First Cycle - Test C and Anavar

[Mattfree]

Hey guys, new on here but have been reading up on this forum for at least a year now. I have decided to do a cycle finally, I've hit a hard plateau finally and I think it's about time. As far as the cycle goes, I'm for sure wanting to start with some test cyp. I'm wanting to incorporate anavar as well as I have a good hookup for both.
The cycle I'm thinking of is as follows:

Week 1-10 Test c 200mg/week
Week 7-12 anavar 50mg/day split 25mg 8am and 25 pre workout around 5pm
Week 1-12 arimidex 1mg EOD if needed

Pct nolvadex 40/40/20/20 at week 12, run anavar to start of pct

Stats: 25 years old, 5'11", 195, ~12%bf

I know a lot of guys would say go at 400mg of cyp a week, is that necessary? Or could I get by at 200mg? I would love any advice and comments on any of it that any of you have! Thanks everyone.

 

[Skull]

Hey guys, new on here but have been reading up on this forum for at least a year now. I have decided to do a cycle finally, I've hit a hard plateau finally and I think it's about time. As far as the cycle goes, I'm for sure wanting to start with some test cyp. I'm wanting to incorporate anavar as well as I have a good hookup for both.
The cycle I'm thinking of is as follows:

Week 1-10 Test c 200mg/week
Week 7-12 anavar 50mg/day split 25mg 8am and 25 pre workout around 5pm
Week 1-12 arimidex 1mg EOD if needed

Pct nolvadex 40/40/20/20 at week 12, run anavar to start of pct

Stats: 25 years old, 5'11", 195, ~12%bf

I know a lot of guys would say go at 400mg of cyp a week, is that necessary? Or could I get by at 200mg? I would love any advice and comments on any of it that any of you have! Thanks everyone.

If it were me an knowing that I was going to be shutting myself down in the first place anyways while wanting to gain mass, I would be going with 400-500MgWkTest. Also I would drop the thought of anavar an run it at another time on down the road. I'd try making the best possible gains an most out of my first cycle with as little compounds as i could get away with possible. Gradually adding on compounds an increasing dosages to cycles only when I start to plateau. Thats jus me though bro. Good luck on your cycle man with either which way ya go abouts it......

 

[staynattybruh]

Standard dosing for test weekly is from 500-600mg. Idk why you chose to go so low. You should drop the var brother. One compound at a time.

 

[viking23]

If you're going to risk shutting yourself down to make some gains you better make it worth it! What you're doing is like spending 100 dollars to win 110 dollars! Up your test dose to 500-600 mg a week and you should be fine.

I would only run Adex at 0.5 mg eod (maybe only 0.25 eod) to start and use blood work or side effects to decide if I needed to bump it up.

I would start pct 3 weeks after last pin. Using var exactly as you have planned. Many guys switch to a short ester at the end of the cycle so they won't have to wait as long for levels to drop and pct to start. Using an oral will work the same way though.

 

[viking23]

And you should probably get some clomid and some extra Nolva to have on hand just in case you need it for pct. The extra Nolva is also good in case gyno becomes an issue on cycle. Might as well make sure you have some extra Adex too. May sound like overkill but it's "better to have and not need, then need and not have!"

 

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

1. Get a pre cycle blood test for:
Test, estrogen, lh, fsh, lipids.
2. Like said before go about 500mg/week
3. Go easy on the adex. Start with 0.25 2-3x week and do bloodwork to see where you are.
4. First Cycle test only. Stack later
5. No need to go 40 on nolva stay with 20 for 4-6 weeks
Clomid at 100/50/25-50/12.5-25/(12.5) per week.





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[Mattfree]

Thanks everyone for your input! I think starting with the test only cycle would be a good idea then, and save the var for another time. As far as dosing and being shut down, would bouncing back pct wise be harder at a dose of like 500mg/week versus just the 200mg? Or would it be just as easy at those higher doses?

 

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

Same thing. Shut down is shut down. The difference in test shutdown between 200 and 1g is very small.


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[Harmswhey]

I would run 12 weeks with cyp imo

 

[kiwigear]

Everyone else has said wat to do so I'll leave it at that lol

 

[Mattfree]

So just from my thinking and truly I could be completely wrong, but wouldn't a higher dose be harder to recover from when in pct? I don't know biologically if being at those higher doses would be harder on the body to recover or just take longer? I'm more than likely going to go for 500mg a week, but just curious at this point and why not ask when I have the resources!

 

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

As far as I know and have read the body shuts down when introduced to supra physical dosis of testosteron (and we are talking testosterone only!). There have been studies on this and I think dr. Jim wrote that there is actually a difference in shutdown depending on the dosis but the difference is so small it's not worth mentioning. The only thing is that you might have to wait for pct longer bc of the half life time. Bc the body does not start to recover when the testosterone is still in the supra physical numbers.


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[viking23]

Your body is dose dependent when it comes to shutting down up to a point and after a certain dose its all the same I believe. Where that threshold lies, I honestly am unsure. However, I believe the real concern is the amount of Time your body stays shut down.

Running a dose of 200 a week is not worth the risk I promise you! The risk doesn't increase much when you talk about 200mg and a 600ng dose. Start pushing 1 gram a week and the risk may be a little larger but I still believe the concern is how long you stayed shut down throughout the year. The faster you get on and off the easier the recovery!

There is that chance you're the guy that only cycles once and never recovers but this is the game we chose too play.