Thanks bro. The older I get the less I care if I embarrass myself a bit.
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Thanks bro. The older I get the less I care if I embarrass myself a bit.
Yeah, well my choice is a 1959 Les Paul Standard sunburst with original PAF humbuckers and strung with Ernie Ball Super Slinky 10's. Plugged into a 1965 Fender blackface Super Reverb with 4 vintage blue frame Jensons and running NOS Mullard 12AX7A preamp tubes and NOS RCA blackplate 6L6GC's and a Mullard GZ34 rectifier, of course.
Although, a 1968 Marshall Super Lead Model 1959 with NOS Telefunken ECC83 preamp tubes and NOS Mullard EL34 in the output, driving a 4x12 cabinet with vintage Celestion Greenbacks is nice too. It's really a tough decision. I guess I'll take both.
I'm just messing with you Elliot.
What aspect of my knowledge is so limited it's amazing Stretch? LOL!
Stretch
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I dont have the time.
Ur a rep.
WHAT?!?!?! What am I hearing, Stretch?! Are you actually accusing someone of being a rep without proof? Where's the evidence? Where's the double-blind placebo-controlled study? Where's the statistical analysis?
I can't believe what I'm hearing. It must be someone impersonating Stretch.
This is very troubling. Very troubling, indeed
Oh I got it now Stretch, the UGL use multiple "middlemen" as a means of reducing costs for you the customer! You know so little about the production and business aspect of pharmaceuticals GH in particular it's amazing.
Bullshit Stretch it's their means of justifying why they don't know a damn thing about the GH products THEY SELL. Is that the line of garbage "your guy" told you when asked who and where the Hyges were produced?
You think I've not heard this previously from others touting a generic GH product?
Please Stretch or do u just want to argue to prove "a point" because your "so competitive"?
Your major problem in dealing with these "guys" and UGLs is your far to trusting.
Have you ever been burned Stretch? Well apparently it wasn't painful enough for you to remain so trusting.
Most will screw you, me or anyone else for a buck or two. Because very few have an ethical or professional compass, it's ALL about the money and most will do damn near anything to acquire it, including lying, cheating, stealing, counterfeiting etc.
Oh one last question have u ever one a month or two of KNOWN pharm grade HGH?
Jim
Bullshit Stretch it's their means of justifying why they don't know a damn thing about the GH products THEY SELL. Is that the line of garbage "your guy" told you when asked who and where the Hyges were produced?
You think I've not heard this previously from others touting a generic GH product?
Please Stretch or do u just want to argue to prove "a point" because your "so competitive"?
Your major problem in dealing with these "guys" and UGLs is your far to trusting.
Have you ever been burned Stretch? Well apparently it wasn't painful enough for you to remain so trusting.
Most will screw you, me or anyone else for a buck or two. Because very few have an ethical or professional compass, it's ALL about the money and most will do damn near anything to acquire it, including lying, cheating, stealing, counterfeiting etc.
Oh one last question have u ever one a month or two of KNOWN pharm grade HGH?
Jim
ElliotV
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Yeah, well my choice is a 1959 Les Paul Standard sunburst with original PAF humbuckers and strung with Ernie Ball Super Slinky 10's. Plugged into a 1965 Fender blackface Super Reverb with 4 vintage blue frame Jensons and running NOS Mullard 12AX7A preamp tubes and NOS RCA blackplate 6L6GC's and a Mullard GZ34 rectifier, of course.
Although, a 1968 Marshall Super Lead Model 1959 with NOS Telefunken ECC83 preamp tubes and NOS Mullard EL34 in the output, driving a 4x12 cabinet with vintage Celestion Greenbacks is nice too. It's really a tough decision. I guess I'll take both.
I'm just messing with you Elliot.
Haha, I do believe you have a far better choice of instrument than mine! Unfortunately I am not that talented so I must stick with what I know.
Btw, where is Dan?
ElliotV
New Member
Not trying to be rude, just pointing out facts...
You said that gh has never been available as a kit because you have been prescribing it for 10 years. Well, as constructive criticism I recommend updating your MicroMedix and maybe adding in a few more C.E. hours
Please refer to items NDC 0002-7335-16 and 0002-8147-01
Just saying that it might be of value to your patients. They do seem much easier and more efficient.
Elliot <3
Lol, who do I rep for? You have my permission (not that it's required) to inquire at ANY company.
What I'm a rep because I'm short on funds and/or need the notoriety? Have u gone mad?
I'm reping for Meso (yet there is absolutely no direct or indirect business relationship) and those on it period, simply because I despise cheats, scammers and liars.
Moreover I was far to trusting in my "early years". I didn't know how to make connections exclusive of the gym which I frequented on a regular basis but nonetheless was screwed several times (for between 3-5K, the majority on GH bunk) by pieces of shit who would say one thing yet do another.
So yea there's a personal vendetta I have with these dirt balls, and I'll do my best to expose them because now I'm better informed considerably more in knowledgeable, and have nurtured some very trusting relationships over the years.
Their professions range from a simple colleague, physicians, chemists, and a few sponsored professional BB. The primary impetus for myself is PEDs with a special interest of GH since growth hormone vendors screwed me more than any other group collectively.
But really is there a better ace to expose them but on an OPEN AAS forum, where at least 50% of their business is generated ?
Additionally NO OTHER FORUM allows this form or degree of criticism, and you should know that Stretch
Been there done that!
What I'm a rep because I'm short on funds or notoriety? Have you gone mad, lol?
What I'm a rep because I'm short on funds and/or need the notoriety? Have u gone mad?
I'm reping for Meso (yet there is absolutely no direct or indirect business relationship) and those on it period, simply because I despise cheats, scammers and liars.
Moreover I was far to trusting in my "early years". I didn't know how to make connections exclusive of the gym which I frequented on a regular basis but nonetheless was screwed several times (for between 3-5K, the majority on GH bunk) by pieces of shit who would say one thing yet do another.
So yea there's a personal vendetta I have with these dirt balls, and I'll do my best to expose them because now I'm better informed considerably more in knowledgeable, and have nurtured some very trusting relationships over the years.
Their professions range from a simple colleague, physicians, chemists, and a few sponsored professional BB. The primary impetus for myself is PEDs with a special interest of GH since growth hormone vendors screwed me more than any other group collectively.
But really is there a better ace to expose them but on an OPEN AAS forum, where at least 50% of their business is generated ?
Additionally NO OTHER FORUM allows this form or degree of criticism, and you should know that Stretch
Been there done that!
What I'm a rep because I'm short on funds or notoriety? Have you gone mad, lol?
Elliot I hope you stick around Meso gal, because we need to keep the bright ones here!
Regardless, what your referring to (I believe) are often referred to as "unit dosing" system of GH administration and packaging.
That mechanism or "unit production" is used frequently in burn centers and occasionally in some endo's or pediatric doctors or physical therapy rehab offices.
Best
Jim
Regardless, what your referring to (I believe) are often referred to as "unit dosing" system of GH administration and packaging.
That mechanism or "unit production" is used frequently in burn centers and occasionally in some endo's or pediatric doctors or physical therapy rehab offices.
Best
Jim
ElliotV
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Yea, it's kind of like what we use at the wound clinic that I was referring to. I did check with the buyer in which the kit I was referring to is specifically ordered for our center and others alike due to reconstitution with sterile water instead of the diluent (which I didn't know about since I've only seen it with the water) to prevent reactions to the diluent.
Just fair warning, I'm going to keep you on your toes as I hope you will with me.
El <3
Just fair warning, I'm going to keep you on your toes as I hope you will with me.
El <3
Good to know but admittedly I can't dance like you, no doubt!
FYI
The solvent for rHGH is sterile water in almost all instances, (I'm aware of very few companies which use normal saline) BUT the primary difference between GH and AAS duly tents is the concentration of Benzyl Alcohol. In AAS it may be as high as 3%, for higher milligram concentrates, but usually is between 1-2%.
Now rGH is different since it's a 191 globular amino acid polypeptide and is readily hydrolysed even in water and even more so when exposed to a short chain alcohols such as BA.
(This is quite different from the sterol's produced inside or outside, lol, the human body. That is the three ring polycyclic "steroid" compound is relatively resistant to catabolic processes which is the reason their shelf life is months to years)
Consequently when GH is purchased and mixed with dilutent two options exist, use it or lose it, since it denatures (uncoils the amide linkages which REALLY screws up it's efficacy) in a precipitous fashion after roughly 4 weeks.
FYI
The solvent for rHGH is sterile water in almost all instances, (I'm aware of very few companies which use normal saline) BUT the primary difference between GH and AAS duly tents is the concentration of Benzyl Alcohol. In AAS it may be as high as 3%, for higher milligram concentrates, but usually is between 1-2%.
Now rGH is different since it's a 191 globular amino acid polypeptide and is readily hydrolysed even in water and even more so when exposed to a short chain alcohols such as BA.
(This is quite different from the sterol's produced inside or outside, lol, the human body. That is the three ring polycyclic "steroid" compound is relatively resistant to catabolic processes which is the reason their shelf life is months to years)
Consequently when GH is purchased and mixed with dilutent two options exist, use it or lose it, since it denatures (uncoils the amide linkages which REALLY screws up it's efficacy) in a precipitous fashion after roughly 4 weeks.
Stretch
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WHAT?!?!?! What am I hearing, Stretch?! Are you actually accusing someone of being a rep without proof? Where's the evidence? Where's the double-blind placebo-controlled study? Where's the statistical analysis?
I can't believe what I'm hearing. It must be someone impersonating Stretch.
This is very troubling. Very troubling, indeed
I can't understand you with Jim tickling your tonsils...
Your like his damn mother...
Go back a page or two...do some research...and you'll find the first accusation I made, it had a little more detail. Big mouth.
Wanna call me a liar, sobeit. Just point to any other time I made a false claim. Just one will do. I've been around for a minute.
Stretch
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No you don't. And telling me that I don't understand the generic side of chinese GH is laughable considering the last few months of my life. I have PMs from my friends just rolling over that comment. I might not understand the vernacular and the tests, but I am not a complete idiot. I don't trust ANYONE who is unworthy of it you fool. I've been locked up, those of us who have don't come out as trusting people. You just get off on blasting people and sources because it makes you feel above them. I don't have this handicap which allows for logic to dominate my thought process...give it shot...its not so bad.
Kind of like when you said I would "without a doubt" run SF into the ground. How stupid does that statement sound now?
Or how about when you claimed that I wasnt myself?? You said I was incapable of the type of conflict resolution displayed by the SF rep. Geez that was a funny one too...your ignorance is surpassed only by your arrogance. At least I know, and can admit when I am ignorant of something...put the shovel down and stop digging, you were actually credible 3 months ago when I came back from hiatus...sorry about that
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Post what I said Stretch! I said YOU would run SF into the ground if YOU stayed there! Why because you marveled at the opportunity to argue with anyone, to prove your worthy of what, I don't know!
Is your self esteem that low that your still sore about SF?
Who gives a shit Stretch?
Did SF define you?
You told Mands earlier you don't argue with people more knowledgable than yourself, than why do you insist on doing that very thing with me?
Are you more interested in diminishing my credibility rather than improving yours?
Oh there's that SF thing knawing at your innards right?
So you seek retribution and vengeance right?
Get over it and move on, or continue to distort and diminish what you COULD contribute to this forum, your knowledge of BB and or LIFTING
JIM
Is your self esteem that low that your still sore about SF?
Who gives a shit Stretch?
Did SF define you?
You told Mands earlier you don't argue with people more knowledgable than yourself, than why do you insist on doing that very thing with me?
Are you more interested in diminishing my credibility rather than improving yours?
Oh there's that SF thing knawing at your innards right?
So you seek retribution and vengeance right?
Get over it and move on, or continue to distort and diminish what you COULD contribute to this forum, your knowledge of BB and or LIFTING
JIM
Stretch, nobody called you a liar. I pointed out an inconsistancy in your post. Big fucking deal, it's not like we're in the business of saving lives here. It's just online chit-chat about AAS. It's certainly not worth getting your panties in a bunch.
You gotta learn to relax, dude. Have a smoke, catch your wind.
Stretch
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Stretch, nobody called you a liar. I pointed out an inconsistancy in your post. Big fucking deal, it's not like we're in the business of saving lives here. It's just online chit-chat about AAS. It's certainly not worth getting your panties in a bunch.
You gotta learn to relax, dude. Have a smoke, catch your wind.
Fuck man. I was so embarrassed at the way I lashed out I couldn't even bring myself to bring it up and apologize. Like I was hoping you wouldn't notice. I like your posts, but I do believe you have a tendency to be jims bodyguard. Doesn't mean I should flip out and make an ass of myself tho.
I just figured since you know my rep regarding accusations so well, you could have asked what evidence I was basing it off, rather than assuming I had none. It was somewhat presumptuous on my part, but I think I've earned that modicum of respect given my balanced approach.
In hindsight I see you were probably half joking.
Superman4hire
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I have read through the thread, and there are definitely some character opinions. So what the hell, I’ll throw my opinions in the mix.
I am very happy to have Jim’s knowledge on this board. Despite conjecture, he has a lot of education and experience to offer, and he offers it freely. I do not believe he is a rep. As well, I am also grateful for his help to weed out dishonest or disreputable sources (i.e., source blasting). As Jim has mentioned previously, and I agree, there are a lot of disreputable suppliers that try to infiltrate meso.
I am very happy to have Stretch on this board. Despite conjecture, I think he has considerable underground knowledge, BB, training, diet, to name a few. Moreover, I see him helping the community with this knowledge, and taking action/accountability for SF issues even after the fact (i.e., acting with integrity) Furthermore, Stretch is correct IMO, he does admit when he is not familiar with something.
El, very happy you are here too. You definitely bring strong components of knowledge to this board, and it’s much appreciated.
I understand, and can appreciate that obviously not everyone will agree with my opinions, but for those members that do appreciate my thoughts…. And another perspective… now you have it.
I am very happy to have Jim’s knowledge on this board. Despite conjecture, he has a lot of education and experience to offer, and he offers it freely. I do not believe he is a rep. As well, I am also grateful for his help to weed out dishonest or disreputable sources (i.e., source blasting). As Jim has mentioned previously, and I agree, there are a lot of disreputable suppliers that try to infiltrate meso.
I am very happy to have Stretch on this board. Despite conjecture, I think he has considerable underground knowledge, BB, training, diet, to name a few. Moreover, I see him helping the community with this knowledge, and taking action/accountability for SF issues even after the fact (i.e., acting with integrity) Furthermore, Stretch is correct IMO, he does admit when he is not familiar with something.
El, very happy you are here too. You definitely bring strong components of knowledge to this board, and it’s much appreciated.
I understand, and can appreciate that obviously not everyone will agree with my opinions, but for those members that do appreciate my thoughts…. And another perspective… now you have it.
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Stretch
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Yeah, I'm sure everyone would agree SF is much better off without me
, that IS what you're insinuating correct?Jim. We went at it. We loathed eachother. You followed me around attempting to disparge any post I made for months when I was the REP. I warned you I wouldn't be the REP forever, and when this day came, I would make you regret the way you acted.
Notice, I don't argue with you about biology.
or when the best time to take my Centrum silver is[)]
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