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Actually, asking for the names of red handed , reverse scammers, is not the same as falsely gang banging sources to extort gear. Definitely not Apples to Apples.
Transparency is one of meso's best contributions to the community.
Members involved in what these individuals were doing, undermines that.
When they falsely accuse a source for free gear , and then later on begin to lighten up, and even begin to smile on the same source. That gives off the feeling to other members, that evidently this source was able to weather the blast and is now proving their self as an excellent vendor.
That's what makes this so serious, because the members rely on this vetting process of sources, to keep them safe from scams.
But instead they're being scanned from within.

Mrhat

Nothing wrong with asking, but repeatedly demanding and expressing frustration is another form of bullying. What's in it for the source? He isn't getting many orders from here (based on the responses so far), but now you're making it sound like it's his moral obligation to expose more PM's You do realize there's a potential cost to him of exposing more people right? If he exposed more, great! But he didn't, that's his prerogative! I'm sure other sources here have also gotten PM'd requests like wildflower - why not post in their threads too and demand exposure?
 
That's what makes this so serious, because the members rely on this vetting process of sources, to keep them safe from scams.
But instead they're being scanned from within.

Mrhat

I'm sure it happens everywhere, when you order items from amazon or BB.com and read reviews, how do you know which are shills, fake accounts by the vendor, biased reviews, etc? You don't. Unfortunately not everything can be policed and you have to use some intuition.
 
Nothing wrong with asking, but repeatedly demanding and expressing frustration is another form of bullying. What's in it for the source? He isn't getting many orders from here (based on the responses so far), but now you're making it sound like it's his moral obligation to expose more PM's You do realize there's a potential cost to him of exposing more people right? If he exposed more, great! But he didn't, that's his prerogative! I'm sure other sources here have also gotten PM'd requests like wildflower - why not post in their threads too and demand exposure?
I don't see how it's costed him anything.
He was being hammered as a buffoon,( and whether that was all true or false, who knows) that's kind of become a mute argument at this point. Also the people he's lost, are the ones scamming for gear, not paying for it . At this point forward anybody that starts hammering again, will look suspect. And as for onlookers, they're wondering if any of the negative attacks were legit at this point.
And they may very well have been legit arguments , that's the whole point, this type of thinking muddys up everything.
As far as other sources besides GiantZeus, I'm sure they're rethinking their pay to play set up right about now. And one good benefit to this situation. Anyone trying to force a source, for free gear in exchange for soft treatment, will have a harder time getting by with it from here on out.

Mrhat
 
I don't see how it's costed him anything.

I didn't say it's costed him already but it could and likely would. I explained how in a previous post, it's not too hard to figure out especially when you consider there are more steroid forums besides Meso.
 
It looks like he would be in better shape if the names are released. The scammers will scurry off into the sunset.
The can of worms that was opened when he exposed, that he was being intentionally harassed to extort free gear, disappears. And because of the whole mess, now his thread has about 10x more eyes looking at it, then he could have ever imagine would have come out of this. I don't think it's hurting him to bad, considering his circumstances. But every one has there opinions.
 
You do realize there's a potential cost to him of exposing more people right? If he exposed more, great! But he didn't, that's his prerogative! I'm sure other sources here have also gotten PM'd requests like wildflower - why not post in their threads too and demand exposure?
I didn't say it's costed him already but it could and likely would. I explained how in a previous post, it's not too hard to figure out especially when you consider there are more steroid forums besides Meso.
It's essentially the business model of sourcing on internet forums. Sources seek willing participants who will help them promote sales in exchange for free gear. And a lot of people are motivated to sign up, post regularly and gain status and clout so that they can fill this role. As many of the negative posts as the positive posts are probably motivated by this type of behavior. Usually there is greater benefit for the source to play along than to expose it.
 
Everyone is encouraged to report any and all spammers, scammers and reverse scammers if they have strong evidence to support their allegations. But under no circumstances should they ever reveal personally identifiable information on the open forum. In addition, there is an expectation of privacy when it comes to sharing private messages and/or emails. Are there compelling reasons to violate this expectation?

We totally agree with that BUT we don't accept the bullying with free samples!

The only we exposed was a member and his personal message that didn't include any high risk information of him and i'm sure nobody will ever annoy us anymore for such things after that! For us the issue is closed!

We think now most of members understand how things work !
We do not work underground!

Any personal message or post on our topic about other things except for the GiantZeus.com online store will ignored.
 
This seems like a self serving move by a shakey source. He said he'd drop all the names which in my opinion would benefit the community. He drops one name which bebefits him by getting more traffic to his thread then its had since his initial beating. He proved early on he was shady with his false accusations @CdnGuy so this seems par for the course.

I'm not going to say I would order from him because I thought him suspect from jump and this click bait attemp doesn't help.
 
This seems like a self serving move by a shakey source. He said he'd drop all the names which in my opinion would benefit the community. He drops one name which bebefits him by getting more traffic to his thread then its had since his initial beating. He proved early on he was shady with his false accusations @CdnGuy so this seems par for the course.

I'm not going to say I would order from him because I thought him suspect from jump and this click bait attemp doesn't help.
:rolleyes: CT McPUMP likes again...
Fuckn weirdo...
 
Yeah, dude is such a fucking douche and just like Herpes...you can click ignore to hide his post(symptoms) but the fucker just keeps popping back up
 
Yeah, dude is such a fucking douche and just like Herpes...you can click ignore to hide his post(symptoms) but the fucker just keeps popping back up
He got NO BUSINESS at all in this section. He knows he's a freak and will say ignorant shit like "Haters gonna hate" nobody hates on him. People just hate him cuz he's a pedophile. He's definitely a retard too. He's got some sort malfunction in his brain where he identifies with children. He's all around a bad deal. I ignore too. Still sux seeing him like comments that got nothing to with him.
 
he annoys me more than 2d2p....seriously!!! The one person I wish would just go away and never come back to meso is him
 
We totally agree with that BUT we don't accept the bullying with free samples!

The only we exposed was a member and his personal message that didn't include any high risk information of him and i'm sure nobody will ever annoy us anymore for such things after that! For us the issue is closed!

We think now most of members understand how things work !
We do not work underground!

Any personal message or post on our topic about other things except for the GiantZeus.com online store will ignored.
You should not have brought up the others if you hadn't planned on exposing them. That does not look good at all. Bad move
 
You should not have brought up the others if you hadn't planned on exposing them. That does not look good at all. Bad move

He didn't have the intention, even though @giantzeus said multiple times if he had permission from mod he would. Probably not as many as he was making it out to be.....

Giantzeus word isn't any good around here and this just proves it. Crap lab who can't keep what he says he is gonna do! Would make me question ever ordering from this guy.
 
We totally agree with that BUT we don't accept the bullying with free samples!

The only we exposed was a member and his personal message that didn't include any high risk information of him and i'm sure nobody will ever annoy us anymore for such things after that! For us the issue is closed!

We think now most of members understand how things work !
We do not work underground!

Any personal message or post on our topic about other things except for the GiantZeus.com online store will ignored.
You not reporting the others to @Millard Baker as asked is only hurting the community, this board, and yourself. You are protecting other members who are trying to extort sources.

I will tell you again. I highly advise you to seek out Millard and converse with him.

mands
 
You not reporting the others to @Millard Baker as asked is only hurting the community, this board, and yourself. You are protecting other members who are trying to extort sources.

I will tell you again. I highly advise you to seek out Millard and converse with him.

mands
I think Zeus is feels like he's getting the best of both world right now.
He's gotten rid of the scammers, (for now) and he's created a lot of attention for himself.
What he isn't taking into consideration, is by not revealing the rest of the names, he has created suspicion and anxiety between members that are already suspicious of each other.
By creating such tension and never releasing the names, he is wearing out those that actually cares about the community, and when he does want two reach out for help (as he has done in the past) those that would normally care, will be worn out , from banging their heads against the wall.
The fact that he is leaving suspicion and contention between members, has already caused in-fighting. The frustration between members has his name attached to it, by association. And no one but Zeus him self can fix it.

Mrhat
 
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