"Generic" GH ASSAYS

And I often wonder how much more effective a "community" Meso would be if everyone was as passionate!

And to that end I'll give PX credit bc at least he's willing to try, while some are just fine with a spoon in their mouths.
I'm just happy there are educated people to go back and forth about the subject matter. I for one have a hard time understanding some of what is going on here and learn more by reading your convo w PX. I applaud you both.

Edit, as well as M96, mands etc. Thanks
 
Here is buck's data:

Came off a AAS cycle on 7/21/16
Started HGH about 16 days later and am now on HGH 4 weeks.
I will run a few more weeks to see if things have peaked.
Then I am going to test the Soma's again for a few weeks and then add Karls IGF-1 Lr3 to try and answer the question if this raises IGF-1 levels. There are very strong opinions on both sides.

My Protocol 1/3 (.333 IU'S) Vial P/D (xcept where noted)
IGF-1 Range for me is 61-200ng/mL

TP Rip's Serum
5/02/15
26.3 @ 2:38
04/03/15 - IGF-1 - 335ng/mL - 10 days on - Range 61-200ng/mL
04/10/15 - IGF-1 - 326ng/mL
04/17/15 - IGF-1 - 343ng/mL
04/24/15 - IGF-1 - 310ng/mL

On the 25th I added
2 - MGS. - CJC1295 W/Dac P/D
200 - MCGS. GHRP 6 3 X P/D
50 - MGS. MK - 677 25 A.M. &http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.synthetek.com%2Fproducts%2Fsynthelator-vasodilator%2F; P.M.
this is 1st week With the PEPS
05/01/15 - IGF-1 - 460ng/mL week 1
05/08/15 - IGF-1 - 448ng/mL 2
05/15/15 - IGF-1 - 464ng/mL 3

TP Greys 1 Week on 3.33 IU's P/D
05/16/15 HGH Serum tested
2:33 - 15.0ng/mL
05/22/15 - IGF-1 - 293ng/mL week 1
05/28/15 - IGF-1 - 289ng/mL week 2

Geno's HGH Serum tested 05/23/15
32.4ng/mL. @ - 2:32
06/04/15 - IGF-1 - 271ng/mL week 1
Serum Tested 10/30/15
23.2 @ 2:23
22.7 @ 2:40
21.7 @ 2:58
11/06/15 - IGF-1 - 349ng/mL

Rooskie Reds
Baseline was 110
Serumed 21.9 @ 2:42 On 09/19/15
09/25/15 - IGF-1 - 281ng/mL - 1 Week on *This was just 3 weeks off AAS cycle and Liver enzymes were still slightly outside of range AST 39 ALT 65 on 9/18 but in range 9/25.
10/09/15 - IGF-1 - 319ng/mL - 1 Week on
10/23/15 - IGF-1 - 381ng/mL - 1 Week on

HGH Man Super Green Tops
BL. 110
Serumed 23.8 @ 2:28 On 09/28/15
10/02/15 - IGF-1 - 314ng/mL - 1 week on
10/16/15 - IGF-1 - 339ng/mL - 1 week on

Med Tech Jintropins
Serumed 22.5 on 10/09/15 @ 2;22
10/30/15 - IGF-1 - 309ng/mL - 1 week on

Sciroxx Soma's

11/13/15 - IGF-1 - 259ng/mL - 1 week on

6 Fingers White Russians
Serumed 18.6 on 11/14/15 @ 2:15 &http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.synthetek.com%2Fproducts%2Fsynthelator-vasodilator%2F; 17.9 on 11/20/15 @ 2:39
11/20/15 - *487ng/mL* - 1 Week on *1 vial P/D (3.33Mgs.)
11/27/15 - *821ng/mL* - 1 Week on *3 Vials P/D
12/05/15 - 230ng/mL - 1 Week off all HGH (xagerated test to see how long IGF-1 scores are influenced by dose of HGH)
1/9/16 - 164ng/mL - 6 days off HGH (lookin for baseline)
1/15/16 - 159ng.mL - 11 days off HGH (baseline)
1/20/16 - 122ng/mL - 1 Hour 39 mins. Post 10 IU Inject (test to see how soon after a HGH injection IGF-1 levels elevate, it was speculated this could be used in place of the simple HGH Serum test)
1/30/16 - 299ng/mL 10 days on 5iu's P/D
2/5/16 - 302ng/mL on 16 days 5iu's P/D + Started AAS 1/30/16 -Tren A, Mast P, NPP.




- Generic HGH -
2/12/16 - 240ng/mL on 23 days 5iu's P/D + Started AAS 1/30/16 -Tren A, Mast P, NPP.
2/19/16 - 209ng/mL on HGH 30 Days 5iu's P/D
2/26/16 - 192ng/mL on HGH 37 Days 5iu's
3/5/16 - 189ng/mL on HGH 45 Days 5iu's
3/11/16 - 186ng/mL on HGH 52 Days 5iu's P/D
3/18/16 - 132ng/mL on HGH 58 days 5iu's P/D
3/25/16 - 124ng/mL on HGH 65 days 4iu's P/D
4/1/16 - 143ng/mL on HGH 72 days 4iu's P/D
4/8/16 - 97ng/mL off HGH and T-3 &http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.synthetek.com%2Fproducts%2Fsynthelator-vasodilator%2F; 4 - 4/1/16

8/5/16 - 98ng/mL (Baseline, 16 days off AAS)
8/12/16 - 219ng/mL 7 days on 4iu's P/D
8/20/16 - 235ng/mL 14 days on 4iu's P/D
8/26/16 - 331ng/mL 21 days on 1 week on 5iu's P/D
9/2/16 - 293ng/mL 28 days on HGH 2 weeks On 5iu's P/D
 
Here is RP's data:

Here is what we have so far:

Lilly Humatrope - Anaconda........IGF-1 Baseline was 124ng/ml
12/02/14 - HGH Serum - 25.7ng/ml
12/09/14 wk 1- IGF-1 Test - 273ng/ml Range 54 - 194ng/ml
12/16/14 wk 2- IGF-1 Test - 287ng/ml
12/26/14 wk 3- IGF-1 Test - 234ng/ml
01/03/15 wk 4- IGF-1 Test - 228ng/ml




Western Biotech - Sciroxx..........IGF-1 Baseline was 112ng/ml
01/06/15 - HGH Serum - 30.5ng/ml
01/13/15 wk 1- IGF-1 Test - 216ng/ml Range 54 - 194ng/ml
01/20/15 wk 2- IGF-1 Test - 256ng/ml
01/28/15 wk 3- IGF-1 Test - 209ng/ml
02/04/15 wk 4- IGF-1 Test - 217ng/ml




MK-677-DAC-GHRP-6 - Progen http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fspartanperformances.com%2F
02/16/15 Baseline - 153ng/ml
02/25/15 Week 1 - 210ng/ml
03/04/15 Week 2 - 197ng/ml
03/11/15 Week 3 - 234ng/ml
03/18/15 Week 4 - ----ng/ml




HGHMan - Green Tops..........IGF-1 Baseline No Base Line Taken
06/10/15 - HGH Serum - 29.2ng/ml
07/01/15 wk 1 - IGF-1 Test - 303ng/ml Range 54 - 194ng/ml
07/08/15 wk 2- IGF-1 Test - 316ng/ml
07/21/15 wk 4- IGF-1 Test - 325ng/ml
07/28/15 wk 5- IGF-1 Test - 331ng/ml




TP's Black Tops.......No Baseline
10/02/15 - HGH Serum - 25.2ng/ml
10/20/15 - week 1 - IGF-1 Test - 352ng/ml Serum Level 25.2ng/ml
10/27/15 - week 2 - IGF-1 Test - 232ng/ml
11/02/15 - week 3 - IGF-1 Test - 233ng/ml Serum Level 25.9ng/ml
11/10/15 - week 4 - IGF-1 Test - 279ng/ml




TP's New Black Tops (Design)....No Baseline
11/25/15 - HGH Serum - 30.7ng/ml
12/01/15 - week 1 - IGF-1 Test - Not Completed
12/07/15 - week 2 - IGF-1 Test - 306ng/ml
12/14/15 - week 3 - IGF-1 Test - 334ng/ml
 
Hi, I am new to this forum. I've ordered hgh in the past from epharmacu***.com and while the hgh (euorotropin) had some effect, I am not able to gauge how its impact to a legit brand name. So, I am looking for some advice on how should I go about finding a legit source?
 
Hi, I am new to this forum. I've ordered hgh in the past from epharmacu***.com and while the hgh (euorotropin) had some effect, I am not able to gauge how its impact to a legit brand name. So, I am looking for some advice on how should I go about finding a legit source?

Please go away. You're hurting my brain....
 
Hi, I am new to this forum. I've ordered hgh in the past from epharmacu***.com and while the hgh (euorotropin) had some effect, I am not able to gauge how its impact to a legit brand name. So, I am looking for some advice on how should I go about finding a legit source?

You should start researching in the human growth hormone section here. Several threads on various brands. Or you could go ahead and read this thread from the beginning instead of jumping to the end and asking us to give you a source. SMH[emoji53]
 
Hi, I am new to this forum. I've ordered hgh in the past from epharmacu***.com and while the hgh (euorotropin) had some effect, I am not able to gauge how its impact to a legit brand name. So, I am looking for some advice on how should I go about finding a legit source?

Catch aids. Then you'll get it thru insurance.
 
My IGF1 after 10days will be in the 400s at 4-5ius (apprx)

It's will not be in the 600s+ in 4-6 weeks....it does not continue to "build up nor does it take 4-6 weeks to reach full "saturation" "peak" "full IGF1 elevation"


Another study of ONE, some never learn. It was my oversight not to cite legitimate therapeutic data for Meso members to use as a reference, from the outset.

And you opine Bio-avaiablitly and Bio-equivalence studies dont require more than a single DOSE of GH, OMG you havent the fainest idea what youre talking about bc there are MANY different types of B-A and B-E studies required before GH is ever approved.
 
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my apologies for seeking out some guidance.
Follow MR. B66 advice. Then ask questions. You should introduce yourself here:
New Member Introduction

Don't listen to these other dipshits. We like Newbies here at MESO as long as they aren't pushing product. MESO is here for all of us to learn, teach and explore. Have fun.
 
Say hello in the new member section :)

I will ,brother.
It's just that I'm going thru some personal stuff right now and I have to find the time to write a detailed bio like I would want to post (writing doesn't come naturally to me either, LOL). Add to the personal stuff the thought that I might have spent over a grand on bunk/underdosed stuff is stressing me out (Not been on long enough to get my own bloods drawn)
 
I will ,brother.
It's just that I'm going thru some personal stuff right now and I have to find the time to write a detailed bio like I would want to post (writing doesn't come naturally to me either, LOL). Add to the personal stuff the thought that I might have spent over a grand on bunk/underdosed stuff is stressing me out (Not been on long enough to get my own bloods drawn)
PD and TP sell the same Grey's. good luck with your personal stuff. Read, read and read some more and you most likely won't buy bunk stuff. Hope yours turns out ok...
 
Dicky, was this PD's or TP's greytop?

I don't know, I had blood work credit from a reseller on another discussion website which I used to get a kit for cheap. That kit was NOT part of the kits I purchased directly from TP, however, the two vials I contributed to this testing (each from different kits) are ones that I've received direct from TP (international -> USA).

Each week, I'm going to be ramping up +1 additional IU per day until I get to 10 IU (just finished the week for 5 IU ED) and I just finished the non-TP kit this morning so probably bloods in ~1 month.
 
I will ,brother.
It's just that I'm going thru some personal stuff right now and I have to find the time to write a detailed bio like I would want to post (writing doesn't come naturally to me either, LOL). Add to the personal stuff the thought that I might have spent over a grand on bunk/underdosed stuff is stressing me out (Not been on long enough to get my own bloods drawn)

I feel you on the writing not coming naturally. Everything sounds great in my head, but put it to keyboard and it reads like incoherent gibberish.
Anyway stick around and do lots of reading and research and you will find what you need, just dont ask for a handout, that NEVER goes well.
Good luck[emoji4]
 
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