Fox 1st Cycle

foxwales

New Member
Hey Meso crew,

I've been a long time reader of Meso and today I took the plunge and created an account so I can document my very first cycle and share the good and bad along the way. But first, a bit about me.

Background
I'm in my 30's and I've been lifting weights for 4 years. The 1st year I probably spent finding my feet, trying different programs, frequencies and techniques; in year 2, I started to nail being consistent, working out 4 times a week, sticking with a program for a minimum of 6 months before changing it up or out. By year 3 and 4 I have got into a rhythm of going to the gym 4+ days a week, working body parts 2 times per week and I enjoy it; it's become as much as part of my lifestyle as brushing my teeth every morning and night.

Why do I want to cycle?
I have been working out for 4 years and I can honestly put my hand on heart and say for these last two years I have busted my balls in the gym. I eat well, work out consistently, add weight progressively and have not missed a day in the gym for over 2 years; but when I look around and compare my size and achievements against others, I get disappointed with myself. Disappointed that I haven't pushed myself harder, or I haven't eaten enough or added enough weight. Where are my bulging gains?

The truth of the reality is, is that the physique I wish to attain is likely to only ever be achievable through the use of anabolics, unless I was given some god like genetics, which I wasn't. SO that has brought me to this point.

Finding a Source
I have been reading about steroids for well over 2 years and have been researching steroids use, sources, cycles, techniques, diet and PCT for these past two years, which Is how I came about this very community and have learned alot from. This isn't something I have decided to go into lightly as I wanted to go into this with eyes wide open, knowing what risks I would be subjecting myself to.

After reading for 2 years and deciding I was going to try 1 cycle, I then set about looking for a reliable source who wouldn't sell me bunk gear or run off with my money. From reading Meso for months, the frequency at which this happens really discouraged me because even though Meso scrutinizes sources, there still is no guarantee that your source is legit in any sense; so eventhough I felt I was better informed, I was none the wiser in terms of who the best source was.

Stepping out into the abyss of sources, I decided to go with Noble labs. My rationale for doing so was that they were a UK source, the majority of online reviews I could find were positive and searching google for past reviews/info seemed to support the positive reviews. My paranoia inherited from Meso was still telling me that these reviews could all be paid for or affiliated in some way, so the gear could still have been bunk or I could be lining myself up to be ripped off. But, knowing the risk, I jumped in and placed an order with Gymchemist.co.

I chose Gymchemist because they make and distribute Noble, and communication from them with other users appeared to be consistent and timely, which gave me a little confidence in this being my first source. When it came to placing the order, that was pretty straight forward and they communicated with me at each stage so that gave me a little more confidence, but I still had the niggling in my mind that I was going to get ripped off, but low and behold my gear arrived special delivery a few days after ordering. After checking the box contents, seeing all I had ordered was there, I was quite content with the process so far. I still don't know if what I have ordered is bunk or not, but I suppose this log will determine that over the next few weeks.

So all in all the process of ordering and receiving my goods was pretty straight forward, i'd almost liken it to ordering off of Amazon or Play. I also have to add that I was impressed by how professional the packaging was, as it looked like anything you could buy from a Pharmacy, so that added to my confidence a bit in that I had chosen a decent source.

Preparation Preparation Preparation
With my gear arrived, I needed to sort out how I was going to get this stuff into my body. I spoke with a close friend who is a nurse to talk to her about what I was planning to do, and she suggested I go and visit my local needle exchange. First thought was, that place is for junkies, but after manning up, I went in and asked to speak with someone about taking anabolics. After a decent chat about my cycle, the guy talked me through how to use a syringe, how to extract from a vial and how to inject. After that, he gave me a couple of sharps bins for the used needles, green needles to draw from the vial, blue needles to inject, alcohol swabs and syringes, so I had everything I needed to start my 1st cycle. On reflection, going to the needle exchange wasn't that bad at all, it was all anonymous and I got everything for free, so that has to be a bonus!

Just to mention, they gave me a brilliant source which is loaded with information on the various anabolics and it also has demonstration videos on injection techniques: http://www.siedsinfo.co.uk/

So after sorting out that, the next thing was to get my diet in order to make sure I was going to be eating enough protein. I went out and bought a measuring jug so I can measure ml's and also some digital scales so I can weigh out the right portions. And loaded my fridge, freezer and cupboards, with Eggs, Porridge, Rice, Chicken, Turkey, Vegetables and these staples will make up the majority of my diet over the course of my 1st cycle.

Quick Info
Length of cycle: 10 weeks
Average Protein Per Day: 300g
Average Carbohydrates Per Day: 250g
Average Fat Per Day: 60g
Total Average Calories per day: 3200

Gear
Noble - Testosterone Enanthate - 600mg Per week (300mg Monday / 300mg Thursday)
Noble - Dianabol - 30mg Per day (10mg Morning, 10mg Afternoon, 10mg Evening)
Arimidex - 0.5mg Every other day

PCT
Tamoxifen - 40mg/40mg/20mg/20mg


Day 1
Today is my very first day and I was both excited and apprehensive about starting this cycle. Excited because I want to see what I can achieve over the next 10 weeks, but apprehensive because I don't know how my body is going to respond and also because I have no idea what really is this stuff I am putting in my body.

I took my first 10mg of Dianabol this morning with my bowl of porridge and I also took 0.5mg of Arimidex. Since taking these I haven't felt sick or anything.

I then was preparing myself for my first ever self injection. I warmed the vial in my pocket and hands and you could see the oil become less viscous after some warmth, I then pulled the cap off the vial and used an alcohol swab to clean to the top of the vial, put a green needle on the syringe and drew 1 ml of air into the syringe, stuck the syringe into the vial and pushed the air into the vial, then drawing up 1 ml of oil. Put the used green needle into the sharps bin and then put the blue needle on ready to inject; I decided on injecting into my lateral thigh muscle so cleaned the area with an alcohol swab.

Pushing the needle in, I didn't really feel any pain which was surprising. I tried to pull the plunger back a little to see if any blood would draw into the syringe but nope, nothing, so I was good to go. I started to push the oil in with a guide of doing it slowly over 10 seconds, which was recommended by the needle exchange. As I was pushing the oil in, I noticed some white creamy liquid by the head of the needle, but wasn't concerned as I was still feeling no pain and finished off pushing the oil in.

As soon as the oil was in, I immediately felt sick, my stomach was churning and I could feel the colour drain from me. I've never had a problem with needles in the past, but then again it has always been someone else injecting me, not me injecting myself. I lay down on the floor and just breathed slowly for a few minutes as I didn't want to be sick as that meant losing my porridge, my arimidex and my dianabol.

After a few minutes of lying down, I felt fine. The injection site has a little blood and feels warm in that area, I also have a little ache there, i'm assuming tomorrow the pain there will either be worse or better, but I am guessing worse.

Food for today:


Breakfast - Porridge Oats mixed with Protein Powder
Mid Morning - Protein Shake + milk + Large Hard Boiled Egg
Afternoon - Protein Shake + milk + Large Hard Boiled Egg
Dinner - Turkey + rice + vegetables
Evening - Protein Shake + milk + Large Hard Boiled Egg

Cheers, Fox
 
Day 2

Woke up this morning and only a little dull ache in my injection site, guess that means that PIP is pretty good.

Went to the gym last night and worked chest, legs and arms. I don't know whether it was a placebo effect, but I certainly felt more explosive whilst lifting and didn't feel as fatigued as I usually would.

As the half-life on Dbol is between 4-6 hours it could be that it's had an immediate effect, if so I really enjoyed the feeling it gave me, but I'm remaining grounded and putting it down to placebo.

No sides of any sort from the Dbol, Test E or arimidex. My appetite was raging last night, even after dinner, so I ate a protein bar which helped. Slept really well too.

All in all, so far so good in that I have no sides, just hoping this gear turns out to be legit and not bunk.

Fox
 
Hi Fox,

Great job putting together your cycle and log.

A couple questions; have you researched the benefits of hCG on cycle? And particular reason for excluding clomid from your recovery plan?

Also, your diet is horrible. Too many shakes, not enough food. Your macros should come from whole foods, not a bunch of shakes. If you like, post up your entire diet (including macros) and we'll help you build one tailored to you and that reflects your goals.
 
Hi Fox,

Great job putting together your cycle and log.

A couple questions; have you researched the benefits of hCG on cycle? And particular reason for excluding clomid from your recovery plan?

Also, your diet is horrible. Too many shakes, not enough food. Your macros should come from whole foods, not a bunch of shakes. If you like, post up your entire diet (including macros) and we'll help you build one tailored to you and that reflects your goals.

Cheers!

I opted for just Dbol and Test as this is my very first cycle and I wanted to see how my body responds. I didn't want to throw too many ingredients into my first go and also I didn't want to throw lots of money at gear without first establishing a reliable source for myself if that makes sense.

Main reason for just using Tamoxifen is because my first cycle is relatively short and sides seem to be more adverse in clomid. There also seems to be two camps, those for dual PCT eg Nolvadex and Clomid and those for single PCT. So I jumped in the single PCT pot to start with. I'm also running arimidex 0.5mg EOD whilst I'm on Dbol and will continue this post Dbol if I pick up any sides.

Open to hear whether it would be beneficial for me to get some clomid for PCT also.

About my diet, I hold my hands up. It's shit in respect of shakes instead of whole foods, but I need something that fits into my lifestyle, about to become a dad too so my free time is going to get even more squeezed; I try to prep as much as I can but some days I just feel burnt out.

Cheers
 
Am really enjoying reading your log, well written. Have you found out what the white creamy foam was that came out of your needle? Ive experienced the nauseau as well one time, I tought I injected into a vein but it was all in my head.
Don't worry after a while it'll be like brushing your teeth like you said, you'll actually look forward to it believe it or not.

I recommend you to increase your cycle to 12 weeks, altough I'm pretty sure you're gonna change your mind soon. ;)
Enjoy brother.
 
Am really enjoying reading your log, well written. Have you found out what the white creamy foam was that came out of your needle? Ive experienced the nauseau as well one time, I tought I injected into a vein but it was all in my head.
Don't worry after a while it'll be like brushing your teeth like you said, you'll actually look forward to it believe it or not.

I recommend you to increase your cycle to 12 weeks, altough I'm pretty sure you're gonna change your mind soon. ;)
Enjoy brother.

Cheers Daledd,

I asked my nurse friend and she said that white stuff is just likely to be fat.

I think I only have enough gear to see me through 10 weeks, but if I start seeing gains, that could well change.

Fox
 
Day 2.5

It's 03:15am and I'm typing this, went to sleep around 11pm and am now awake after some restless sleep. Bit shit having shit sleep tonight as a day packed full of meetings tomorrow, usually sleep well so I'm guessing it could be a side from Dbol or arimidex.

Earlier this afternoon my mood crashed, it was quite noticeable as I just felt really fed up with everything which is unlike me. As this isn't representative of Test increases I'm ruling out the Dbol and putting this down to Arimidex maybe crashing my estrogen. I'm going to increase the days inbetween doses to see how that works.

Ploughing through my gym routine, probably flying on the placebo effect at the moment more than anything else.

Still a dull ache in injection site, but nothing painful.

Getting loads of gas, which goes hand in hand with all the extra protein I'm eating, even my dogs eyes water.

Also I've noticed I feel a bit hornier, not really more frequent boners, but my thoughts are a bit slutty, in that I'm thinking about sweaty hard sex. I usually jerk off once or twice a day minimum and usually only have those kinda thoughts when I'm horny, so not sure if that's a sign of test increasing or whether I'm just not getting enough sex.

Did some reading earlier and most seem to notice Dbol working between end of week 1 and week 3, so will see if any further noticeable changes over the next few days.

Time to try and get back to sleep.

Fox
 
Ok seriously? Your diet looks like a cutting diet...for a girl! If this is your CYCLE DIET when most bb'rs require more food, what on earth do you eat when you're NOT cycling?? Im completely baffled.

Brother, you really need to re evaluate your priorities here. If you cant afford to feed yourself properly on cycle (or off cycle), you have no business doing steroids. I would halt this cycle asap and restart when youre better prepared financially or otherwise.
 
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Breakfast - Porridge Oats mixed with Protein Powder
Mid Morning - Protein Shake + milk + Large Hard Boiled Egg
Afternoon - Protein Shake + milk + Large Hard Boiled Egg
Dinner - Turkey + rice + vegetables
Evening - Protein Shake + milk + Large Hard Boiled Egg

Cheers, Fox

Holy shit.. I didn't read this before because it was a tad long... You're eating 1 meal a day, that is why you have no gains, no mystery here man.. Stop drinking all those shakes and eating one "large" hard boiled egg at a time!!

Get 5000 calories a day from FOOD and you will grow..
 
You should eat 3 times what you're already eating and reduce the amount of shakes to 1.

Ive also experienced the depression it happened after I started arimidex at 0.5 mg eod. Going to stop and only use it when I notice sides, I suggest you do that as well.
 
Day 3 + 4

I've taken onboard comments so far and have added the following into my diet to replace out my shakes. Tuna, mackarel, meat patties. So where I would have had a shake I'll now have something like 2 tins of tuna and mixed veg with my large hard boiled egg ;)

On Day 3 my mood certainly was low and I wasn't myself so I've stopped the arimidex at 0.5mg every other day and will take arimidex only if I see any estro sides. Surprised that such a small dose had such an effect on my mood.

My first injection site felt really tight yesterday, not painful, bit like DOMS. Today though, my leg feels like normal.

2nd injection today so injected into my left lateral thigh today, no problems what so ever, no sick feeling, no pain, nothing.

Can't say I've noticed any huge difference in my sense of well being or performance in the gym, I am feeling hot now and again, not sure if these are hot flashes which I'm going to look into as might me a sign of increased estro.

With all this food, I have terrible gas and it smells rank, but it's a small price.
 
Day 3 + 4

I've taken onboard comments so far and have added the following into my diet to replace out my shakes. Tuna, mackarel, meat patties. So where I would have had a shake I'll now have something like 2 tins of tuna and mixed veg with my large hard boiled egg ;)

On Day 3 my mood certainly was low and I wasn't myself so I've stopped the arimidex at 0.5mg every other day and will take arimidex only if I see any estro sides. Surprised that such a small dose had such an effect on my mood.

My first injection site felt really tight yesterday, not painful, bit like DOMS. Today though, my leg feels like normal.

2nd injection today so injected into my left lateral thigh today, no problems what so ever, no sick feeling, no pain, nothing.

Can't say I've noticed any huge difference in my sense of well being or performance in the gym, I am feeling hot now and again, not sure if these are hot flashes which I'm going to look into as might me a sign of increased estro.

With all this food, I have terrible gas and it smells rank, but it's a small price.

Gas should die down as your body gets used to it.. Glad you're listening!! Good luck.
 
It's not hot flashes I'm having, as I don't get the flushed feeling, it's more like a hotness like I've just come out of hot sun. When I was leg pressing earlier my shoulders were burning like they were on fire. Have no idea why or how as I've never had that sensation leg pressing before.

Could an increase in hormones be raising my core temp?
 
I'm going to be honest here, I'm not liking this first cycle because of the following concerns:

1) diet is iffy
2) should be test only cycle for 12 weeks no dbol
3) PCT is questionable because of no clomid
4) no hCG while on cycle
 
Thanks for that but I live in the UK. Can't get bloods done unless through a doctor.

Private tests cost a fortune here. More than what I have paid for my cycle.
 
I'm going to be honest here, I'm not liking this first cycle because of the following concerns:

1) diet is iffy
2) should be test only cycle for 12 weeks no dbol
3) PCT is questionable because of no clomid
4) no hCG while on cycle

Yeah, I'm not going to be able to please everyone. This 1st cycle is a learning curve for me and I'm taking onboard advice.
 
Height: 6'0ft
Weight: 260lbs
Waist: 36 inches
Thigh: 30 inches
Arms: 17 inches
Chest: 46 inches
Neck: 18 inches
 
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