BR1217
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That's a very detailed, informative post. Thank you for that! Is this how you communicate In real life? I am thinking it is. Please give us more insight into this statement.
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That's a very detailed, informative post. Thank you for that! Is this how you communicate In real life? I am thinking it is. Please give us more insight into this statement.
Yea I think he's referring to the food he ate "was shit" or perhaps wanting to discuss Marilyn Monroe be "a fake" (correct her real name was Norma Rae)!
radcon
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Really Jim? And this is why Dan posted this?
You are apparently struggling to understand the difference between facts and opinions today...and there is a BIG difference. I know it sucks to be wrong but it happens to the best of us.
But do tell what you believe this forum is "all about" after your 164 POSTS!!
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I guess when you're short on facts, trivial character assassination is always in order. We all know post count only tells a small part of the story. I am more quick to listen, learn and read than rack up my post count.
I am not declaring ALL of the various things the forum is ABOUT, merely saying that one that I've seen mentioned more than once by veterans, is the notion of being skeptical of sources. I'm certain this was heavily discussed in the recent Biologic events. I'm fairly certain I could dig up posts from you regarding this. It was a major theme in Millard's recent post on utilizing multiple user names on the board. I don't think I really need to cite my sources on this as we all know that I am not wrong here.
If I am wrong on this specific notion(since I do have a fairly low post count), let the vets and those who you think have a high enough post count come and set me straight.
Dan_GETM
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I agree that 30 days is unacceptable, these insane delays, losts and seizes started in November all the way till the end of the year, we have lost a lot.Believe me LOT.
Thats why I ve posted in the mid December this :
(I would like to apologlize to all customers waiting long for thier orders in behalf of your country custumes and post offices.
Please take in notice that its holiday season time and in takes more time than normally.
If you have any questiones please pass it to me by PMing me.)
Now, some customers recieved thier orders after six weeks! to those we promised 30% discount, some customers havent recieved thie orders at all like cgreen, we have reshipped it and added free products.
If thiers anyone else who is still havent recieved his order from November and December please send me an email or PM me.
Now to the good news, We have sent about 35 parcels in January and all arrived within week or maximum of 12 days!
We also gurantee if the parcel get seized ( we have 95% delivery succes to the states) that we will reship the complete order for free and add free products.
If you guys have any suggestions how could I make our customers more satisfide, I ll be glad to learn more.
The one I am aware of and still trying is to response quicker, I ll try harder.
Best regards Daniel
If I misunderstood anything it's because of your incomplete initial post. That's fact number ONE.
Fact number TWO, no UGL owes you anything more than what was ordered, especially because of UNFORESEEN delays, (which are particularly common during the holiday season).
FACT number THREE highlight any post of mine where I have done anything BUT encourage UGL complaints on Meso.
(There is ONE PROVISO the involved lab is to contacted first and given a "reasonable" amount of time to respond)
Fact number FOUR, there are many "bros", noobs or clowns visiting Meso whom are more than willing to take advantage someone else's generosity (Dan's in this instance) and file "complaints" as a means to an ends, acquiring "freebies"!
Consequently Meso should not be misconstrued as a sounding board for personal vendetta, individual unsubstantiated complaints or non-verifiable "gotchas", lest you (generic) be slammed for not providing PROOF.
You reference Bio! Sure thing that "UGL" has unequivocally been confirmed as a scamming site along with some dirt ball called Stretch who instigated the entire scheme!
Perhaps you would be well served reading the entire BioLogic's thread, for a representative example of what Meso is "all about" (with regard to UGLs).
(And how hard some worked eliminating a stench most consistent with raw sewage)
Jim
Fact number TWO, no UGL owes you anything more than what was ordered, especially because of UNFORESEEN delays, (which are particularly common during the holiday season).
FACT number THREE highlight any post of mine where I have done anything BUT encourage UGL complaints on Meso.
(There is ONE PROVISO the involved lab is to contacted first and given a "reasonable" amount of time to respond)
Fact number FOUR, there are many "bros", noobs or clowns visiting Meso whom are more than willing to take advantage someone else's generosity (Dan's in this instance) and file "complaints" as a means to an ends, acquiring "freebies"!
Consequently Meso should not be misconstrued as a sounding board for personal vendetta, individual unsubstantiated complaints or non-verifiable "gotchas", lest you (generic) be slammed for not providing PROOF.
You reference Bio! Sure thing that "UGL" has unequivocally been confirmed as a scamming site along with some dirt ball called Stretch who instigated the entire scheme!
Perhaps you would be well served reading the entire BioLogic's thread, for a representative example of what Meso is "all about" (with regard to UGLs).
(And how hard some worked eliminating a stench most consistent with raw sewage)
Jim
radcon
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I suppose we could keep going round and round on this. Fact is, I'm not really disagreeing with either you or biggerben. Continuing on this theme of facts.
Fact 1 - my post didn't clearly lay out all the details of the transaction. It wasn't fully my purpose to do so. I was just trying to give a positive review of GETM. I wasn't expecting to get "jumped on" for doing so, not that I don't understand the sentiments of the response. It just happens that if you and biggerben knew the full situation, I don't think you would have responded the same.
Fact 2 - I agree. I didn't push for this at all. GETM did this of their own accord and Dan validated my point on this as being perhaps somewhat of a unique situation regarding the time table and such.
Fact 3 - Again, I agree. That's why I said I'm sure I could find quotes of you doing this.
Regarding your PROVISO - This is exactly what I did. You will see no complaints on this open thread from me. My communication with GETM was all private.
Fact 4 - Again, no disagreement here. This isn't what I did. Again validated by Dan coming on and chiming in on this situation.
Regarding Bio's thread - I've read the majority of that thread, including recent events.
I guess my point being that you and biggerben misjudged this particular situation and you're preaching to the choir at least as it relates to myself.
The reason yours and ben's sentiments seemed strange to me is that I thought this forum was more about protecting it's members from sources (correct me if I'm wrong) as opposed the other way around. Neither of you contacted me prior to your comments, and as respected members of the forum, seemed to create an environment making people hesitant to share their experiences with this lab.
Hopefully none of this reads negatively toward GETM. I have received everything I ordered and would be happy to order from them in the future.
Fact 1 - my post didn't clearly lay out all the details of the transaction. It wasn't fully my purpose to do so. I was just trying to give a positive review of GETM. I wasn't expecting to get "jumped on" for doing so, not that I don't understand the sentiments of the response. It just happens that if you and biggerben knew the full situation, I don't think you would have responded the same.
Fact 2 - I agree. I didn't push for this at all. GETM did this of their own accord and Dan validated my point on this as being perhaps somewhat of a unique situation regarding the time table and such.
Fact 3 - Again, I agree. That's why I said I'm sure I could find quotes of you doing this.
Regarding your PROVISO - This is exactly what I did. You will see no complaints on this open thread from me. My communication with GETM was all private.
Fact 4 - Again, no disagreement here. This isn't what I did. Again validated by Dan coming on and chiming in on this situation.
Regarding Bio's thread - I've read the majority of that thread, including recent events.
I guess my point being that you and biggerben misjudged this particular situation and you're preaching to the choir at least as it relates to myself.
The reason yours and ben's sentiments seemed strange to me is that I thought this forum was more about protecting it's members from sources (correct me if I'm wrong) as opposed the other way around. Neither of you contacted me prior to your comments, and as respected members of the forum, seemed to create an environment making people hesitant to share their experiences with this lab.
Hopefully none of this reads negatively toward GETM. I have received everything I ordered and would be happy to order from them in the future.
This should never be forgotten.
I don't give a hoot about any UGL (probably because I have NO VESTED INTEREST or am I in ANY WAY ASSOCIATED with an UGL, PERIOD) and the members have ALWAYS been my primary reason I'm here.
Your PERCEPTION that I or BB have discouraged legitimate concerns, complaints on behalf of Meso membership is absolutely bogus and NOT AT ALL SUPPORTED in my statements..
However if you believe prancing onto Meso to voice unsubstantiated claims of malfeasance with ANY UGL will go unchallenged, your wrong! (And I promise it won't only be BB and myself inquiring about "proof")
Why? Because like many comments logged by some participants on AAS forums their posts are not even worth "skimming". That is of course, unless a bonified effort is made on their behalf towards confirming (or refuting) their concerns.
To do otherwise relegates Meso to some lame gossip AAS forum where those involved "vent" their mishaps and believe culpability lies solely in the lap the UGL (and propagates opinion as factual)
No, (I we) want the TRUTH fella, not yours or someone's else's perception of it. Ergo if you contend I've discouraged others from making CLAIMS of IMPROPRIETY without evidence to support them, yep your on spot.
However this mindset to identical to those other issues discussed on Meso, including areas such as; PEDs, AAS, PCT etc where myself, Dr Scally and many others provide proof to support our opinions and that position won't change, because this is what makes MESO oh so DIFFERENT, IMO!
Jim
Your PERCEPTION that I or BB have discouraged legitimate concerns, complaints on behalf of Meso membership is absolutely bogus and NOT AT ALL SUPPORTED in my statements..
However if you believe prancing onto Meso to voice unsubstantiated claims of malfeasance with ANY UGL will go unchallenged, your wrong! (And I promise it won't only be BB and myself inquiring about "proof")
Why? Because like many comments logged by some participants on AAS forums their posts are not even worth "skimming". That is of course, unless a bonified effort is made on their behalf towards confirming (or refuting) their concerns.
To do otherwise relegates Meso to some lame gossip AAS forum where those involved "vent" their mishaps and believe culpability lies solely in the lap the UGL (and propagates opinion as factual)
No, (I we) want the TRUTH fella, not yours or someone's else's perception of it. Ergo if you contend I've discouraged others from making CLAIMS of IMPROPRIETY without evidence to support them, yep your on spot.
However this mindset to identical to those other issues discussed on Meso, including areas such as; PEDs, AAS, PCT etc where myself, Dr Scally and many others provide proof to support our opinions and that position won't change, because this is what makes MESO oh so DIFFERENT, IMO!
Jim
perception? if you are interested in TRUTH and FACT how about this...
radcon posts his concerns, you say they are bogus. getm responds, says they are legitimate. to me that means radcons concerns are legit and substantiated
radcon says youre wrong. getm says your wrong. since they are only persos involved in transaction and they agree then that means they are right you are wrong.
i am personally happy with getm customer service but your hostility and overreaction here is just weird
No I'm not "wrong" because I didn't miss the post where GETM admitted they "messed up".
However you obviously missed RADCONS post where he accused Myself and BB of discouraging other Meso members from posting negative comments about GETM or any other.lab.
I find your oversight not only convenient but "weird"!
However you obviously missed RADCONS post where he accused Myself and BB of discouraging other Meso members from posting negative comments about GETM or any other.lab.
I find your oversight not only convenient but "weird"!
radcon
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Exactly. This sums things up very well.
Hey Raddi did you ever locate those posts of mine, NOT, EXACTLY!
radcon
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I didn't know I needed to. I said that I thought I could find posts from you where you exercised skepticism about labs. I furthermore thought your quote above was in agreement of that.
Where is the disagreement here?
The disagreement lol, is called evidence.
Any Bozo can "complain" but only those whom are committed to dismembering a illegitimate source will provide EVIDENCE which substantiates their claim, and enables the entire forum and it's members.
The rest with few exceptions use forums like Meso as their sounding board, much like clergy, psychiatrists or their pet dog, and want others to do all the leg work.
Ultimately however their primary objective is the acquisition of another "source".
After all they certainly don't "have the time", to be bothered with some time consuming discovery process.
Ironically they are invariably the FIRST to complain when things go awry.
Those "members" have no damn idea what Meso is about because the only thing they are interested in "is getting mine" and yep their "complaints" often fall on deaf or defiant ears as it SHOULD BE!
The degree of a members commitment to the purpose of Meso (IMO) is readily determined by how long and how often someone participates, rather than how long it takes for them to acquire a "source".
We shall see how long you and Tongueman hang out.
Jim
Any Bozo can "complain" but only those whom are committed to dismembering a illegitimate source will provide EVIDENCE which substantiates their claim, and enables the entire forum and it's members.
The rest with few exceptions use forums like Meso as their sounding board, much like clergy, psychiatrists or their pet dog, and want others to do all the leg work.
Ultimately however their primary objective is the acquisition of another "source".
After all they certainly don't "have the time", to be bothered with some time consuming discovery process.
Ironically they are invariably the FIRST to complain when things go awry.
Those "members" have no damn idea what Meso is about because the only thing they are interested in "is getting mine" and yep their "complaints" often fall on deaf or defiant ears as it SHOULD BE!
The degree of a members commitment to the purpose of Meso (IMO) is readily determined by how long and how often someone participates, rather than how long it takes for them to acquire a "source".
We shall see how long you and Tongueman hang out.
Jim
radcon
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Uhh, not sure what's up with you Jim but you're seriously not making any sense. Everything has been clearly laid out here and yet you still don't seem to understand situation.
Who are you even talking to? And about what? (Rhetorical).
All I can do is make assumptions as to what you mean, as your grammar in this post makes it almost indecipherable.
Your posts regarding this topic on this thread have been an increasing non sequitur rant, especially this one.
Who are you even talking to? And about what? (Rhetorical).
All I can do is make assumptions as to what you mean, as your grammar in this post makes it almost indecipherable.
Your posts regarding this topic on this thread have been an increasing non sequitur rant, especially this one.
Oh well I suppose I should have expected that lame excuse.
So now that you and Tongueman have located a source when you departing Meso? After all it's served it's purpose and mission right.
People like you believe others owe you something (for nothing). You take and give nothing back in return!
Looking back shit, it's no wonder your initial intentions were challenged by myself and BB.
Enjoy finding a circus that fits your needs clown!
So now that you and Tongueman have located a source when you departing Meso? After all it's served it's purpose and mission right.
People like you believe others owe you something (for nothing). You take and give nothing back in return!
Looking back shit, it's no wonder your initial intentions were challenged by myself and BB.
Enjoy finding a circus that fits your needs clown!
happy that this is open thread for everyone to read and make up own mind
Feeling good. first week of getm test prop, mast enan, tren a 
Mckenna2006
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David/Dan are the best around!
