Front Load Discussion Sustanon + EQ

[andy322]

Greetings from Mexico!
My cycle length is 8 weeks
Drugs used:
-Sustanon 250 (sostenon redijects): 1,000 mg/week for 6 weeks (plus 3 extra shots day 1)
-Test Prop: 100mg/day for last 12 days
-HGH (eli lily somatropina) 4 iu/day for 16 weeks (goes into PCT for 448 iu total for cycle. pinning 2iu twice a day)
-Equipoise (Salud Animal Dianabol): 400 mg/week for first 5 weeks (200 injected biweekly)
(injections are 36,8/8,8/8,8/8,8/8,8 = 108 ml total for cycle)
-Arimidex 0.5 mg EOD + 1.5 mg front load?
-Nolva PCT standard protocol

-Day 1 = 5/7 x 1,000 + 250 ~ 4 sostenon rediject shots (1,000 mg)
-Equipoise (Salud Animal Dianabol)= 1.8 x 400+ 200 ~ 900 mg
-Arimidex 1.5 mg on day 1

My question is: is it safe to inject 4 redijects + 36 ml (25mg/1ml) Equipoise + 4iu HGH on day 1? (plus 1.5 mg arimidex). it just seems like a lot at 1 time. I do want to front load properly. tyvm

 

[Erin]

Greetings from Mexico!
My cycle length is 8 weeks
Drugs used:
-Sustanon 250 (sostenon redijects): 1,000 mg/week for 6 weeks (plus 3 extra shots day 1)
-Test Prop: 100mg/day for last 12 days
-HGH (eli lily somatropina) 4 iu/day for 16 weeks (goes into PCT for 448 iu total for cycle. pinning 2iu twice a day)
-Equipoise (Salud Animal Dianabol): 400 mg/week for first 5 weeks (200 injected biweekly)
(injections are 36,8/8,8/8,8/8,8/8,8 = 108 ml total for cycle)
-Arimidex 0.5 mg EOD + 1.5 mg front load?
-Nolva PCT standard protocol

-Day 1 = 5/7 x 1,000 + 250 ~ 4 sostenon rediject shots (1,000 mg)
-Equipoise (Salud Animal Dianabol)= 1.8 x 400+ 200 ~ 900 mg
-Arimidex 1.5 mg on day 1

My question is: is it safe to inject 4 redijects + 36 ml (25mg/1ml) Equipoise + 4iu HGH on day 1? (plus 1.5 mg arimidex). it just seems like a lot at 1 time. I do want to front load properly. tyvm

Is 1900mg AAS in 40ml at one time safe? Seriously? Of course not.

As posted in other threads, myself and many others have not found compelling advantages to frontloading.

 

[andy322]

Thanks for the reply Erin. I want to mix EQ + Sus250 to reduce PIP.
I got the idea of front loading from Bill Roberts. He argues:

1. It makes blood levels more stable during the cycle period
2. Being in a transitional state is a waste of time and money. Either be effectively anabolic or get to recovery as quickly as possible.

My sources
1. The Perfect 8-Week Testosterone-Based Steroid Cycle
2. How to Use Sustanon 250
3. How Does Frontloading Improve a Steroid Cycle?

I will read your earlier posts. tyvm <3

 

[Erin]

Thanks for the reply Erin. I want to mix EQ + Sus250 to reduce PIP.
I got the idea of front loading from Bill Roberts. He argues:

1. It makes blood levels more stable during the cycle period
2. Being in a transitional state is a waste of time and money. Either be effectively anabolic or get to recovery as quickly as possible.

My sources
1. The Perfect 8-Week Testosterone-Based Steroid Cycle
2. How to Use Sustanon 250
3. How Does Frontloading Improve a Steroid Cycle?

I will read your earlier posts. tyvm <3

Both are reasonable points:
1) Undoubtedly. However, is it actually advantageous to increase androgen from basal to supra-physiological in a single injection? This can be dangerous and is specifically avoided in a clinical setting, where doses are titrated up (as needed or to a final target dose).
2) Perhaps in theory. But again, myself and others have noted that instant hypertrophy does not occur during that frontloaded week. I would argue that it's a waste of money to frontload (that is, tripling doses do not triple gains), and rather that it is more effective to make gains for an additional two weeks with the same total amount of AAS.

Again, it's not a question of whether or not frontloading gets blood levels higher, faster. It absolutely does. As always, it's a question of cost:benefit, or risk:reward. I don't find frontloading to be advantageous in that analysis.

 

[JohnnyD]

40ml injection? Where do you plan on injecting that? Did you honestly think that was a good idea? Either ditch the EQ or get a higher dosed product.

 

[andy322]

40ml injection? Where do you plan on injecting that? Did you honestly think that was a good idea? Either ditch the EQ or get a higher dosed product.

My penis...I usually jerk off to L'oreal commercials and shoot it right in the vein. well, I was gunna do both glutes and both quads w/ 1 rediject + EQ each. I've decided against te front load. thxs guys

 

[Test_Subject]

Frontloading will absolutely get your blood concentration up faster, but I've tried it and found it to have no noticeable effect in the end game. You're better off extending your cycle for the length of the compound that you'd use frontloading.

Alternately, start with an oral or a short ester.

 

[Big_paul]

8 weeks is not long enough. Using eq you need 16 weeks minimum. The test decanote in sust is also a problem because of the long half life.

 

[Test_Subject]

8 weeks is not long enough. Using eq you need 16 weeks minimum. The test decanote in sust is also a problem because of the long half life.

I'm not the hugest fan of sustanon. To use it to its fullest, you need to pin it EOD because of the propionate, which defeats the whole point of having long esters in the mix.

Why not just run propionate? It has more active hormone per volume anyhow.

 

[andy322]

I'm running sust for 6 weeks, then switching to propionate because of trust. I trust the sust is 99% legit. I don't trust the vet grade prop. Otherwise, I would ditch the sust. Ty guys <3