Divide it in two, twice a week - I am starting to suspect we are being played.

No, I’m doing 500mg/week of test cyp on Monday. First cycle was a Tuesday, so technically I sped up a day. Are you telling me I should be doing 250mg twice a week? I can switch that up if it’s important.

Not playing anyone here. Covid fucked me up. I still got muscle, but not the endurance to use it.

 

[Jestopherson]

Test cyp. 500mg/week. Something wrong with that?

Yeah. You're creating a bell curve with your saturation levels running once a week. Name of the game is consistent saturation. Running 500mg once a week with a decanoate ester at 10-14 day half life wouldn't be a problem. But cyp is only Like 4-5days. By Saturday you only have 250mg left. Then you spike it again on Monday. Only to drop significantly again by the following week.

Also I'm highly suspect of the 50lb lateral raises as well. Especially when you're only overhead pressing 150lbs. And benching 100lbs?? In what world is your OH press 50lbs higher than your bench.

Squatting 45lbs?

I'm 6ft
I OH press more. Bench more. Squat WAY more. And do lateral raises with 35s. I'd love to see the momentum being used. Anyways good to see you @Exister0

 

[Bork]

Yeah. You're creating a bell curve with your saturation levels running once a week. Name of the game is consistent saturation. Running 500mg once a week with a decanoate ester at 10-14 day half life wouldn't be a problem. But cyp is only Like 4-5days. By Saturday you only have 250mg left. Then you spike it again on Monday. Only to drop significantly again by the following week.

Also I'm highly suspect of the 50lb lateral raises as well. Especially when you're only overhead pressing 150lbs. And benching 100lbs?? In what world is your OH press 50lbs higher than your bench.

Squatting 45lbs?

I'm 6ft
I OH press more. Bench more. Squat WAY more. And do lateral raises with 35s. I'd love to see the momentum being used. Anyways good to see you @Exister0

Cypionate is 7-8 days, not 4-5?

“only” is the key word here. I probably could do more of everything, but like I said I’m taking it slow. I won’t respond to any more non-constructive criticism about my exercise routine because it works for me in spite of my health issues.

 

[Bork]

Exercises are a mix, but mostly following this guide:

Starting Strength

Starting Strength is a strength training system designed to safely and efficiently improve strength, health, and athletic performance using basic barbell exercises.

startingstrength.com

Which recommends starting with an empty bar. I don’t have good technique, so I’m building it up slowly with an empty/low weight bar. If you see anything off about my exercises, I’m not likely to change it. I’ve seen this work to get started, following by nsuns 5x5, etc.

Anything about the dosing/etc, sure, I’ll listen. But right now, due to multiple injuries in certain areas of my body, part of why I’m on a cycle, I’m starting back up slowly. I realize this isn’t your super typical awesome bodybuilder program, but this is what I’ve settled on.

 

[Jestopherson]

Cypionate is 7-8 days, not 4-5?

“only” is the key word here. I probably could do more of everything, but like I said I’m taking it slow. I won’t respond to any more non-constructive criticism about my exercise routine because it works for me in spite of my health issues.

Can you show me where it says 7-8? Every source I've seen has c/e at near identical 4-5 day half lives.

I was questioning how you only have a 100lb bench press and lateral raise just as much. If you can only squat 45lbs. The bar. And bench 100lbs. You are far FAR too much of a novice to be running gear.

There's some constructive criticism. I'm 6' and I squat almost 10x as much as you. Thsts why I don't understand why a grown ass man can only lift 45lbs. If you have health conditions you may want to reconsider gear as it can exasperate things. Especially if they're as bad as you say. You should save the cycle until you're actually capable of lifting weights. Otherwise you'll be full of hormones but just wasting them

 

[Bork]

Can you show me where it says 7-8? Every source I've seen has c/e at near identical 4-5 day half lives.

I was questioning how you only have a 100lb bench press and lateral raise just as much. If you can only squat 45lbs. The bar. And bench 100lbs. You are far FAR too much of a novice to be running gear.

There's some constructive criticism. I'm 6' and I squat almost 10x as much as you. Thsts why I don't understand why a grown ass man can only lift 45lbs. If you have health conditions you may want to reconsider gear as it can exasperate things. Especially if they're as bad as you say. You should save the cycle until you're actually capable of lifting weights. Otherwise you'll be full of hormones but just wasting them

I squat 400lbs, but not all the way down and with bad form like Grizzly K. I can easily load 600lbs on a yoke.

Things were bad last year, but are much better now. I still have most of my previous muscle, but the strength has mostly faded.

You’re probably right about it, but I’m sticking to the cycle anyway. We’ll see what gains I get.

7-8 days: Testosterone cypionate - Wikipedia

 

[Jestopherson]

Exercises are a mix, but mostly following this guide:

Starting Strength

Starting Strength is a strength training system designed to safely and efficiently improve strength, health, and athletic performance using basic barbell exercises.

startingstrength.com

Which recommends starting with an empty bar. I don’t have good technique, so I’m building it up slowly with an empty/low weight bar. If you see anything off about my exercises, I’m not likely to change it. I’ve seen this work to get started, following by nsuns 5x5, etc.

Anything about the dosing/etc, sure, I’ll listen. But right now, due to multiple injuries in certain areas of my body, part of why I’m on a cycle, I’m starting back up slowly. I realize this isn’t your super typical awesome bodybuilder program, but this is what I’ve settled on.

My suggestion is save the cycle until your body is in a better state to train a near maximal effort and in a progressive manner. You'll be shutting yourself down for nothing.

If you have injuries along with rehab/physio/massage therapy, look into gh and bpc157. I healed chronic tendinitis that I had for years after a few short months of both of those

 

[Jestopherson]

I squat 400lbs, but not all the way down and with bad form like Grizzly K. I can easily load 600lbs on a yoke.

Things were bad last year, but are much better now. I still have most of my previous muscle, but the strength has mostly faded.

You’re probably right about it, but I’m sticking to the cycle anyway. We’ll see what gains I get.

7-8 days: Testosterone cypionate - Wikipedia

Then no you can't. That's like me saying I can deadlift 700lbs but the bar never leaves the ground.

Are your injuries ego lifting related? I would never put a weight on that I couldn't do with at least half decent form and safely

 

[Bork]

My suggestion is save the cycle until your body is in a better state to train a near maximal effort and in a progressive manner. You'll be shutting yourself down for nothing.

If you have injuries along with rehab, look into gh and bpc157. I healed chronic tendinitis that I had for years after a few short months of both of those

I’m not saying you’re wrong, I actually agree with you. But I think I have a different goal than most. I don’t need to be huge, I’m already huge. I just need to be healthy and in shape. Don’t plan on any other cycles after this.

 

[Jestopherson]

I’m not saying you’re wrong, I actually agree with you. But I think I have a different goal than most. I don’t need to be huge, I’m already huge. I just need to be healthy and in shape. Don’t plan on any other cycles after this.

Then use cardarine? It'll help you rebuild your endurance.

But you're deadset on this so best of luck. Maybe more guys chiming In will help.

 

[Bork]

Then no you can't. That's like me saying I can deadlift 700lbs but the bar never leaves the ground.

Are your injuries ego lifting related? I would never put a weight on that I couldn't do with at least half decent form and safely

Then noI can’t squat it all the way down, but I can carry a huge yoke. This is why I need proper technique with… you guessed it, a bar only! And why I’m developing that slowly with mirrors, videos and posting online to show my progress.

Can I lift the bar with 400lbs on it? Yeah, easily. Can I squat down? Yes. All the way? Nope. Is my form good? Noope. So I’m correcting that, starting from nothing. I’ll still have my 900lb limit yoke if I need to carry heavy loads.

My injuries are unrelated to lifting. But I could seriously injure myself if I don’t have proper form on top of what else I’m doing.. see where I’m coming from?

 

[Bork]

Then use cardarine? It'll help you rebuild your endurance.

But you're deadset on this so best of luck. Maybe more guys chiming In will help.

Hey dude, I’m not taking SARMS.

There’s not enough research for it. Anabolic steroids, and I’m taking a light course, are very well researched. I am fully aware of what I’m taking, what the risks and side effects are, have my blood results for before, after and during taken care of plus a full PCT an an actual TRT prescription if I need to cruise since my hormone levels are extremely unstable outside of TRT.

But I seriously appreciate your input regardless.

 

[Jestopherson]

Hey dude, I’m not taking SARMS.

There’s not enough research for it. Anabolic steroids, and I’m taking a light course, are very well researched. I am fully aware of what I’m taking, what the risks and side effects are, have my blood results for before, after and during taken care of plus a full PCT an an actual TRT prescription if I need to cruise since my hormone levels are extremely unstable outside of TRT.

But I seriously appreciate your input regardless.

I didn't suggest a sarm

How do you plan to get a script for trt with a 1200ng/dl test level?

 

[Bork]

I didn't suggest a sarm

How do you plan to get a script for trt with a 1200ng/dl test level?

Figured Cardarine was a SARM.

I’ve explained this several times on the forum, but this thread is for my cycle log, so let’s take it elsewhere?