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FFS. Publicly expose member usernames who do bad shit. Is that easier to understand? How is that for recourse?!

It's not incompatible with the prohibition against posting personally identifiable information.
Have you been following this thread? @GiantZeus.com said he would post member usernames upon request from you. The only member exposed so far is @Flounder. @GiantZeus.com said there were others. They need to be exposed. I feel it's fucking pointless but it's a start. If there is no recourse it shows that it is ok to do this shit
 
I agree public exposure is recourse. Are the other parties involved going to be exposed?
...If someone with evidence wants to expose them.

A member having the freedom to publicly expose wrongdoing on this forum and actually choosing to do it are two different thing. Be careful not to confuse the two.
 
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In december I was in the horsepital. I fucked my neck up and needed surgery. @CdnGuy were talking on the phone and texting and we both noticed as soon as giant Zeus came on the scene, mkultra hit him up. After one post mmultra immediately took the convo to PM. CDN and I both noticed it. We both were injured and had time on our hands. We decided to expose mkultra. Next day he posted in another ugl section he received his gear but it's for his "friends"
I brought this to Zeus attn. I know for certain MK was one of these people hitting him up. If you read Zeus' response he clearly stated that he was just about to send MK his free gear and that MK should be exposed. Zeus also stated CDN is a good guy;)
 
@GiantZeus.com now is your chance to come clean with all parties. He stated that upon request from an administrator he would give usernames of other parties involved

No one should ever cite me as an excuse to withhold evidence of wrongdoing. My permission is not required.

The only excuse should me the lack of evidence to support wrongdoing or the lack of any real wrongdoing in the first place.
 
Have you been following this thread? @GiantZeus.com said he would post member usernames upon request from you. The only member exposed so far is @Flounder. @GiantZeus.com said there were others. They need to be exposed. I feel it's fucking pointless but it's a start. If there is no recourse it shows that it is ok to do this shit

From GiantZeus' perspective, what's the cost/benefit of him exposing more names? There's the cost of more pissed off (exposed users) writing false/negative reviews of his products on other forums, hurting his sales. And is this countered by any benefit of Meso members purchasing more of his products? Looks doubtful so far from the posts here, he's relatively new and most people here aren't ordering yet....but are demanding him to "come clean" by giving up more names which will undoubtedly hurt his business.

It's totally his decision and unless you and others are willing to replace his otherwise lost sales I don't think it's fair to keep demanding that he release more names. He did one to show that a problem exists and to make an example so others don't harass him similarly.
 
From GiantZeus' perspective, what's the cost/benefit of him exposing more names? There's the cost of more pissed off (exposed users) writing false/negative reviews of his products on other forums, hurting his sales. And is this countered by any benefit of Meso members purchasing more of his products? Looks doubtful so far from the posts here, he's relatively new and most people here aren't ordering yet....but are demanding him to "come clean" by giving up more names which will undoubtedly hurt his business.

It's totally his decision and unless you and others are willing to replace his otherwise lost sales I don't think it's fair to keep demanding that he release more names. He did one to show that a problem exists and to make an example so others don't harass him similarly.

If he exposes them, then they won't have much credibility if they tried to complain or leave ad review.... And if Millard bans them, well then I suppose that person would or could create a fake handle and complain, but then again, that complaint would probably have all eyes on it to see if it was in fact one of the people who were kicked for strong arming.
 
If he exposes them, then they won't have much credibility if they tried to complain or leave ad review.... And if Millard bans them, well then I suppose that person would or could create a fake handle and complain, but then again, that complaint would probably have all eyes on it to see if it was in fact one of the people who were kicked for strong arming.

I meant complaining on other forums besides Meso, with a different handles name than the one that got exposed here.

I'm in no way defending whoever these other guys are, I'm just looking at it from a business sense from the source's perspective, because some users here are using basically a bullying tone towards GiantZeus like he's obligated to expose all PM's for all to see, without considering what GZ interests might be. It's not like the guys demanding this are loyal customers of GZ. Playing devil's advocate here.
 
From GiantZeus' perspective, what's the cost/benefit of him exposing more names? There's the cost of more pissed off (exposed users) writing false/negative reviews of his products on other forums, hurting his sales. And is this countered by any benefit of Meso members purchasing more of his products? Looks doubtful so far from the posts here, he's relatively new and most people here aren't ordering yet....but are demanding him to "come clean" by giving up more names which will undoubtedly hurt his business.

It's totally his decision and unless you and others are willing to replace his otherwise lost sales I don't think it's fair to keep demanding that he release more names. He did one to show that a problem exists and to make an example so others don't harass him similarly.
Believe it or not him exposing these members has made me consider using him. It shows he has balls and won't take shit. I was looking at his products and his pharm grade hgh is a good price. I was waiting to see the outcome before I asked him or any others about his products
 
Believe it or not him exposing these members has made me consider using him. It shows he has balls and won't take shit. I was looking at his products and his pharm grade hgh is a good price. I was waiting to see the outcome before I asked him or any others about his products

If the benefit outweighs the cost from the source's perspective then I'm sure he'll release more names.

In the end whatever decision he has made or makes should be respected IMO, or if not it's just another example of users trying to strong arm him.
 
If the benefit outweighs the cost from the source's perspective then I'm sure he'll release more names.

In the end whatever decision he has made or makes should be respected IMO, or if not it's just another example of users trying to strong arm him.
Actually, asking for the names of red handed , reverse scammers, is not the same as falsely gang banging sources to extort gear. Definitely not Apples to Apples.
Transparency is one of meso's best contributions to the community.
Members involved in what these individuals were doing, undermines that.
When they falsely accuse a source for free gear , and then later on begin to lighten up, and even begin to smile on the same source. That gives off the feeling to other members, that evidently this source was able to weather the blast and is now proving their self as an excellent vendor.
That's what makes this so serious, because the members rely on this vetting process of sources, to keep them safe from scams.
But instead they're being scanned from within.

Mrhat
 
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